Davnes007 said:Just a silly idea.
(it's not animated)
- I opened the GIF with 'GIF Construction Set', and most of the frames are just the changes between other frames.
Zoinks! Right in the Midichloreans.
Ripplin said:Haven't seen that gif in a while. Always fun. :)
Y'know, seems weird to not see vaderios in this thread for a while. Building a new computer, I think?
I love Boba's air swim (though I would prefer it to be removed in the manner we talked about many pages back).
vaderios is sans pc at the moment, I look forward to his return.
There is still a lot of unused and deleted material that as yet has never seen the light of day.
I think the scene is a good one it could be trimmed a bit but Padme needs more screen time in ROTS she is far too passive a character in the theatrical cut and it is difficult to feel the tragedy of her death when she is such an absent presence.
EyeShotFirst said:PLEASE GOD SOMEONE REMOVE THE CGI MAX REEBO BAND AND REPLACE IT WITH THE PUPPETS FROM THE OUT. that makes me cringe every time i see it. and leave out jar jar and hayden christiansen I WILL BE TRULLY HAPPY. I could live with hayden in it but jar has to go and please put the old celebration song the new one is just ODD. Vaders saber is a little to pink and solid for me so anyone can make it better looking. overall adywan and dart editious can do NO WRONG.
I'm OK with the addition of the backing singers, the big drums the horn players etc but I agree that the CGI creatures need to go (though I like the floating microphone).
Neither Sy Snootles appeals to me the puppet looked like a puppet at the CGI version looked like a cartoon.
The design is a sound one though so maybe the puppet can be argmented with more subtle CGI work.
I'm not really keen on either Lapti Nek or Jedi Rocks, I'm in the planning stages of building a new computer and I shall attempt to craft something new which matches a mixture of footage from the OUT and SE versions but if it doesn't work I might just replace it with something instumental and see how that looks.
I think the music should be as sleazy and debaunched as the scene it's playing over, both Jedi Rocks and Lapti Nek sound too poppy and not enough like stripper/poll dancing music fused with a bit of Eastern pastiche belly dancing.
The sabres will no doubt be fixed by Adywan in ROTJ:R but they do present even more of a challenge in this film than in any of the others because they are so thickly drawn.
Hayden does have to go, I have no real problem with the Gungan but I would remove his voice (which is clearly Jar-Jar's) I hope the Gungans get a total overhaul in the PT:R so I wouldn't like ROTJ:R to end with Jar-Jar's voice.
I'm also not convinced that either piece of celebration music works and suggestions like those made a bit earlier should be investigated.
A couple more things that clearly needs attention are the poor quality explosions in the Endor space battle which are merely overlayed blobs instead of showing any actual structural damage to the ships and the infamous Force Kick during the barge battle :
Click on the tree icon, paste the location into the correct field, label it in the image description field (just in case), I set my images to left (I'm a sinister sort of guy) and then click insert.
This is the image:
doubleofive said:Luke Vader said:this may sound stupid but how do I insert pictures in my posts? Do I have to upload them on imageshack first?
Yes, or Photobucket. Photobucket is much more functional, in my opinion.
I use Skydrive.
ladyferry said:doubleofive said:DONE.
Final tally: 290
Screennames starting with "Darth": 22
Duplicates?
Boost = TheBoost ?
professa = professa skiving at work ?
Darth Stewie = DarthStewie ?
CLIVE_FERRYHILL = clive_ferryhill_jedi ?Posted to my googlepage. PM me if you're not on there. I'm keeping the "civilian names" elsewhere.
Don't forget that there is only one LadyFerry! (capital 'L'and capital 'F' Lady and Ferry GLUED together to form one word! x
Ladytron Bryan Ferry, perhaps?
Just a rough photoshop merge of the two puppets, looks rather interesting though.
adywan said:Amok said:I just noticed something about the interior of the SD shot. The two officers standing that much apart... dunno if that really works. Somehow the way they stand just feels like they should stand closer together. you know people restrain their body movements more, the closer they get to others. I am aware that in the military this is standard protocol, but something about those two officers just doesn't feel right yet. What was your reason for putting them further apart?
It was mainly due to framing. having the officers in their original positions didn't look right with the new background windows & the planet. i couldn't move the officer that comes from the right hand side of the frame so that only left Captain Lennox. There was also the issue of the walkway around the windows. if i moved the windows to the left so i could keep Lennox in his original position then it would look like the officer had walked over the pit. at the end of the day i was more concerned about eyeline than body stance.
Knightmessenger said:I've been watching some of your updates on youtube and I'm pretty impressed as usual. And I got to see the entire Star Wars Revisited on youtube. It was interesting seeing my name in the credits, even though I don't remember giving any suggestions for that edit.
If you do the same thing with Empire, do you want our real names?
Oh god you reminded me of the huge task i have of collecting all the names from this thread and now its reached over 6000 posts thats going to be a daunting task that i am not looking forward to. If anyone wants their real names included then you'll need to email me with your real name along with your forum name so i can keep a track on things.
