Bingowings

At the risk of showing my signature haughtiness, you are currently using this here internet thing. Let your fingers do the walking to your search engine of choice and type in your locality and “men’s mental health services” or various combinations of the above.
And don’t rule out the Samaritans who despite their name are a faith neutral organisation. They will listen to you non-judgmentally and should be able to point you in the direction of peer support.
If you get stuck PM me and I will let my fingers do the walking for you. The tubby bitches could do with some exercise 😃
While we are on the subject of talking let’s not avoid the biggy.
When I was hospitalised with pneumonia I was plopped onto the respiratory ward. Way wayyyy off in a separate room we old wheezers would have our quality coughing time disturbed by the sound of a man crying out. Naturally I asked what was happening. I managed to get from one of the nurses that a young man in a similar situation to what Warb, myself and you have experienced had had enough and took his mum’s insulin pills.
One thing about the internet is you read forums like this one and people write stuff about how the prequels make them suicidal or how the want to kill themselves because a fan edit is taking too long.
On my way to having a camera shoved into my lung I was wheeled by the guy’s room. He was in his twenties, physically fit, conventionally attractive in normal circumstances but the nurses couldn’t keep the guy still enough to brush his hair or shave his chin. His muscles and tendons were in perpetual tension. He was covered in sweat and the human distress as be screamed touched my soul more than anything I’ve seen before or since.
Talking, it doesn’t solve everything but it does keep the light of life on long enough for the chemistry to change. If that guy had grabbed a phone instead of the wrong pills he would have a chance at a life with good days in it.
I don’t direct this at you in particular but at anyone reading this at any time. Talk about what is on your mind and listen when someone talks about pain.
Health is a road we wander up and down on. This includes mental health. If you find yourself in physical pain you go and tell someone and they help you deal with it. Emotional pain, mental pain, is the same thing.
Help is out there, seek it, use it get better and pass it on.

DuracellEnergizer said:

Emotional turmoil

/əˈmōSH(ə)n(ə)l ˈtərˌmoil/

noun

Learning that the unrequited love of your life is married, has children, and is a semi-professional writer, knowing that you’re happy for her, but realizing now more than ever that she is the perfect woman for you and utterly beyond your ability to obtain.

I’ve disclosed I’ve had some of this sort of thing myself.
Things to remind yourself. Loving someone and falling in love with someone are not the same thing.
The falling in love bit is a chemical biological response. It’s sort of like going a bit mad (note how insanity is a feature of many a love story and love song lyric/poem).
It will get better and it has very little to do with actual life expectations. The sheer number of heterosexual females that would be attracted to you and your own preferences must intersect with a significance that despite your current feelings you must accept rationally. Pure mathematical probability right?
Then comes your proclamation (doubtlessly heart felt) that this lady is the perfect woman for you.
Well that’s clearly not true. She is married with children and a career. Her becoming yours would be devastatingly traumatic for her and as someone who clearly likes her would be unpleasant to experience as you would see yourself as the origin of that disruption. You clearly admire much about her but she isn’t perfect for you. Someone else out there is. It’s a mathematical certainty.
It’s really difficult to remain rational when there is all that chemical stuff happening in your brain.
I recommend forcing yourself out and about, I recommend physical exercise, I recommend going to the Doctor and asking if there is something you are comfortable doing that might calm down those chemically triggered emotions (even if it’s just a really good relaxation group and not a tablet or three).
Finally find a human being who can talk to you with a voice and not just text.
Nothing beats peer support.
Your experience is unique to you but not unique in the world. Men have a terrible record about not actually talking about their feelings.
It will get better no matter how it feels now.

