Ha! I know I’ve been a bit of a stickler with this, and I was worried while downloading that there’d be an issue again, that’s why I’m so happy that it’s finally done and everything’s top notch 😃
I just checked it out and it looks like the issues have been fixed! The new colors are now consistent - there’s no seam when the clips kick in. I’m so happy to see my Shamook’s work finally realized and implemented, last time the wind on my sails was cut short since just as I was ‘done’ Shamook shared the source quality files and I realized I would have to do the whole thing again. But I’m happy we could get such a high quality source that really feels seamless across the board. Everything just worked out great, and I’m really happy it’s all done.
I checked out v2.0 of Dark Force Rising. Trimming the Obi-Wan/Anakin bickering is a big improvement, and the removal of the clones on Yavin is totally seamless & makes things move along quicker.
I do miss the opening Yoda narration, and the beautiful animation that accompanies it, showing all the different Jedi Knights battling accross the galaxy, it serves as the perfect introduction to the titular Clone Wars. Without it the show starts on a boring shot of Palpatine’s office… it’s a major downgrade in my opinion. In this case I’d prefer higher quality over consistency, keeping the original intro instead of the blue text, the episode is very different in style and tone so it stands on it’s own anyway. The episode also ends with Yoda narration so it makes more sense to begin that way too.
I think it’s a worthwhile improvement. That’s the only bit I can think of in your edits that felt off to me since the music fades abruptly. Letting it linger on makes the transition a lot smoother.
Ah I see, well it’s good to know it’s not on my side. Thanks for corroborating.
Hey Hal, I was able to download the new version. and I was dismayed to find that once again there’s a turn to a slightly more green tint when my clips kick in. All this time I thought something was going wrong during the render so again I tried out different output settings to no avail…
Well I think I figured out what’s going on. I thought to compare the newest version of your edit to the one I use as the base for my clips (V2) on a section that’s not part of my clips, and lo and behold:
That’s a screencap from V2 on the left, and the same shot from V4 on the right. As it turns out this is the source of difference in color. Don’t know if you made any conscious changes but something altered the colors from V2 to V3/4, which causes my clips to stand out. V3/4 is more red overall while V2 is more green, I don’t know which are the original colors (looking at screencaps and Shamook’s clips it might be the more greenish tone) but whichever the case, jumping from one to the other is noticeable.
I could produce a version of the deepfake clips that match your new colors if you’d like, I’d just need the clips of the Tarkin scenes.
Thanks everyone for the kind words, and huge thanks again to Shamook for stepping in with the source files. The stuff I did was pretty straightforward (though very tedious), but he’s the one that really made this possible. Can’t wait to see what he’s able to bring to future Lucasfilm projects.
I agree v5 is really good, the softened transition into “end” makes it flow much better. Not 100% seamless but like Hal said you probably woudn’t pick it up unless you’re looking for it. I think it’s good enough to consider implementing it.
Yeah it’s lore breaking and fan service-y, but rest assured Hal said he’ll be sticking with the Phantom Four.
I look forward to it! I was never 100% satisfied with the non-shamook sources I used but it was a compromise to make it work. This new version brings every shot to the same quality, and it even improves the quality across the board. I’m so glad Shamook actually came in with the original sources.
Also, whenever you get around to updating it, it’d be a good oportunity to remove the excised line “We find Saw. We find your father” that was left in the subtitles.
Hello everyone! It’s been some months since Shamook was kind enough to provide the source files of his Rogue One deepfakes, and as I noted back then the deepfakes themselves were a lot sharper but the surrounding footage was of lower quality.
Well I was finally able to take the time to redo my deepfake implementation, only using Shamook’s source quality files this time. Not only is the source quality much higher, but the files also included all the shots that were missing from the Youtube video. Previously I used alternate sources for these shots (save for one where I couldn’t find any source), they blended better than the original CGI but still they were lower quality and weren’t a perfect match to Shamook’s work, now all the shots are of equal quality and source so the whole thing is way more cohesive.
Here’s a preview of all the new clips:
https://vimeo.com/588713975
pw: fanedit
Most of the work had to be redone but the process was a lot more straightforward this time around. With just a bit of noise the footage blended pretty well, as well as some small fixes, fades etc . I kept the clips the same lenght and name so that is easy to replace the previous versions. (I also learned that exporting lossless is unnecessary and creates ludicrous file sizes so now all the clips only come at 2.16 GB).
I’ve created a Google drive to share this new version and will be sending the link to everyone who previously showed interest, if anyone else would like the link feel free to PM me. Huge thanks to Shamook for sharing his work and making this possible!
Had some time to fiddle with “Leia sensed the end” some more. Still needs some clean up, but…is this at least in the right direction?
Nice work on the inflection, I see now what Hal’s issue was with the previous version. Definitely the right direction.
- I don’t know how to present that finale. You could go RotS then SoM to best preserve SoM’s intensity. That’s the easy path. If you wanted to intercut them it’d become a hassle. There’re a lot of edits which combine the two into one super movie, of which I’ve only watched Delpheas’, but I think my preferred option would be to take a chronological intercutting of both and then turn them into ~5 individual episodes. Interested in ideas.
Personally I think the series finale is stronger on its own, I really like the feeling of isolation from being tied to Ahsoka’s perspective of events. I also like the feeling of dread seeing sprinkles of what happens off screen while being focused on Ahsoka, Maul and Mandalore. So watching the finale after episode III is not only the easiest path, but also the better one imo.
Another thing worth mentioning about the whole “sensed the death of her son” thingy is that the film is built around it. Leia’s body doesn’t vanish until Ben’s does because that’s when she’s completed her “Jedi path”. Yes, it may be stupid, but it’s just the way they made the film.
