We’d all be better off if Jodorowsky’s Dune was made instead of Star Wars. Even Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson, as they’d no longer be the weirdest writers associated with the franchise.
FrederikOlsen said:
It’s never been a particularly well-written franchise, IMO.ANH is considered one of the best scripts ever written. It’s still being studied in film school for ts achievements, thanks to Lucas rewitting it to perfect it numberous times. TESB is simply the continuation of this high quality standard rooted in the foundation of a perfect script. Only what came after wasn’t as good and was sometimes even quite terrible, such as this tv show.
The original Star Wars was saved in editing by cutting great chunks out of that script.
Speaking of esoteric scripts, I wish somebody adapted Dan Aykroyd’s original Ghostbusters script into a graphic novel. The bits we do know about it sound batshit crazy (in a good way) and I’d love to see the whole thing presented to the public with appropriate visuals.
I’m one of like, fifteen people who like Nothing But Trouble so I’d love any crazy Dan Aykroyd project.
I like the idea of Vader essentially being an upper management figure in the Empire, going from system to system and making sure shit is running up to code. By ANH, he’s so bored out of his mind about his position that he relishes the thought of finding the rebel who destroyed the Death Star (now that Kenobi is in his rearview). Luke being his son is just a bonus, as for the first time since the Clone Wars, Vader has felt truly alive.
Yes, I watched the auralnauts series and I consider it the best fan series about the saga. Now if only Creepio’s voice actor could voice 000…
This is something I put together in the other Kenobi redux thread, just in case it could be relevant to this project in some way:
I was one of those suckers who was actually really excited for Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022) because Deborah Chow and Kelley DIxon’s work on Better Call Saul and Breaking Bad fuckin’ rule. Needless to say, that was a bit misguided.
I don’t think I’m going to do the whole show, but it was just a fun little experiment. The edit isn’t supposed to be like BB/BCS fwiw, just approaching the material with some of the storytelling philosophy I learned from them.
At the very least, Deborah Chow’s sensibilities as a director were still conducive to being arranged in this way so at least some of my excitement wasn’t unfounded
Well, I’d say you nailed it here! It’d be nice when paired with your New Canon Cut (I still see it as the definitive ROTS).
I’ve been burnt out on live-action fiction (especially new tv fiction) since college, so I mostly stick to documentaries. Things like Dark Side of the Ring, the less-sensationalized true crime stuff on Netflix, and YouTube features on music/random topics (I recommend Down the Rabbit Hole and Atrocity Guide) are my favorites.
I don’t think I’m the target audience, but Kenobi as it aired was a 75/100 to me. Fine, but I’d never seek it out again. A fan edit could bring it to an 85 or an 87, but I wouldn’t give it more.
Heck, any fan with reasonable money can fake an anamorphic look (proper anamorphic, not just cropping to 2:39:1) and using 35mm film stock these days. There are anamorphic lenses and filters on the market, along with real 35mm grain plates in all the desired resolutions.
I’m more a fan of 16mm faking myself. If Kenobi had gone for a more fake-16mm look (including a 1:78:1 or 1:66:1 AR), it might’ve sold me a bit more on the cinematography and the rougher feeling.
I’ll also be providing high-strength edibles.
Randy Feltface is one of my favorite comedians.
Anybody mind if I offer a joint to anybody who feels they need it after reading this thread? I’m not a good roller, but I’m trying.
I wonder if it might be the worst thing that ever happened in Star Wars canon.
The Chuck Wendig books exist.
So in movie/tv media then.
Nope, that’s still AOTC, the Ewok movies, BOBF, or TROS, depending on how a person is feeling that day.
Don’t forget the Holiday Special.
I find it charmingly bad, in a way that only something produced in the late-'70s could be. Plus, it has a funny Rifftrax (Mike > Joel).
Ewok movies aren’t canon.
AOTC is way better the Ben show…
And at least TROS was dumb but funny because so dumb. BOBF is just inconsequential. I don’t mind as it doesn’t fuck up important characters of the Saga.
But I think you’re intensely overselling how much Kenobi “fucked up” characters (I rather like all the steps it took with the characters, albeit some executions could’ve been better than others), but that’s just me.