My first encounter with slash fiction was a Obi-Wan/Qui-Gon shipific.
First I thought it was sweet and then it got very specifically detailed. I wondered how did this teenage girl know this sort of stuff? 😄

The strongest romance hint in ANH was Luke and Leia and that ended up queerer than gay.
As for a gay romance not having story consequences look as far as Willow and Tara in Buffy.
Lots of story regardless of no offspring.
Plus these guys could adopt.
Poor Miss Kitty Fantastico 😦

Choose the Force. Choose a brown bath robe. Choose a life of contemplative solitude. Choose not to have a family. Choose a laser sword, choose bleeping robots, airspeeders, stolen data tapes and tractor beam controls. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and being a mentor to the son of the guy you left limbless and slowly cooking on the side of a lava lake. Choose a stupid rat tail mullet for the peak years of your career. Choose a hovel, Choose your friends. Choose mind tricks and matching lies. Choose a trip to Alderaan for almost the price of starship. Choose a rubbish alias and wondering if you ever owned a droid and where you put that lightsaber you pinched off that friend you left for dead. Choose sitting on that commode chair watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing senate and council meetings, stuffing jawa juice down your neck. Choose fading away at the end of it all, pishing your last as a ghost in a swamp, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, freak faced, big eared gnome-thing written into the sequel to replace yourself.

Choose your future.

Choose the Force.

I choose not to choose the Force.

I chose something else. And the reasons? There are no reasons. Who needs reasons when you’ve got death sticks?

10.000 years plus and it shows no signs of going away.
That’s why all the kinky gay stuff and protocol droids are missing from the epic of Gilgamecha

As a gay man I can relate to straight fictional relationships and be perplexed by gay fictional relationships. It does make the Star Wars universe feel more complex and realistic even in it’s fantastic sense. Gay people, unlike darker skinned people are defined by what the do rather than how they look. It’s easier to put more variety of skin tone in front of the camera than sexual/romantic preference. For all we know there may be more gay people in Star Wars than straight. It’s just the straight characters talk on screen about it.

^Hands Solo

DavidMerrick said:
It’s called erasure, wherein the status quo dictates how stories of less represented groups are told, often without said groups’ input or participation.

I have enjoyed music from both groups 😄

I never felt watching John Hurt playing Quentin Crisp was off and when Derek Jacobi played Alan Turing and Francis Bacon I didn’t feel their shared sexual preference helped him get into the mind of a mathematician or a fine artist. It’s called acting.
Neither were actually emperors of Rome.

This is one of the reasons why I find it exhausting going over to the off topic side.
The idea that showing two fictional characters going from friendship to romance is pandering to something and should be avoided. This is the basis for some part of at least 70% of Western culture, the only difference being it’s a girl and guy story arc usually.
Han and Leia start of all sparky and too not into each other to be a coincidence and then they come to admire each other and then they fall in love and get married and have babies who kill them.
That’s life right?
But some books compiled from various sources over thousands of years have a couple of passages saying that an invisible being that created everything doesn’t like something enough that stoning to death is permissible and this means we have to treat people differently in the 21st century and somehow it’s controversial to say that this is questionable??? Even in a fictional setting???
If I question this it’s oh…here we go again…gay man talking about gay things which is why David’s post up the page is so welcome. But I’ve not done the thing (the naughty stone the abomination thing) in the book people get so upset about for a couple of years because I’m in a monogamous relationship.
I don’t live my life watching gay movies or gay television shows or reading gay novels about gay people doing gay things to gay music.
My barber is married to a woman, my boss has a daughter which he contributed making by being very intimate with a woman. Most of the people I know are not gay but I am and a few other people I know are.
There are people I am very friendly with I have no idea what they prefer sexually or romantically. I would not be shocked if I found out they preferred people with red hair or green eyes.
If a fictional man said he preferred people with red hair or green eyes I would be just as not shocked.
Is that pandering to the ginger agenda or the green eyed agenda? Both sets of people historically considered evil BTW.

BobaJett said:

WTF? Strangely though, I kept watching.

^My Biography.

^THIS!!

FrankT said:

WHAT?!?! What do you mean unethical means?! We’re ALL unethical here! There’s gotta be some kind of mistake!

Ethics are codes of behaviour agreed to within a closed group or society. In this regard most of us use this site ethically even if we are being to some degree legally questionable.
Morals are subjective so make your own mind up on that one.

