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#1116311
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Last Movie You Can't Unsee
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DuracellEnergizer said:

I’m indifferent to Aliens.

Perhaps if the film was made in the same horror vein as Alien and the Alien Queen looked like this I’d feel differently, but it wasn’t and she doesn’t, so I don’t.

I like the design of the queen but it undermines the mystery and threat of the organism. In the original concept any egg could result in any organism with a face big enough to be humped getting the whole population converted to eggs to renew the cycle. It just takes one. The queen with her lovely high heeled dancer legs. Makes the first film seem kind of pointless unless the first Alien could become a queen over time. Hive structures are too terrestrial a thing anyway. Parasitical interspecies, gender nonspecific rape as reproduction is horror perfected. It muddied the water adding a hierarchical structure to them.

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#1116307
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Last Movie You Can't Unsee
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ChainsawAsh said:

Bingowings said:

ChainsawAsh said:

Bingowings said:

moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

Handman said:

I wish I never had to sit through any of the Alien sequels/prequels.

Oh come on.

Until visiting this site, I didn’t know that there was a single person on earth that disliked Aliens. I’m still considering the possibility that everyone who claims to dislike Aliens is actually lying.

I like Aliens, it’s quotable, it’s got great action sequences but boy is it overrated, not as overrated as the truly awful T2

WHAT?!?!

T2 is a long drawn out pointless remake of the first film that actively undermines everything the superior first film did. The ending is nonsensical too and the cheesy humour. T2 is, in its own way as bad as any of the other sequels. And like all the other sequels it’s got some good bits in it but I could live without them just to erase it and remember the original film as the only film in the series. I like the Sarah Coral Coracles though.

Everyone I know acts like I’m a weirdo for thinking T1 is a better movie, but damn it, T2 is still 8/10 at least!

I know it’s popular and has for its day ground breaking special effects but it’s just so awful for me I would give it 4/10 for the fantastic nuclear nightmare scene which I watched during the Soviet military coup so it added a piquancy. The whole thing is nonsensical. The tone shatters everytime humour is deployed. The monologues are tedious. The kid playing John is even more annoying than Carrie Henn (maybe if they hooked up in later life she could give birth to that sound polystyrene makes when rubbed against itself). It has as much narrative logic as Attack of the Clones. You have a machine that can adopt any human shape including clothes, after sampling that person (and presumably their clothes). How does that work? Genetic mimicking? Do clothes have a genetic structure? Does it have a data base of all clothing? Assuming that it has to adopt a default shape for cinematic reasons (so the audience knows when the Terminator is around) why would the liquid Terminator show this default to its prey? It undermines it’s entire purpose. Then you have the ending. In the first film it’s made clear that changes to the timeline have consequences. Reese and the original Terminator both assume this and this informs every action they take. So destroying the original chip, the work derived from it and the Terminators should result in Sarah never meeting Reese, never conceiving John and returning to being the woman she might have been if the first film never happened. But it doesn’t. So if we have John from a divergent universe and a divergent Kyle is his father Judgement day still happened for him. Which calls into question their entire reason for doing anything. They saved a world but not the one Kyle and the Terminators came from. Presumably there are countless worlds where the Terminators succeed and justify the other equally flawed sequels. Each one being a threat to her and her son. Maybe she should have patched up the cyborg bodyguard as all manner of Rick and Mortyness is now possible. This is why I like the television show. That admiration aside, I just love the closed loop of the first film. The consistent tone. The perfect bleakness of the ending. All the sequels are like really well made fan films. How someone can slag off Terminator 4 and defend T2 mystifies me. Nostalgia must play a part. I have similar problems with Return of the Jedi. When I say it’s almost as bad as the Prequels people act like one of my other heads are showing.

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#1116167
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Last Movie You Can't Unsee
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ChainsawAsh said:

Bingowings said:

moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

Handman said:

I wish I never had to sit through any of the Alien sequels/prequels.

Oh come on.

Until visiting this site, I didn’t know that there was a single person on earth that disliked Aliens. I’m still considering the possibility that everyone who claims to dislike Aliens is actually lying.

I like Aliens, it’s quotable, it’s got great action sequences but boy is it overrated, not as overrated as the truly awful T2

WHAT?!?!

T2 is a long drawn out pointless remake of the first film that actively undermines everything the superior first film did. The ending is nonsensical too and the cheesy humour. T2 is, in its own way as bad as any of the other sequels. And like all the other sequels it’s got some good bits in it but I could live without them just to erase it and remember the original film as the only film in the series. I like the Sarah Coral Coracles though.

