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BedeHistory731

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#1497727
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The Unpopular Film, TV, Music, Art, Books, Comics, Games, & Technology Opinion Thread (for all you contrarians!)
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John Boorman really sells Zardoz short. Yeah, it’s very clearly not his best work, but it has such a cool vision to it. The film also reflects so much of early-‘70s Sexual Revolution thinking from various perspectives. Even when the movie is being bizarre, it’s bizarre in a fascinating way, which is more than I can say for a lot of bad art house films (e.g., The Jar).

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#1497697
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Community Focus Thread 1: The Phantom Menace
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SpenceEdit said:

G&G-Fan said:

I think it’d be great to have an edit that just has the gungans speak in an alien language instead. Their speech is just so annoying and hard to understand. And besides when you have them have an alien language and then subtitle them you can make them say whatever you want.

Is there a language that the movie has been dubbed in that isn’t immediately identifiable? Because that could work. But if they obviously are speaking Russian or French it kind of falls apart.

Would Hungarian (a real “odd duck” within central/eastern European languages) be a good alien language for the Gungans? That is, of course, if we have a Hungarian dub of the PT.

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#1497672
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RocketJump's Video on Star Wars &quot;being saved in the edit&quot; is Literally a Lie <em>(*no, it is not)</em>
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SparkySywer said:

I didn’t even see that the body of the post was edited. Really uncool. Even if this post was downright intentionally spreading misinformation, it shows a severe lack of maturity and restraint in the mod team on OT.com to treat it this way. This is an argument over space movies where they say “Nerf herder”. It isn’t so dangerous as to warrant this kind of treatment.

Oojason could really be an overzealous mod. I liked the guy, but he could have power trip moments. Look at what happened to Chainsawash, for instance.

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#1497527
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The 'Naysayer Guide’ by people who DON'T want an unaltered theatrical release of the OT
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Servii said:

Edit: I almost forgot about StarWarsTheory. He’s an interesting case. He seems like a decent guy. I think he just wants really badly to keep on being a Star Wars fan and keep getting excited for new Star Wars. But the sequel trilogy kind of broke him, which is why he seems so conflicted a lot of the time. (He even gave TRoS a positive review at first.)

He associates with too much of the “bad” group for me to like him. I don’t think he’s a decent guy at all. The bad group is part of the alt-right pipeline, using geek culture to radicalize young men. That “bad group” deserves to be shunned by the fandom, but Theory likes to keep their company.

HelloGreedo and Star Wars Explained are the only ones worth a damn, I find. Before you want to call SWE a shill, remember that he didn’t like TROS that much.

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#1497506
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The 'Naysayer Guide’ by people who DON'T want an unaltered theatrical release of the OT
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Servii said:

It really hasn’t. And you shouldn’t feel like you have to defend Disney Star Wars in order to be seen as on the “right side of history.”

I would say that when a decent enough percentage of negative reviews mention idpol stuff, it has. Also, when you have people like Geeks + Gamers, TheQuartering, YellowFlash, CriticalDrinker, Star Wars Girl, Mauler, and others on the dislike side, it’s unfortunately become that. The reasonable complaints get drowned out.

And I actually like the ST. Well, fanedits of the ST. Quite frankly, I need fanedits to watch any post-ESB movie in the franchise. But I did enjoy the base ST more than the base PT!

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#1497500
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The 'Naysayer Guide’ by people who DON'T want an unaltered theatrical release of the OT
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Servii said:

Fuck the Lucas Zealots

Take it easy. I don’t like what he’s saying either, but his is very much a minority opinion, even among Lucas fans.

Didn’t Stardust say similar things, albeit in more eloquent/long-winded terms?

And I don’t see what Vic Mignogna or identity politics has to do with this, either. This isn’t a culture war we’re talking about here.

It’s more evidence that he’s an idiot. Like it or not, Star Wars and most of “nerd culture” is part of the larger culture war. Liking or disliking the ST has unfortunately become a good barometer for such “sides” in the culture war.