Also, AOTC is much worse than “the Ben show” because at least the Ben show didn’t make its female lead look like an enabler (which AOTC made Padme out to be). It also didn’t ruin a character’s redemption by making them look like an unhinged jerk. But once again, it’s just my opinion.
I wonder if it might be the worst thing that ever happened in Star Wars canon.
The Chuck Wendig books exist.
So in movie/tv media then.
Nope, that’s still AOTC, the Ewok movies, BOBF, or TROS, depending on how a person is feeling that day.
I wonder if it might be the worst thing that ever happened in Star Wars canon.
The Chuck Wendig books exist.
Is this the k.k. Garbage people keep saying about the Star Wars she does or is that hyperbole?
What are you talking about?
Just ignore it, it’s a guy poorly trying to lead the discourse off-topic.
TCW S6 explicitly states he couldn’t manifest phisically.
But then he learned later on, which doesn’t sound that far-fetched to me.
I’m not even the biggest fan of the scene in Kenobi, as the wig looks dusty and Liam looks like he’s mourning the flop of his latest movie.
And hadn’t it already been established that Qui-Gon couldn’t appear “in the flesh” because he hadn’t completed his training before he died? I’m sure this was explained in one of the cartoons.
The 2017 book From a Certain Point of View showed that Qui-Gon had learned to appear in the flesh by ANH (but it took a lot of effort to do so). All the show changes is that Jinn knew how to appear in the flesh a decade before it happened in the book.
So they have altered canon yet again just for a few seconds fanwank? Jeez
Not really? Nothing in the book says that Jinn couldn’t have done it a decade earlier (it doesn’t imply that his 0 BBY appearance is as the first time). Besides, there’s nothing that says that a force spirit can’t learn to physically manifest if they couldn’t before.
The book messed it up first, if one takes a negative view of the physical Jinn ghost.
And hadn’t it already been established that Qui-Gon couldn’t appear “in the flesh” because he hadn’t completed his training before he died? I’m sure this was explained in one of the cartoons.
The 2017 book From a Certain Point of View showed that Qui-Gon had learned to appear in the flesh by ANH (but it took a lot of effort to do so). All the show changes is that Jinn knew how to appear in the flesh a decade before it happened in the book.
I find that Crow-style flashbacks completely break with how Star Wars stories are told through all eras, especially in the OT. If it’s a vision Luke has in the deleted scene cave, it’d be a bit better. Having a vision scene in the opening of ROTJ would also be a better place for Luke to learn Anakin’s name (instead of Obi-Wan just dropping it with no fanfare).
It’s okay in my book. I didn’t hate it, but I just couldn’t mentally justify rating it higher than a 6/10. I get why people despise it, and I get why people like it. I’m glad you’re not using elements from it, especially since it’d just cheapen the look of the OT to include insertions/references.
Speaking of that, what’s the plan for Kenobi’s hut now - a new model/matte, the '77 hut, or the '97 hut/digital matte?
This may be the most nitpicky request ever, but would it be possible to make the saber ignition noises consistent? As in, Obi-Wan’s blade always makes the ANH noise, Vader’s makes the ESB red noise, etc.
As far as wig quality goes for the finale, Qui-Gon’s looks kinda rough. Did the Lucasfilm Archives just pull out the old TPM piece without washing or brushing it?
Now that a certain show has aired it’s finale, I’ve got an itch to see Qui-Gon and Leia (to balance things out) added to the Jhon ghost version of the finale.
I’d like to imagine her just getting stranded on Malachor and living off of the land until a mining ship happened to land there during the events of ROTJ (as in, within days of the DSII blowing up). It doesn’t seem like that place is frequently visited by spacefarers and there probably aren’t hyperspace-capable ships near her.
I think he wanted to post it in the Random Thoughts Thread, but he got the wrong thread.
Yes, that’s the case. My B.
Also, I’m not implying that about all PT Anakin fans. I’m implying it about one guy who went out of his way to defend that one scene and say things like “could you imagine the guts it would take to do that?”.