I wouldn’t mind if at least a few creatures or droids were kept in Mos Eisley sequence. We don’t want it to be too underpopulated, after all.
I still don’t know if the audio is planned to be lossless or not.
adywan said:
I forgot to mention about this when talking about the changes between the SD version and the new HD version. The Special Edition footage will be removed. I wanted to do this originally when i was working on the SD version, but couldn’t pull off what i wanted to do. Even though in one of the behind the scenes docs ( i think it was the dewback one) that they claim to have found the original sandtrooper costumes used in ANH, they lied. What we see on screen in the Special edition sequence are ROTJ stormtroopers with sandtrooper bits added. The helmets are slightly squashed, same as the ROTJ ones and they have the solid black mouth. What you’ll see in the HD version will a slightly extended version of the original 1977 scene using accurate sandtroopers. The CG dewbacks really don’t hold up too well either, especially their riders.
There could simply be different manufacturers, in-universe.
Why is it that many of the changes were so poor with continuity between the old and the new stuff? Having the wrong Stormtrooper helmets during the “Look sir, droids!” scene, having new open windows in Cloud City in some shots, but not in others, even if they’re supposed to be the same ones, having Jabba’s palace door apparently be bigger on the outside than it is on the inside, etc.
What was the source of this version? The 2011 Blu-Ray, or the 2020 Blu-Ray? The former is 2.35:1, and the latter is 2:39.1. I’m asking because I prefer the latter, to match the 4K Star Wars Blu-Rays I own.
What programs and settings did you use to fix all of those continuity errors? Is it possible for me to replicate them on my own?
Will the aspect ratio be 2.35:1 like the 2011 Blu-Ray, or 2.39:1 like the 2020 Blu-Ray?
I would love it if it used the 4K HDR version, and just has the continuity fixes in Dazman’s last post, and nothing else.
Am I allowed to share a link here for contacting writer/director Jerry Rees, in case any of you have any questions about how TBLT should be restored?
This is what Jerry Rees told me:
“My art director Brian McEntee and I worked out a progressive increase in the red tint - which builds as the action gets more intense, then fades once Toaster has successfully stopped the crusher. But the film lab kept trying to take the red out. Very frustrating. Brian had to keep tabs on them for every shot - letting them know that his carefully chosen series of filters had been mounted on the camera shot-by-shot, so the negative would permanently hold our intentions. But the lab was so used to “normalizing” live action footage, rather than accepting the purposeful stylizations of animation footage that they never truly got out of the way. The film print we showed at Sundance looked very close to what I had hoped for. The Disney home video release (which introduced a side-to-side wobble throughout the opening that was NOT in our original footage) at least kept my basic intention for the red - although they didn’t go through a true color balance check with Brian and me.”
Don’t forget to keep the red tint during the climax where Rob is stuck on the conveyor belt. Director Jerry Rees told me in a Facebook message that it’s supposed to be there, but the PAL DVD took it out entirely, for reasons that fail me.
https://i.slow.pics/0jDMJS83.png
Yep I will keep note of that. On the print this part is tinted red
What about the rest of the scene? I think it should pretty much match the North American DVD.
Some more screenshots:
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https://i.slow.pics/zKmS76rW.png
https://i.slow.pics/0jDMJS83.png
Unfortunately, all three of those frames actually have the PAL DVD colors that removed the red tint.
Don’t forget to keep the red tint during the climax where Rob is stuck on the conveyor belt. Director Jerry Rees told me in a Facebook message that it’s supposed to be there, but the PAL DVD took it out entirely, for reasons that fail me.
https://i.slow.pics/0jDMJS83.png
Yep I will keep note of that. On the print this part is tinted red
What about the rest of the scene? I think it should pretty much match the North American DVD.
Maybe an idea would be to incorporate the hut as seen in the Obi Wan show (if it’s even featured)?
I have a very strong feeling it will be the SE hut.
I think that Make Mine Music needs an uncensored release the most.
