In the radio version the stormtrooper says “It’s a plating ring from a droid, sir” or at least I remember him saying that I haven’t heard it since 1981.
I wish I could 😄
Leia is Finn’s dad?
That’s a twist I wasn’t expecting.
So you don’t think that in the whole of a galaxy where humans are present the only prominent figures of colour are directly connected to the Skywalker/Solo/Amidala family is a bit demeaning and ridiculous even from the level of coincidence we come to expect in these movies?
Mace Windu : Principle of Luke’s dad’s High School
Pananka : Bodyguard of Luke’s mum.
Lando : Previous owner of Leia’s boyfriend’s car and sometimes buddy.
So now we have Finn. He has an ethical and moral crisis on the planet invaded by Luke’s nephew, on a search for a map to Luke, bumps into Han in the process of stealing his old car from it’s current owner and… he’s Lando’s son?
He is escapes his indoctrination and lands right next to his dad’s old car?
In a galaxy?
That’s PT level weird that’s like expecting Ronald McDonald to know Elizabeth I because the both have red hair.
Since that big reveal moment in ESB Star Wars became a family saga and some people thought that was a mistake.
I personally think having the saga Skywalker centred isn’t that bad but Finn being Lando’s son would not only be as silly as Threepio being Luke’s brother but it would also be rather insulting to all the people of African origin who watch the films.
If Frink has anything to do with it I’d say yes.
Shhhhhhhhhh !
Maybe if all Jedi masters wear the white under-robe in the PT his ghost in ROTJ would indicate not only that he has rejoined his fallen comrades after death but attains mastery of the Jedi arts.
Still think this looks cooler :
Snoke is a mask for Leia.
😄
imperialscum said:
Well he was still essentially calling all the shots in ESB. By the time he got the loan (and deal with Fox), creatively the most important part was already done with him having absolute power. Even after that he still seemed to be in complete control, considering he fired Kurtz (producer) in the middle of principal photography.
Kurtz went once most of his work was done and he had already contributed ideas that were to lead into ROTJ (albeit in a contractual obligation album realisation rather the four more sequel episodes sense that was on the cards at that point).
At no time during the production of ESB was Lucas actually secure and reports from that time paint a picture of a very worried and almost paranoid person.
He is less paranoid during the making of ROTJ but just drained by his private life and trying to run a very big company.
Come the PT anyone saying no to Lucas would probably end up in the trash compactor.
He keeps Gringo in conversation all the while having a gun pointed at him from under the table.
At any point Han could have shot Gringo.
He only shoots when the green guy tells him he is about to murder him for cash and steal his ship.
This is how Cold Blooded Han would go:
GRINGO : Going somewhere Solo?
HAN : Yeah
HAN SHOOTS GRINGO IN THE FACE, THROWS A COIN TO THE BAR KEEP.
HAN : Sorry about the mess
Lucas’ whimsy and energy (creative not physical, he barely moved the camera) worked in a team of people where he had to fight to keep his ideas and notions in the mix. Once he became the Emperor and anyone that might obstruct him was removed he had nothing to steer him on course.
Not really a valid point, since he was the “emperor” ever since ANH was finished. Even in ANH he had mostly free hands since studio didn’t seem to be particularly interested in the film. Of course he couldn’t directly fire people in ANH but he could in ESB and ROTJ. The way I see it, he had more sense and was a bit more open to outside input during OT. Still, judging from screenplay meetings transcripts from ESB and ROTJ, he pretty much rejected any suggestion he did not like. Perhaps in PT his team wasn’t giving him any suggestion at all.
It is valid. Lucas sank all his cash into ESB and when it went over budget he had to go cap in hand to Fox, something he desperately wanted to avoid doing. If he didn’t make his money back and make enough to repay Fox and still make enough profit to reinvest in his other projects his success with the first film would have been flushed away. So not quite Emperor at this point.
This and he almost had a physical and mental breakdown making the first film meant he needed to surround himself with people who could help him make the second film go as smoothly as it could. Don’t get me wrong I concede he still ghost directed much of the thing, almost totally rewrote the screenplay and was still not satisfied with the film most people love to bits.
Come ROTJ he was able to call all the shots. He didn’t need any more loans from Fox and he could get rid of whom so ever he pleased. This all while his marriage to Marcia was on it’s last embers and Marcia had made friends on the OT. Friends that were largely removed from his circle.
This is the period where script by maquette started to seep in. You see some of it when George is picking out characters for Jabba’s court (which is still okay as that’s not really going to influence the plot direction). But then you had the villains of the PT being created by the art department doing design concepts.
Instead of writing a character and deciding what the character looked like he was getting people to design action figures and allocating plot to the eventual toy product.
From ROTJ onwards story and film craft began to take second place to filling the screen with things that may be purchased as small colourful plastic collectables. That’s why the PT is so ‘dense’.
The acting in TFA is sometimes better than ROTJ but it’s story is even more a reconstruction of what was proven to work the first time, which is why I prefer ROTJ because it still has a spark of something unexpected and narratively interesting.