Ganamae said:I noticed something, when we 1st see the destroyer shoot towards Hoth you can see some squares and some odd shadow on the command bridge, copy paste!?
Perhaps this will be smoothed out?
which shot are you talking about? can you be more specific about this please?
ImperialFighter said:
I wonder if the slightly 'lop-sided' ears of the 'puppet' version will be part of Ady's version or not?
I always liked them, myself. :)
I'm still debating about the ears but they'll probably end up included.
I noticed something interesting when i was watching SP FX: The making of the Empire Strikes Back today. They have a brief shot of the puppet and its slightly different than the one used in the movie. The film version has more hair added to its cheeks and this covers up the horns. so it was nice to see the puppet with its original horns.
Maybe that was Mr Wampa and the one at the beginning is his wife Wanda Wampa.
The real problem is that in the prequels the Sith got the most distinctive sabres, when you think TPM Maul's double-ender (f'nah-f'nah) springs to mind, Dooku has the bendy one (Pfhhph!) and Sidious has the black shiny one with the gold trim and the sting in it's tail (da-dum-pish!).
For the head and claws I'd go for theatrical wig and beard hair suppliers (if I could go back in time to the early nineties I'd know just the place to get it too...darn).
The original puppet looks more like a shaggy misshaped human than a polar bear and the face is more hairy than furry, you might be able to massacre several out of season Santa wigs and beards, (a bit of spirit gum, morticians wax and razor blades can do wonders).
For the body, most of these suppliers are outside the UK but they might help.
http://www.andrewdavidson.com/links/faux-fur/
if it's horns you are after this might help too.
http://speyside-horn.co.uk/rawmaterial.html
They sell products made from horn but I'm sure if you contacted them they could get you some untouched samples.
HotRod said:What does the typeface University Roman tell about a guy??
Do you mean USC Roman or Berkeley Roman?
If you mean just plain University Roman (a very nasty letroset advertising typeface from 1972 designed by Bruce Rogers, the better half once knew him) I'd say you are the type of person who likes really tacky romantic novels or low price chocolate selection boxes (Terry's All Gold or Milk Tray).
HotRod said:Jonno said:Bingowings: Yes, I've got those tapes from the Executor set somewhere too. The simple lightsaber designs were certainly nicer than the new 'paintings' on the individual versions (I guess it was around this time that LFL decided they needed to reinvent the wheel for every goddamn release!)
No idea if that set is worth anything, though as an aside the documentaries - MOSW, SPFX, CC and FSTJ - look far better on those PAL tapes than anywhere else I've seen them...
Ziz: Unfortunately the other UK rental tapes were a lot less distinctive:
I don't even have these tapes any more, though I doubt they're rare if anyone was inclined to rewShork them...
Shit, this brings back some merories. I have all these vhs tapes. I paid (well I say I paid, my mother really) £56 for ESB bak in 84 when it was first released. Man I wathched that tape to death. Still have them, and all the other vhs released tapes too. I think I own the trilogy including dvd's about 8 times. What a mug!!! ha
And this is the Executor box set covers I modified for DVD
I love those, what sabres would you put on a prequel set?
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Sumguy21 said:I like the scene, everything looks very good. Very natural. However, I don't like the "lightning" effect on the ion cannon. It makes it pretty obvious what software you used and distracts from the scene.
Only if you know what software was being used (most people wouldn't), I'm sure the guys who work in the industry are incredible jades when it comes to viewing special effects shots but the majority of the paying audiences wouldn't give a monkey's as long as it looked good at helped propel the story.
JasonN said:God, have people even bothered to LOOK at the content of this documentary first before forming an opinon on it? This is not a 100% "Bashing Lucas" film - it gives both sides of the George Lucas issue an equal share of film to discuss and give voice to their praises or condemnations of Lucas and his work, his decisions, and the path that he's decided on for the SW legacy.
Nobody on here has suggested that the documentary is Lucas bashing, I think it is reasonable for people not to want to be seen as such though, especially if it impacts on the creative work people are doing here (look what happened to Fanedit.org which went out of it's way to discourage piracy and encourage the purchase of the original source materials but still had to remove all of it's links).
So far Lucasfilm has encouraged fan films and not actively pursued fan editors (just people selling edits).
If this documentary puts what goes on here and on related sites under a Lucasentric spot light that attitude might change.
Jonno said:I love the retro approach to custom covers (particularly considering how bloody awful the official design ethic has become), so I was all set to use MoveAlong's design for my Pwnage disc.
However, for a few pennies I laid my hands on an original UK rental VHS - a tape with particular nostalgia value to me - so I thought I'd have a crack at reworking its cover for DVD:
Of course, it should be used with a white amaray for the full effect:
I can make this available - and indeed the original scan - if there's any interest.
I had this version (and the original ESB and ROTJ UK versions) but I gave it away (what a silly billy).
I then got the first widescreen versions and gave them away too.
Finally I got the Executor tin set (is it worth much?) and I've still got that.
The sabre covers would make a nice set (and a prequel version could be made too but the Sith sabres are the most easy to recognise).