I was going to make an uncensored Make Mine Music myself. For most of the film, I have the DVD. For censored parts in “all the cats joins in” there’s laserdisc rip (at this segment it doesn’t have any subtitles). But, one thing is missing: I can’t get “the martins and the coys” in quality as good as the DVD. If someone can get me that, then the project can go on!
I have a 1080p uncut and uncensored version of Make Mine Music. I used an Australian HD TV rip that went viral some time ago, that includes “The Martins and the Coys,” and the side breast from “All the Cats Join in.” I spliced them in with the official Blu-Ray. Would you like it? How can I send it to you?
Don’t forget to keep the red tint during the climax where Rob is stuck on the conveyor belt. Director Jerry Rees told me in a Facebook message that it’s supposed to be there, but the PAL DVD took it out entirely, for reasons that fail me.
There’s a major problem with Octorox’s video that I feel should definitely be fixed. I was told by the director Jerry Rees in a Facebook message conversation that the heavy red tint during the climax where Rob is stuck on the conveyer belt is supposed to be there. The restoration team for the PAL DVD removed it by accident. He told me this:
“My art director Brian McEntee and I worked out a progressive increase in the red tint - which builds as the action gets more intense, then fades once Toaster has successfully stopped the crusher. But the film lab kept trying to take the red out. Very frustrating. Brian had to keep tabs on them for every shot - letting them know that his carefully chosen series of filters had been mounted on the camera shot-by-shot, so the negative would permanently hold our intentions. But the lab was so used to “normalizing” live action footage, rather than accepting the purposeful stylizations of animation footage that they never truly got out of the way. The film print we showed at Sundance looked very close to what I had hoped for. The Disney home video release (which introduced a side-to-side wobble throughout the opening that was NOT in our original footage) at least kept my basic intention for the red - although they didn’t go through a true color balance check with Brian and me.”
Adywan, please reconsider your decision to remove the extended Death Star battle sequence. It was one of the best parts! Almost everyone in the comment section of your April 3rd Facebook post agrees. We all think it should be kept in.
Bridgr12 I’m sure adywan tried it out and found it does not work in the HD version or maybe he just was not happy with it to start with so I think let’s just let adywan do he’s thing and make the version he feels most happy with, after all this is he’s edit.
Adywan is a perfectionist and I’m more than excited to see the version he is most satisfied with. colour corrected updated effects lightsabers lasers and corrected mistakes are more than enough to make this edit amazing.
he’s empire strikes back is great and I’m sure this will be just as great.darkzip is doing an upscale of ANH:R SD so why not create your own version that has the extended DS attack when the HD verrsion is released?
The thing is, I know that Blu-Rays will be made of the Revisited Trilogy, likely with menus, and I wouldn’t know how to create a new Blu-Ray using those menus, since I’d be replacing the movie. I also don’t know if the audio will be lossless, and I don’t know how to export edited videos with lossless audio.
Adywan, please reconsider your decision to remove the extended Death Star battle sequence. It was one of the best parts! Almost everyone in the comment section of your April 3rd Facebook post agrees. We all think it should be kept in.
If the logos matter so much to you edit it in yourself. There’s no need to be this nitpicky about it. I don’t need to get emails about logo discussion.
I’m not complaining about it.
There was one very minor change made to the 1080p version I noticed that I actually like, and that is the removal of the “A News Corporation Company” byline in the 20th Century Fox logo. Personally, it always felt off to me, because by then, in 2017, it was no longer in the official logo, and having it with the modern Lucasfilm logo made it even more out of place. I hope this new 1080p logo sans the byline will be kept for ANH:R HD and ROTJ:R. It really is an absolute BEAUTY.
Star Wars (1977), Empire Strikes Back (1980), and Return of the Jedi (1983) were all released/distributed by 20th Century Fox and LucasFilm Ltd. The only Star Wars films that don’t have the 20th Century Fox logo are the sequel trilogy. At-least for these films, in my point of view, the TCF logo is not out of place.
