Bingowings

FFS If Episode 3 spoiled Episode 5 of any other series people would go nuts.
The prequels should have been made so they could be watched chronologically or in the order they were made and still maintained the surprise, That part was easy.
Imagine if the Snape flashback to Harry Potter’s first encounter with Voldemort was in the first film.
It would completely ruin our appreciation of the arc of that character.
For many young people their first experience of Star Wars would be a binge run of the movies in number order…poor sods.
Surely the whole point of Revisited is to try to make the films into what they could have/should have been?
That aspect isn’t the most terrible part of the PT but it is bad.

As for Jabba being on Tatooine. I don’t really have a problem with it. Luke was always going to go back to Tatooine. Anyone who says so flippantly "I’m never coming back to this place ever again: is doomed by irony.

It’s too blurry to use it’s a shame that the blu-ray sets didn’t have every single bit of filmed footage in HD but that’s not the biggest flaw of that pile (I can’t bring myself to actually watch the films in the set).

Some pages back I mention that one of the problems I have with the invasions and battles in the prequels is there aren’t many signs of peril for the populations of the worlds we see.
Naboo is still a garden paradise, we don’t see the Gungan city ruined, we don’t see the effects of the war on Coruscant.
I imagine many people on here would have seen this Star Trek ‘fan film’ extended prelude and maybe read about the problems that the film makers have had with Paramount but it does manage to create a tangible sense of loss and portent with very minimal actors and effects shots of destruction. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W1_8IV8uhA
It’s a shame the Klingons don’t have a title which means “the final MILF”.

Star Doors: The Foot Asquashens. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/02/11/health_and_safety_star_wars/

I would dearly like to see edits with these alternate takes put back into a full sound mix.

TV’s Frink said:
I firmly believe that Ledger’s Joker was so praised only because he died.

Maybe by some but not by me.
It’s a good interpretation of the character. I don’t think anyone has done it too bad. It’s pretty much actor proof.
As films about Batman the character they get the Batman right, they make the villains feel plausible too.
It’s the technology that doesn’t really work. Microwave weapons that vapourise water in pipes but not in veins, Nuclear Bombs that magically stop radiating because they are just off the coast.
The barge problem should have been in a Two-Face movie but the solution would be everyone in a made rush to kill each other accidentally defuse the bomb. It was a single moment of mush in a rather nihilistic movie with good design and nice stunts.

adywan said:
i haven’t seen the Blu-rays yet. Many happy holidays spent at Porthmadog when i was a child, each time including a visit to Portmeirion. An amazing place.

I was lucky enough to be able to stay there for five days. Cost a bit but well worth it for a once in a life time thing.

It’s a very different place in the evening when the day trippers have gone home, quite magical.
I’ll never be able to afford such luxury again.

There are two characters that have inspired more cinematic interpretation more than any other. Count Dracula and Sherlock Holmes. They have well defined traits and follow expected patterns of behaviour so in the hands if a skillful writer it can be exciting to have those expectations suberverted. The bad Superman sequences in Superman III sort of touch on this with the fake Kryptonite story strand as a explanation. What Man of Steel does is assume that the tropes of the character are subverted and runs with it with no in universe explanation. It’s like Superman had taken to booze and womanising with no story switch. If done well it would still be questionable because there just aren’t that many Superman films. But it isn’t. So not only is it a bad film it’s a bad Superman film. Hopefully not the first of many.

Weirderer and weirderer.

The situation is created by the writer wanting a film where buildings fall down with no regard to the people inside and where the ‘hero’ snaps the neck of the ‘villain’.

It’s not the sort of film that works with that character.

Supergirl the television series currently has superpowered people landing in the middle of town every other week and always the title character tries to get people out of the way or draw the villain to an isolated spot.

If that’s not possible in the story that’s because the writer doesn’t want it to be possible in the story which is down to the writer not understanding how the character works.
If smashing buildings full of people is the only way to stop the villain how is this person a hero?
He is just another force of nature like the Cloverfield monster, which could make for a good film but not a good Superman film.

In the case of Man of Steel it makes for a rather bewildering mess of a final reel.

Don’t know what happened there cleared the cache since retrying. They are stored on Onedrive which is the method I’ve used to upload images for years. I do hope there isn’t a problem with this method now as it will effect loads of threads.

Can you see them now?

Out of respect for the great man the Bowiecaster now fires bolts in the shape of Jareth the Goblin King :

Also maintain the mystery revelations of the Skywalker family by pixelating every face but Luke’s.

In Superman II Superman realises that the Phantom Zone trio will continue to use his compassion for Humans against him so he draws them away from the City.

In Man of Steel Pseudoman just smashes through whole buildings full of people while trying win against Zod and then gets very upset about snapping Zod’s neck trying to protect 3 people.
Man of Steel throws anything good it has going for it out of the window in the final reel.
It just becomes a Kaleidoscope of CGI destruction with all the emotional investment of a screensaver.

I really enjoyed this one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_the_Sith_Stole_Christmas
The Pink Five ‘trilogy’ is also a must watch.

I thought Brandon’s Superman conveyed the alien nature of Superman.
He is a God raised as a man so he falls in love, worries about a child that might be his (human qualities) but can swim through the air and look through walls (alien).
Man of Steel shows Pseudoman have a fist fight and possibly kill thousands while knocking buildings hither or tither.

Maurice White, 74 :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-35499149

Smithers said: as a child I really liked “Sharkboy and Lavagirl”…

I for one see nothing wrong with this.

Mel Brooks hasn’t made a good film since 1977, ironically.

Batman The Movie (7balls) Silly fun and exactly like the comic was at the time.

The Dark Knight (6balls) A pretty solid movie though I would have kept Dent alive and gave two face a separate film where he did the barge thing (what with his obsession with duality).

The Dark Knight Rises (5balls) Pretty good, The whole surviving a nuke and growing a new spine thing pushes it back into the realm of silliness though.

Batman Begins (5balls) Pretty good, The whole microwave weapon that only works on water in pipes thing pushes it back into the realm of silliness though.

Batman Returns (4balls) Looks amazing, the plot is less confusing than Batman 1989.

Batman Forever (3balls) Kilmer is okay the scene with Dick Grayson playing with laundry was odd, the designs are fun. Actually enjoyed Jim Carrey in this for once though Two-face is rubbish.

Batman (1989) (2.5balls) love Nicholson and some of the designs but the plot is randomly generated and it looks tatty. The batsuit looks really impractical and makes Batman look more comical than menacing. How did the Joker’s men get upstairs in the cathedral? Began the film convention of killing most of the villains which was stupid.

Batman and Robin (2balls) tries to be as campy as Batman the Movie but lacks the charm. Arnie looks good but does his usual Roger Moore pun thing. It’s nowhere near as bad as it’s made out to be though but hardly representative of the comics at that time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RK8Cz-ad44

LuckyGungan2001 said:

Lies

Ryan McAvoy said:

QFT

I thought Ken’s thank-you was essential.
I throws the audience into thinking he might need help going home and shows Ken’s world view to be utterly twisted by his Master’s teachings.
He genuinely find’s Han’s sacrifice to be ‘helpful’ and thanks him sincerly.
That’s really F&*ked Up! In a good way.

TV’s Frink said:

Oh that’s great!

With that in mind FIGHT! :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj8fd1h-MhA