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#1116154
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STAR WARS EPISODE I: Dawn of War (Old Version) (* unfinished project *)
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snooker said:

Bingowings said:

That’s a great backstory, however that’s not something I see happening in my edit.

In 1977, all of the backstory that people needed was that some rebels stole some plans. That was it. I don’t want viewers to have to read a few paragraphs of backstory before starting up the movie. I want all the viewer needs to know to be in the crawl, which would mention the Separatist Alliance, the Republic, and two Jedi rescuing the queen.

Also, 3PO and R2 contribute nothing to the plots of any of the movies. They are fan service for fan service’s sake (in my opinion)

The backstory in 1977 was the Clone Wars, the fall of the Jedi, the betrayal by Darth Vader, the murder of Luke’s dad. And a battle where secret plans were transmitted to Leia’s ship. There is a huge back story underpinning that simple tale. For the prequels (which mostly tell that story) you need a new back story. Who is Palpatine, what are these Sith and why do they want revenge? Why is the Republic falling to pieces? Why do the Federation want this particular planet (there are probably billions of them in the Star Wars galaxy)? The present springs from the past. You need a more compelling past for these films. And a more simple present. The droids aren’t just fan service. They are the Greek chorus. They need to be there but doing something that makes sense. IMHO

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#1116152
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Last Movie You Can't Unsee
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moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

Handman said:

I wish I never had to sit through any of the Alien sequels/prequels.

Oh come on.

Until visiting this site, I didn’t know that there was a single person on earth that disliked Aliens. I’m still considering the possibility that everyone who claims to dislike Aliens is actually lying.

I like Aliens, it’s quotable, it’s got great action sequences but boy is it overrated, not as overrated as the truly awful T2 but I can see why some people would prefer to keep their memory of the first film free of Carrie Henn’s terrible acting and the screams. It’s easily as overrated as Alien 3 is underrated.

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#1116081
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STAR WARS EPISODE I: Dawn of War (Old Version) (* unfinished project *)
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I wish you all the success in the world. The prequels exist and there are some nice designs and a few okay performance moments but they are are not the films we were promised around 1980.

I still think the logical progression for this story is to have the Queen on Coruscant and hear of the invasion. Then voyage back to rescue her people. It knocks all the events into the same sort of simple linear progression that worked so well on the first film.

I’d also have Yoda mentioned but not seen. Have him like Jabba was in the theatrical OT build him up to be a big thing when Obi-Wan’s ghost mentions him in ESB. Also cutting Artoo and Threepio is probably an error. They are the baton that’s passed down through this saga. Threepio’s origins are stupid in the original version but Artoo makes sense. Having Threepio a translator droid on either the Queen’s ship or the Fed’s ship and removing him from Anakin’s childhood seems the way to go.

Also the Federation need a more tangible reason to want this planet. I suggested some time ago that before joining the Republic the Feds owned the planet and were forced to relinquish it as one of their stipulations for joining. So you have the Gungans who venerated the Feds as Gods being resentful of the humans on the planet who liberated them and stole their cargo cult religion from them.

With the Republic becoming more divided and weak the Viceroy sees a chance to prop up his own power by reclaiming an old colony (see Londo Mollari for details). He cuts a deal with the Sith to sort out the legal situation not seeing the bigger picture.

The Prequels are the backstory of the original trilogy so for them to work they need their own backstory. The current one is just not rich enough and it percolates this weakness through all the comprimised elements of these films.

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#1115379
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The Anyone (formerly Vampire) Sharing Counting Thread (was The Count's Counting Threat).
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Queen Katrina says :


The Concorde made life a lot easier, and I was the symbol of a Concorde crowd that had replaced the jet set. I flew on the Concorde so many times I knew the pilots. I knew their families. I could have flown the plane, except I would have wanted to do it naked, sprayed silver, in roller skates. I’ve lost count… COUNT!

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#1115377
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Detention Block AA-23 : The OT.com's Banned Members...
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The Amazing Criswell predicts :

Ladies and Gentlemen of the future.

It will be revealed to you in the space year 1987 that all media purporting to be fiction is in reality news from the real world outside of the virtual realm in which you live your tiny and insignificant lives.

In 2016 a talent show host and many times bankrupt real estate salesman will be the second president of the United States of America who is not Caucasian. He will be bright orange.