I’m sorry, I should have been more specific. The old 720p version of Empire Revisited has “A News Corporation Company” under the 20th Century Fox logo, but in the current 1080p version, it’s not there.
There was one very minor change made to the 1080p version I noticed that I actually like, and that is the removal of the “A News Corporation Company” byline in the 20th Century Fox logo. Personally, it always felt off to me, because by then, in 2017, it was no longer in the official logo, and having it with the modern Lucasfilm logo made it even more out of place. I hope this new 1080p logo sans the byline will be kept for ANH:R HD and ROTJ:R. It really is an absolute BEAUTY.
I’m surprised it was never fixed for the Special Edition.
I’m wondering if there is a version of the Emperor scene with Adywan’s revisited image of the hologram and 2011 blu-ray dialogue?
I don’t think so.
You know, I don’t think it’s even necessary to have that extended bit of dialogue anymore, and I don’t know why it was kept in versions that came out after Revenge of the Sith. I am not sure what the intentions were to have Vader ask “How is that possible?”. In a 2015 canon comic that takes place between Episodes IV and V, Vader asks Boba to investigate more about the pilot who destroyed the Death Star. Boba comes back with the information that his name is “Skywalker.” Vader naturally got VERY angry after hearing it, because Palpatine lied to him about him killing Padmé in his anger on Mustafar, while she was still pregnant, and he had been going on for 20 years with that thought in mind.
Actually, I don’t think it’s possible for me to do all of this. It’s just too much. I wanted to give it the same quality as Adywan’s stuff, but I guess I can’t live up to that high standard.
I would love to see the plans morph (extract from .zip file haha) from the OG/RogueOne version to the enhanced ones from the original Revisited, just colored white instead of read.
What do you mean? Do you want it to go through some kind of “system update”?
I’ve been thinking about creating my own fan edits of the PT. Unlike other editors, I mostly want to keep the creative and narrative integrity, and I don’t want to do such things like dubbing the aliens with new a language and adding subtitles, like others have. The problem is that I don’t know where to start, what programs to use, and if it’s even possible to do absolutely everything on this list. Could someone please help me?
Across the Trilogy:
Use Adywan’s 20th Century Fox logo from The Empire Strikes Back: Revisited.
Change the starfields and planet exteriors to more high resolution versions.
Have them be in 4K HDR.
Keep the lossless Dolby Atmos mixes.
Re-rotoscope the lightsabers and have them omit and reflect light onto surfaces.
Change the lip movements of the Neimoidians to better match the words.
Redo the opening crawls with the ST fonts.
Redo the end credits so that the starfields are there throughout the entire thing.
The Phantom Menace:
Add a field of grain to the whole movie.
Remove some, but not all, of Jar Jar’s antics.
Remove the power cord lighting up the bulbs on Queen Amidala’s dress.
Fix the shots where Obi-Wan’s Padawan braid is on his left ear instead of his right.
Remove or reposition the inconsistent shadows in some shots.
Maybe cut some parts of the pod race so it doesn’t get too boring.
Use the trailer version of Padmé saying “Get to your ships!”
Lower Yoda’s voice a little.
Change the Mace Windu double near the end to actually be Samuel L. Jackson.
Attack of the Clones:
Change the the color of the fabric that Padmé is packing, as it changes from red to blue between shots.
I may or not add the scene with Anakin meeting Padmé’s family. The problem is that it’s too different in picture quality compared to the rest of the movie, and I don’t think there’s any way to make it work with the lossless Dolby Atmos track.
Revenge of the Sith:
Fix the continuity error of Padmé’s nightgown pearls being tangled in one shot.
Fix the shot where Palpatine has Anakin’s lightsaber handle, a holdover from a deleted scene.
When Anakin lands on Mustafar, add the black glove back to his right hand, as he puts his hood on.
Maybe replace Vader’s “Nooooo!” with the Russian version.
