Not so much an improvement but something I would like to experience as a curio would be having the unused musical cues put back and properly timed to match the scenes.
Don’t get me wrong the opening of the Vader/Luke duel works really well without the score but the unused score for the scene is referenced in the score for the cave scene, this is emphasised by the angled shapes of the corridor at the back of the cave which is similar to the cloud city chamber later referenced in TFA so I’d like to see a version with those cues returned but it might not actually improve anything.

imperialscum said:

Handman said:

You can’t handle the truth.

I AM the truth…

Obvious Bingowings sock was obvious

Welcome back Mr Bler

Still loving STD 😆

The Ryan Reynolds Green Lantern movie is ripe… With potential. The opening monologue could be spliced into Obi wan explaining Anakin, the death Star could be powered by harnessing the powers of parallax. He could survive to be snoke. Luke could dimly remember his father being an American fighter pilot.

Anakin Starkiller said:

Apparently, an earlier script of RotJ had Vader as the other. That would have been a perfect way to wrap things up.

No that was my idea.

YodaFan67 said:

Jackpumpkinhead said:

I don’t think I agree with any of the camo-trooper talk here. I mean we didn’t really see any sand camo-troopers on tatooine, or snow camo-troopers on Ho…oh, never mind.

But in all seriousness, why make any of them camoflouged just because you can. I mean, isn’t that the kind of stuff most of you guys here hate about the SE, that Lucas just added crap because he could. Updating SFX, and correcting continuity errors etc. is one thing, but adding stuff to the movie just to cram it in there is superfluous IMHO.

It turns out, some people are okay with “special editions” after all, as long as it’s them shoving in the extra CGI density.

The prime issue people have with the many official special editions are they are now the only versions we can legally buy on current standard equipment. The most current versions are the only official ones. The other problem is that as special editions all of them have problems like adding vulgar jarring visuals and creating new continuity problems. Reconstructions like Harmy’s address the first problem. Edits like Ady’s address the second.

Camouflage for the droids makes sense. The rebels camouflage themselves and then bring a gold reflective fusspot with lamps for eyes.

DuracellEnergizer said:

I’m sick and I’m tired of being broke and being useless and being alone. I want things to change – I want to move out, I want to get a job, I want to meet a lovely, vivacious, spiritual lady who will complete me – but there’s no one in my life to help me and I don’t know how to help myself. I feel trapped, isolated, and empty.

I can highly recommend volunteering in some capacity. It’s been scientifically measured with happiness tape that helping others makes you healthier, mentally and physically. It can grow skills and help you network with the sort of people looking for paid employees. You might meet that special someone doing whatever you end up doing but be wary of seeing others as your source of completion. You complete you. It’s a you that’s comfortable within yourself that attracts the interest of others. You don’t have to be conceited to be authentic and sincere. Just be and apply yourself.

It started quite innocent enough, someone with zero malicious intent put up a picture of Warb with a beard, which Warb took very personally. ABC didn’t get the extent of the upset so when he posted the Jupiter picture a few of us behind the scenes tried to convince him to take it down knowing the effect it would have. Warb is a kind hearted person. He has his own MO which took me a while to get my head around. Working around people with very diverse ways of seeing things has changed my outlook on people in general. ABC believe it or not was a similarly differently constructed mind. He privately was mortified that he had created the upset he had. It’s very sad really. He couldn’t put the lid back on once that particular bottle was uncorked. I think he accidentally banned himself in the end when Moth3r shut down the last sock.

darth_ender said:

ABC was long ago. His behavior was largely before my time, and I only knew him when he returned as a sock called XyZ. He laid low for a while, but once his former identity was revealed, he resumed the same rudeness he had previously displayed toward Warbler (I remember him making his avatar with Warbler’s face in a Catholic priest’s robes in mockery–I believe this was why Warbler changed his avatar to no longer show his face). This didn’t last long before he was banned again. I mostly know of his behavior based on subsequent conversation.

Darth Id was rude for a very long time to many posters, including me. I remember getting worked up at one point, but learned to just mostly ignore his sophomoric humor. However, he fixated on Warbler and knew he could get a rise out of him. He was always just obnoxious enough to hurt Warbler, but he was cautious not to go so far as to get in trouble. He was pretty clever, but he needed to go. I believe the new rule changes were part of that.

Generalfrevious was not rude to Warbler. He was just annoying with all his doomsday exaggeration.

