adywan said:
The thing with all this new canon crap being introduced is that it is pushing the OT further out of the loop. As i have said many times anything outside of the 6 movies does not count to me as being canon. The PT needs to be radically changed to fit in with the OT and not the other way around & that is what i want to accomplish. The "Revisited" saga has nothing to do with any of the spin-offs and never will do. The Clone wars tv series also messes with what we know in the PT so why it is deemed as canon is beyond me. Anakin shouldn't be able to have a Padawan as he isn't yet a master and is still a Padawan himself. Star Wars is becoming a total mess and has done ever since the PT came out. If we are supposed to make the movies to fit in with what the spin-offs include then we have to make the Ewoks speak and revisions to the movies could never end. GL wrote the Ewok films and that makes them canon if we are saying that any star wars stuff GL has a hand in is cannon. Just because he says the series is canon really doesn't mean much any more. He seems to have lost all reasoning as to what the star wars saga is all about and adds anything in without actually thinking if it would mess with something that is already mentioned or is featured in the movies. Also having a video game become canon is damn ridiculous. It seems anything with the star wars name on it now is suddenly canon. The OT came first so everything should be made to fit around those movies. Then everything that followed the PT should also be made to fit those but it doesn't. That is why the only canon that will exist for Revisited is the movies.
And yet again onto Anakin burning then if you're going to say i take a longer look at medical science then maybe you should too because if we are sticking to medical science then Obi-Wan & Anakin would have died long before the battle ended and would ahve both burned to a crisp. Do you know how hot volcanic lava is? The air would be full of poisonous gasses so when outside the structures shields they would have died very quickly. And as i said Anakin is lying face down close and the flames aren't severe around his face so the fire argument doe not work. Smoke inhalation is the biggest factor in any lung damage in a fire. Read about that guy in the link i posted . he was completely on fire, in an enclosed space and he survived without major lung damage. Anakin was on fire for a few seconds. His transformation was very poorly executed. the original explanation having Anakin falling into a lava pit would have made more sense as the lava would have severely burned away most of his body and his lungs & internal organs would have been severely damaged. All we got was a few limbs missing and a bad burn. Also if you listen to Anakin when they are operating on him at the end he is screaming out . So no lung damage. Another thing they screwed up in the PT. That alone proves that there was not enough lung damage, if any at all, to warrant a life support suit. Case closed. lol
No hostility intended here but you do seem to want it both ways (and why not? The prequel trilogy revisited edits will be yours after all but...) your objection to Vader's need for mechanical breathing assistance stemming from his being baked to near death on a volcanic planet comes from your personel feel of what is scientifically accurate but you admit that Obi Wan would be just as screwed by the heat and poisoned vapours too.
As I said some pages back Star Wars isn't Science Fiction it's Science Fantasy, the story has to obey the rules of the fantasy realm it exists in but it doesn't have to obey the laws of real science (if it did the sound in space thing would be a bit hard to get around).
In the fantasy realm of Star Wars having Force powers increases stamina, allows one to manipulate gravity and electricity and heal quicker which could explain why Obi-Wan and Darth don't burst into flame being so close to the seering heat of Volcanic lava (if you went for Vader tumbling into lava he would vapourise before he hit the surface in the real world) and how Vader managed to survive as long as he did before being put into his suit.
If Jedi and Sith can distort gravity with their powers they could bend the heat away from their bodies just as easierly, perhaps having his remaining limbs hacked off was enough of a destraction for Vader to lose his grip on the Force heat bending thing to add heat injury to all the other nastyness but it seems a tad silly to say it's not enough scientifically for Vader to need his iron lung going by the damage he recieved at the end of ROTS when scientifically much of Star Wars wouldn't work including almost all of that duel.
One aspect that I thought was really crap was the way Palpatine dangles the carrot of saving Padme at Anakin but when he finally turns Palpatine claims to not really have that power after all. That should go as it weakens Palpatine's hand, Vader has to obey Palpatine because he wants that secret.
Instead of the dreaded "Not Want!" at the revelation that Padme is dead Vader should try to kill Palpatine as he no longer has any use for him, only to have Palpatine use the Force to fiddle with his suit and disable him.
That way the suit isn't just a life support, it's a cage.
If Vader displeases his master he can shut it and him down which explains why his suit fails so quickly after he throws the Emperor to his death in ROTJ.