The thing is the film isn’t built around it, it comes out of left field at the eleventh hour, there’s no build up before it and the “payoff” works fine without it. Implying Leia waited for Ben and maybe guided him across works on its own without any random fulfilled prophecy, same with Ben choosing to give his life force to Rey. If anything it robs agency from the characters to imply this is how it was all set to happen.
Prophecies and visions in Star Wars are never this hard set in stone, always in motion is the future, to imply Leia “sensed” how everything would happen some 20 years before is pretty ridiculous, not to mention nothing we see from Leia in VII VIII or IX implied she had such knowledge. Personally I hope “sensed the end of her Jedi path” can be polished to an acceptable degree, that seems to me like it would make the most sense.
I don’t see the point of reordering these scenes, the way they are originally flow well from one to the next - the news of Leia’s death leads into Ben’s redemption (the result of Leia’s sacrifice), Poe and Finn’s scenes flow into each other and lead into Rey on Ach-to, The droid reunion leads into Rey’s signal (which gives the scene a point). Breaking this flow just makes it feel more like a collection of disjointed scenes.
Also @DZ-330 Hal has removed Finn’s line “He wanted her alive” to simplify Palp’s scheme.
It’s just a very dull concept, “Leia sensed the death of her son so she left her Jedi path, but she said that one day someone would come to complete her son’s destiny to die”. It’s so clunky, and it’s an odd thing to introduce near the end of the final film, where there was no previous notion that Leia had any sort of premonition of her son’s fate, she even said “I know my son is gone” in the last film.
That’s why people considered changing it to ‘birth’ to make things simple. But I think it’s a lot more fitting if Leia simply sensed she was not meant to be a Jedi, it fits better with the Leia we see in the previous films. Luke is talking to Rey about the “destiny of a Jedi”, so it’s fitting to juxtapose that with Leia sensing it wasn’t her destiny to be a Jedi.
It makes more sense if the “journey” Rey has to finish is strictly centered on being a Jedi (the center of her character journey and her main struggle in this film). Adding “oh and also Ben will die when you pick up her journey” just muddles things to the point that’s the one thing people take out of that scene. Shifting the focus of Leia’s path solely on ‘being a Jedi’ also fits pretty nicely with the line change to “I’m a Jedi” on Exegol, which would be followed by the sabers “fizzling out”, finishing their journey.
Exactly, she forgot her parents loved her and then tried to convince herself they did while secretly believeng they didn’t. It’s so dumb and backwards. More than her parents not being ‘nobodies’ this is what ruins the moment in TLJ, and the development of Rey’s character through the first two films.
in any case I don’t think it’s possible to remove the implication that Rey had repressed memories within repressed memories
Come to think of it, in TLJ it’s implied she always knew the truth about her parents, but was in denial - she wanted to believe things might be different. Here it seems to be actually repressed memories coming back to her, and Kylo trying to help her remember - “search your memories”. Basically she was in denial about her parents abandoning her and not caring about her, but it turns out she had repressed memories that prove they did care about her… so she was right to be in denial. It’s really, really dumb. It really makes me wish Rey’s parents being honorable could be removed.
If not, perhaps the line could be changed from “you remember more than you say” to “you remember more than you know”, very minor change but at least it would make it clear she literally doesn’t remember, instead of implying she doesn’t want to accept the truth that her parents cared about her(?!).
If I recall correctly the tone and delivery of “you don’t have to say anything” was way too harsh for the moment. Maybe we could get an A.I. line if it’s not too late, but in any case I don’t think it’s possible to remove the implication that Rey had repressed memories within repressed memories without totally reworking the scene.
“has journeyed” might sound a bit too verbose, I think simply “Supreme Leader Kylo Ren journeys to Mustafar” would work, and imo it sounds better than “has traveled” which always felt a bit dry to me.
I just don’t think we should run the risk of people thinking back to the Palpatine scene during the Han scene since there’s no intended connection to be drawn, I see it as an issue because both lines are said by Kylo, it might seem like a callback where there shouldn’t be one.
And I agree Palps is shown to be the same character, but it could still cause some confusion (that is best avoided) if he is directly refered to as a “clone” - people might assume he has false memories or is just pretending to remember his “past life” as part of his manipulation. We already hear from Merry that “cloning” might have been part of the process, which now connects to the tank of discarded Palp bodies. But he is not a clone, so I think the only way the line would work is if Palpatine was able to counter it (such as it was in the cut dialogue - “more than a clone, less than a man”).
I fear the line would have some odd unwanted symmetry with his line to Han - “You’re just a memory”. Also Palps not refuting that he’s “just a clone” would make it even more confusing whether he’s the same Palps or a copy. He’s only supposed to have a cloned body, which the vat of decayed Palpatines already works to show.
Yeah, her main struggle in the film is feeling worthy of taking the Jedi mantle itself, so that line is more poignant for her character, “all the Jedi” relates more to the broader Sith vs Jedi conflict this film sets to conclude (after resurrecting), but having the Jedi spirits stand behind her and lend her their help is enough to imply that element in a visual manner.
Those are deepfakes that use A.I. to alter the face while following the original motion, changing the mouth movements to match new lines would be a totally different thing. And the Tarkin & Leia deepfakes are not seamless, they’re just a marked improvement over the dated CGI used originally, deepfaking Adam Driver would immediatly stand out as phony compared to the original footage.
I’m also weary of overusing the A.I. voice since it can’t 100% match Adam’s natural performance, though I guess it’s better to get as many samples as we can even if only a small fraction is actually used.
So many great changes have already been implemented/are close to done, it’d be great if a ‘V1.5’ could be put together while the bigger stuff keeps being worked on.