ABC did contribute quite a bit to the preservation sections of the forum but yeah lots of socks. The image of Warb was him depicted as Jupiter. It was an OTT response to what Warb was saying at the time and many of us were working behind the scenes to get him to calm down and back off. I think it was the sock activity that did for him in the end.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-gay-sacked-fired-offence-homosexuality-doj-justice-department-a7969601.html

And Pilate in Jesus Christ Superstar.

NeverarGreat said:

Why not both?

Have the Emperor simply say ‘An entire legion awaits them’, and also beef up the battle so it looks like a legion of Stormtroopers.

His over confidence is his weakness, Palpatine would not be able to resist boasting.

I’m a Divinyls fan.

I was just going to say no… But now you mention it, Phil’s version of You Can’t Hurry Love could add bathos to the Luke, Leia romance.

I add my wishes to Warb’s. Like Warb my dad passed a little earlier than most, I’m rapidly approaching the age my dad was when he got ill so I wish everyone on here and their loved ones the lengthiest and healthiest of lives.

Everything. A hole in one leads to smugness, smugness leads to impulse purchases, impulse purchases lead to action figures… I sense much action figures in you 😉

It happened. It’s the least offensive ROTJ end it quick move. Retroactively it even makes more sense than Luke being Vader’s son, Leia being Vader’s daughter explains her reckless attempt to save Han while being a Rebel leader with sensitive intel during a crucial period of the war. It explains all the choking. Compared to Yoda’s death scene and Luke’s plan to save Han it’s nothing really. It’s a shame we don’t seem to be getting anything interesting come of it particularly now Carrie has died. Leia would have made a wonderful villain.

As the man in the background with the long neck he is clearly there. Like the love guru with the long tail and the guy with the horns or Mr Dinosaurus. As the EU character with the potentially mildly offensive name, I’m going to stick my neck out here and say I couldn’t really give a monkeys. He doesn’t speak, he barely moves his canon status is up there with 4-LOM but he doesn’t look as interesting.

chyron8472 said:

Bingowings said:

pittrek said:

I’ve seen the first episode. I loved the first part and hated the second half. By the way this might be the first Star Trek lead I absolutely hate, she belongs to jail, why is she a hero?

She was right.
She correctly assessed the situation and did everything she could to prevent the conflict.
If Kirk did this it would be typical Kirk stuff and we would all be patting him on the back for disrespecting the chain of command as usual.

But Kirk is the captain, and TOS is incredibly cheesy, so over-the-top is expected. Plus, we have had enough time with Kirk and his crew to assess their personality. Meanwhile, this is the pilot episode of Discovery. We know very little about this crew; why they act the way they do; why they distrust and bicker with each other, et al.

The captain may have made a bad decision, but she’s the captain. It’s her call. It doesn’t matter if the first officer was right and ignoring her would get everyone killed. That’s not how a command structure works.

This is not TOS. In TOS, the characters are endearing. Plus, to have a mutiny now is like having “The Menagerie” two-parter be the actual TOS pilot, including the parts where Spock mutinied (not just “The Cage” bits). If that were the pilot, why do we know anything about Spock? Why would we care? Does Spock do this all the time? Is it normal on a starship for people to mutiny? Or it could be like if The Best of Both Worlds was the TNG pilot. Cmdr. Shelby went over Riker’s head, straight to the captain when Riker disagreed with her, and Riker called her on it. Is Riker always like this? Is Shelby? Is this normal?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOnC0dgHNDA&t=1m28s <-- I mean seriously, imagine this episode is the TNG pilot. It would give a whole different vibe to the characters.

It’s too early in the Discovery characters’ development onscreen to have this drama because we don’t have a baseline for what is supposed to be normal for this crew in interacting with each other.

You asked why she was the protagonist. Kirk was a captain but he frequently disobeyed the chain of command and was the ‘hero’ of the piece. I think all of the main protagonists have adopted this mode.

DuracellEnergizer said:

ray_afraid said:

No, no, no… He’s got four lightsabers, silly.
(if that’s not what’s happening there, I have no idea what is)

SPOILERS

He’s firing a blaster in rapid succession.

The Droid fired first.

pittrek said:

I’ve seen the first episode. I loved the first part and hated the second half. By the way this might be the first Star Trek lead I absolutely hate, she belongs to jail, why is she a hero?

She was right.
She correctly assessed the situation and did everything she could to prevent the conflict. Her Captain didn’t listen to her and put her in the brig.
She correctly gauged that killing the Klingon leader would create a martyr that would unite the Empire against the Federation and the Captain screwed up again. If Kirk did this it would be typical Kirk stuff and we would all be patting him on the back for disrespecting the chain of command as usual.