Thanks for the update Jay BTW.
As I thought you had reasons for not disclosing more at the time. Hopefully people feel a little less worried now.

SilverWook said:

I think mirror universe Kira on Deep Space 9 was bisexual.

Alternate universe and kinky evil just underlines the theme.

It was very fashionable for about five minutes to kick up a stink about possibly being gay in Star Wars : The Old Republic. This week it’s this thing. https://www.facebook.com/StarWarsDailyNews/posts/504142613124336?comment_id=504989423039655&notif_t=share_reply
I’m so glad we got this out of our system in Babylon 5, Buffy, Doctor Who, almost every DC superhero show on air now, a few Marvel ones but not Star Trek (unless the gay giant jellyfish count) http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Star-Trek-TNG-on-BluRay-confirmed/id/13387/page/6 or Star Wars.
It might just clear the air if we had loads of female non-Caucasian characters humping each other (off screen…please… someone think of the children) regardless of gender (I’m aware of the paradox). Just to balance out the first few episodes (Beru, Leia and Mon Mothma and transgender Rebel Pilot v a whole galaxy).
Ideally fictional people would be people with variety relative to audience experience.
Caprica had a gay couple and multi-partner marriages and it never got in the way of the plot anything like the fanboys complaining about the low number of splosions.

The only reason I paid for the Star Wars Blu-ray set was to watch Adywan’s Revenge of the Sith (I may live that long) and Harmy’s reconstructions with a slightly musky but mostly clean conscience. I doubt if I will ever watch the main features on that set. That’s why Frink happens.

SilverWook said:

All this speculation is not helping.

It’s what happens when an announcement of this kind isn’t conclusively detailed. And I say this with all due respect to Jay who may be constrained or reluctant to give a conclusively detailed account. Harmy has used TN1 footage in his reconstructions, other people have used Harmy’s reconstructions as the basis of shots in their edits. Unless people know in detail what happened they will speculate if only out of anxiety over their own projects or position in the edit/preservation community.

Other spam posts of yesteryear could become the crawl for Episodes V through to IX
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/New-user-bubalove/id/10491

http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/tv-bracket-is-UKs-top-brand-for-tv-brackets/id/11385

http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/YESTERDAY-WAS-A-LIE-featuring-PETER-MAYHEW-coming-soon-to-DVD/id/11368

Greedo: [In Huttese; subtitled] Hello Dear My name is Miss blessing
i saw your profile today at (originaltrilogy.com) and became intrested in you,
Han Solo: Yes, Greedo. I was just going to see your boss. Tell Jabba I’ve got his money.
Greedo: will also like to know you the more,and i want you to send an email to my email address so i can give you my picture for you to know whom i am.
Hered is my email address, (bubablessing@yahoo.com)
Han Solo: Yeah, but this time I’ve got the money.
Greedo: I believe we can move from here!
Han Solo: [stealthily going for his blaster] I don’t have it with me. Tell Jabba…
Greedo: I am waiting for your mail to my email address above.
Han Solo: Even I get boarded sometimes. Do you think I had a choice?
Greedo: blessing.
Han Solo: Over my dead body!
Greedo: (Remeber the distance or colour does not matter but love matters alot in life).
Han Solo: Yeah, I’ll bet you have.
[Han blasts Greedo, then heads out, tossing the bartender a coin]
Han Solo: Sorry about the mess.

Darn I was too late to deploy my Julie Waters meme :

SilverWook said:

Doesn’t that beg the question of why the droids are hiding out in a restroom though? 😉

you meen they are … ?

Tell them the PT looks newer because they happened first, it’s the sort of logic a 10 year old might get behind.

Well, the internet is what gives a Jedi his power. It’s an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us and penetrates us; it binds the galaxy together.

Tobar said:

I love the way Indiana’s hat blocks off the letter S in “Soap” so the sign becomes the acronym for an Old Aged Pensioner.

You could use the sound from the Auralnauts Bane skits.
They are amateur works so you wouldn’t have to own the films to use sounds off of them (might be nice to ask first though).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkMPZ7WeDck