The PT has interesting plot points (some of which go nowhere like the mystery elements of AOTC) but unlike TFA the acting, directing and characters are bland and poorly constructed and rendered (human and digital cartoon).
This is what happens when telling a story is a secondary consideration to making cash. I’ve got no problem with people making cash from a well told story but I don’t generally speaking enjoy adverts.
I thought Owen sidelined in mail order kinky whips which Luke had to keep clean.
I agree, the whole set up of the window/Windu scene is very sophisticated. Horribly framed, terribly directed. Even stalwart actor of the prequels Ian McDiarmid loses his mojo. But the situation is impressively sophisticated. Makes you wonder how it would played out in JJ’s hands.
This is the problem with Star Wars and Terminator and just about any film that is in a ‘franchise’ as opposed to a series of stories.
People are so nervous about screwing it up that they swerve from one form of less than satisfaction to another.
Lucas’ whimsy and energy (creative not physical, he barely moved the camera) worked in a team of people where he had to fight to keep his ideas and notions in the mix. Once he became the Emperor and anyone that might obstruct him was removed he had nothing to steer him on course.
With Disney they want to make a film for the ‘masses’ so everything is either a variation on or a call back to something that already worked and the audience might remember and feel included and happy with themselves for getting it.
That Vincent Ward’s Alien 3 ever got green lit after the money Aliens made is astonishing. That it was watered down and smashed into the unrecognisable mess that is the theatrical cut of Fincher’s film is less of a surprise.
At least TFA makes the same amount of narrative sense as ANH.
I hate Terminator 2 so there you go 😄
How?
Me explaining on this page (can’t we link to posts anymore?) : http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Looks-like-Terminator-Fans-have-a-petition-of-their-own/id/12344
I would have R2 activated by proximity to the saber.
Sorry, interesting idea but the picture loses vital information like the anchor points of the composition when it’s cropped this much.
Elements need room to breath and characters need feet or the composition looks really strange.
The farmstead shot almost works as does the duel (the label for that one and the end shot are the wrong way round btw).
One possible way to do it would be to add material to the composition so you have more room to crop away.
So for example if you extended the medical frigate room you could have the whole of our heroes in frame and have the same proportions.
That would be a heck of a lot of work though but maybe you wouldn’t have to do it for every shot.
I was in that situation.
I was convinced it was going to go my way (for once).
Totally misread it (pretended that I thought it wouldn’t go my way as usual).
I was so nervous I did the whole declaration of love stuff via email (not a good idea perhaps but at least I could be undignified in private 😄 )
My advice ask, face to face, in a speculative but lighthearted way if the prospect would be okay, don’t go in all aortas firing and if she says no don’t blame anyone, including yourself (disappointments just happen sometimes).
Keep the flames of friendship burning because friends are really good things to have in life.
If you don’t ask you’ll never know and will be kicking yourself for inaction.
And you never know, she might say yes and then you’ll have to live happily ever after or else, right?
I just want to tell you both good luck. We’re all counting on you.
Nobody has ever seen a Star Wars movie without a John Williams score so I guess this is a first for us all! We’ll have to wait an see. No doubt opinions will be mixed.
I saw Caravan of Courage in the cinema (good Lords of Kobol I tried to sneak out of that unseen).
I hate Terminator 2 so there you go 😄
I’m the only person reading or writing here and I can keep a secret… from myself.
Doesn’t China have some kind of law against movies with positive portrayals of homosexuality? Unless Disney is willing to forgo Chinese box office completely, I think the Finn/Poe tension is going to remain subtext in future installments.
Not being an expert I looked it up on not entirely expert Wikipedia and there have been a large number of films made on the subject in China (mostly Hong Kong but not banned).
Rey is definitely the lead, in the way Luke was. Finn is more like Leia in being a potential love interest and if the Poe Dameron fan theories come to anything it’s a potential triangle with Finn as the critical vertex.
I think Rey and Poe will fight over Finn.
I personally think that would be cool, that would just leave Trek in the closet 😃
Rey is definitely the lead, in the way Luke was. Finn is more like Leia in being a potential love interest and if the Poe Dameron fan theories come to anything it’s a potential triangle with Finn as the critical vertex.
It might work better if the station created a hyperspace conduit to the star of the system they want to destroy and distabilise that star.
With the amount of damage it does in the film to the base’s own star system the weapon would have a very short shelf life (I can’t remember any reference to the base being moveable from star to star).
The problem with this idea is the fast fall of night on the base-world is meant to be a visual countdown to the firing of the weapon but as Ender says it could be explained by natural means.
It would make more sense visually if we saw the base fire and then saw the target sun shrink and the planets blow up rather than the shrinking star being fuel for the weapon.
I would make it a weapon built on a planet instead of an artificial world. The Empire took decades building the first Death Star with all the resources of a galaxy.
Building an artificial planet like that would be noticed and resource heavy. The First Order want to finish their weapon and destroy the Republic fleet and capital. They would only need the gun for that. All the size gags were a bit silly. It would make more sense if the gun was smaller than the Death Star.