TheBoost said:wwdarth said:But...why? Hopefully, just for the fun of it.
STAR WARS is what it is. An amazing piece of entertainment. I was 7 years old in 77, so believe me when I say it literally changed my life...not to mention giving me a tremendous childhood. White sabres can be annoying, but there is a also a certain charm that goes along with grainy film and that original LUCASFILM logo.
Don't get me wrong, what Adywan did was...incredible, and he should be applauded for such a time consuming, creative undertaking. If nothing else, it's a bold statement to Lucas to say this is how you fix a lightsabre...it's really not all that hard to tell the difference between blue and green. If Adywan can make a cinema quality special edition, why can't Lucas fix the blatant errors with his own professional release? I'm all for recompositing fx shots to get rid of matte lines as well as other subtle digital fixes where the original just wasn't good enough. However, if I'm being honest that's where I would draw the line at repairs.
Yes it's fun to hear "Vader's March" in ANH, or find out the limits of a new space battle on home video/computer equipment...but some things should remain the same. When Obi-Wan paused to exchange with a telling smile with Vader befor being cut down, it was that musical cue that brings me back to childhood viewings and embodies the original film. Yes, it was interesting to see how the prequal music fit over the beginning of the scene which wasn't scored...but if the original cue now is substituted or sped up to make room for a prequal cue, to me at least, that's just as bad as Greedo shooting first.
Preach on brother.
Like you, I also totally dig Adywan's work. But what he did, while very cool, didn't perfect the movie. In my mind, 'Star Wars' was perfect to begin with.
I used to have my SE VHS on the shelf next to the REAL versions. Now I happily have Ady's version in the same DVD case as the REAL version (laserdisk rip).
Although I disagree on drawing the line at repairs. That's one of the reasons I like Ady's title "Revisited." It, and all OT fan edits, can only ADD to the experience and the love, they can never replace it. It lets me experience it again, with fresh eyes.
I also like it because I convinced my roommate it was the sequal to Brideshead Revisited.
Seeing as Lucas started this the moment he began adjusting his own film back in 1978ish I don't see how making varient versions is any more puzzling now than it was back then.
ANH is ANH because George altered a film called Star Wars.
As for there being a Real version and varient less Real versions of the story, surely that's something more for individual viewers to decide and not for any author or editor to dictate.
Since Conan Doyle first started writing Holmes stories people have been debating who or what is the definative Sherlock Holmes.
Is it Holmes as written about by Doyle in A Study In Scarlet, is it Holmes as drawn by Sidney Paget, is Holmes as played by Rathbone, Cushing or Brett?
It's a debate that will never end.
For some people these edits are just playful fun but to some it's an attempt to find and share an idealised form of a story that is important to them.
I have no problem with anyone who sees any version of these films as their Real Star Wars but none of us should delude ourselves into believing there is one universal definative version.
I haven't the means to burn the DVD-9 version so I've had to content myself with the DVD-5 version.
Also I'm not sure if now's the time.
With so many interesting projects (not all of which are Lucas related) on the go this is just the sort of publicity that could bring the legal blast doors slamming down and kill them off.
Most editors of Lucas aren't against him but are ironically more for his work than he is, these edits are essentially an act of salvage more than protest.
I think it's, "Two fighters against a Star Destroyer?" guy.
He had just enough of the Force with him to sense his fate but not enough to avoid it.
What a relief to finally (after so many broken promises from GL) not see through those X-wings.
Everything looks so clean and crisp, it really looks like it was filmed yesterday and not nearly three decades ago.
I think that is a rather pretty image in it's own right (warts and all).
Some of the blerb on the back is hilariously badly written, how can an Empire be anything but Imperial (it's like saying the American Americans)? I wasn't aware that Han, Leia etc were trying to take over the Empire, I thought they were trying to get rid of it altogether.
It's not as bad as some of the early VHS releases in the UK which committed the mortal sin of calling Han, Hans.
It seems daft to me that in this instance this room still has map screens stuck on the ceiling where nobody can get to them and the only things in this useful space on the flag ship are two guys and two surgeon droids.
It should be an active command centre like the one seen in ANH, with maps screens people can get to, alternative displays for monitoring the entire battle and controls, is Ackbar's huge ship being controlled by the four or five chaps in his little blister?
The idea being a bit like when a school gym is being used for an assembly or play.
The gym equipment is folded up against the wall but when it's a gym the seating is removed and the gym equipment is folded out.
Briefing over down go the seats into the floor and down from the ceiling come the map screens and the room is filled with battle tacticians and the like.
Another way of looking at it is thinking about all those speakeasy scenes in films like Bugsy Malone where the tables turn around or flip under the floor and suddenly it's a Bible recital or a charming little tearoom.
doubleofive said:Bingowings said:The room is clearly a part of the ship command centre that is just being used for the briefing (Ackbar's control blister over hangs the area and we see the holo-table being used as a tactical display during the battle.
Really? I never noticed.
Remember when the shield goes down tech guys are monitoring the hologram of the Death Star just before Ackbar commands that fleet moves away before it explodes.