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#1496346
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What was the exact process of creating the special editions?
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DrDre said:

BedeHistory731 said:

DrDre said:

The 2004 release was based of a 2K scan of the negative, while the 2019 release is based on a 4K scan done in 2012.

I always thought that the 2004/2011 “HD Branch” was a 1080p scan, as horrifying as that may sound.

The final master was 1080p, but the scan itself was 2K according to someone who worked on it.

Ah, that makes sense.

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#1495022
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Star Wars Headcanons
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RogueLeader said:

I could imagine citizens of the galaxy whispering amongst themselves one of his nicknames, Prince of Ashes.

“Prince of the Asteroids” would also be a potential nickname, probably in a timeline where Ben didn’t turn.

The whole thing reminds me of DBZ Abridged’s bit where Vegeta “the Prince of All Saiyans” experiences great euphoria upon being called “King Vegeta” for the first time. I guess he remains a prince out of respect for his father (who was also a “King Vegeta”)?

But back to headcanons - Qui-Gon learned the trick of becoming “one with the force” from traveling to ancient Jedi strongholds in the unknown regions during his knighthood (maybe Ach-To even). These readings and studies are why he doesn’t play along with the council and what he hoped to teach Obi-Wan and Anakin. He didn’t learn how to become a ghost fully until several decades into his time with the force, so that’s why he only starts taking physical form during Kenobi. His limited ability to become physical is also why he looks older and why his beard looks like a cheap fake.

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#1494982
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Icons Unearthed - new 6 part documentary on the OT (VICE)
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adywan said:

After seeing the second episode, they have basically cut Gary Kurtz. The only brief times they mention him it’s negative. NO mention of the fact that he took over the second unit to direct many scenes in order to get the film finished on time before the studio pulled the plug. They just portray him as this “looming” figure who couldn’t control anything. Yet people who actually worked on the film have said the opposite and have been quite unhappy with the way he was portrayed in the first episode. God knows how they will feel after this second one.

Well that sucks.

We do now know about the different cuts of the film . It is said in this doc that the Biggs/ Luke scenes were cut very early on and BEFORE the rough screening George did for his friends ( De Palma, Spielberg etc) AND long BEFRORE ANY PUBLIC SCREENING. It seems that , for the one and only public screening prior to release, the only difference was the opening crawl. So all those people that have been claiming they saw a cut in the cinema that contained these scenes, are either flat out lying or completely misremembering.

Like, I fully expected some lying and exaggeration in Dark Side of the Ring. The wrestlers interviewed were all some variety of carny, guys who try to tell exciting and questionable stories for a living. Many are also pretty brain-damaged from concussions, so it makes sense they’d misremember.

I guess there’s not much of a difference between network-produced documentaries and carnie entertainment.

It’s been interesting hearing just how much influence Marcia had on this film, finally. The fact that George let De Palmas comments about the force get to him and George started re-cutting the film to eliminate much of the force , with marcia going behind his back and adding them all back in. George worshippers won’t be happy with this doc though.

Part of me thinks this was a condition that Marcia had for agreeing to do the documentary. It had to paint her in as favorable a light as possible for it to work.

This isn’t entirely uncommon in documentary filmmaking. Look at Vice’s own “Last of the Von Erichs” or FMW episode of Dark Side of the Ring if you want a thorough display of interviewee-influenced misinterpretation.

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#1494161
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The Random <em>Star Wars</em> Pics &amp; GIFs Thread
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Servii said:

STK is good for how much it tries to call out all the jerks who have ruined the Star Wars fandom and is a safe space for people to like the sequels without being yelled at or belittled.

So, criticizing the prequels is all well and good, but criticizing the sequels is “ruining the fandom”? The vast majority of Star Wars subs are largely positive about the whole franchise. It’s not like sequel fans are some oppressed minority.

It’s more or less calling out the Geeks+Gamers, Mauler, TheQuartering, Star Wars Theory, etc. part of the “fandom” that simply want to grift and enable grifters. Like it or not, they exist and make the whole fandom look bad. Besides, STK isn’t all that OK with prequel criticism (except for the people who miss the points of those movies).

Also, pro-sequel content gets downvoted a lot on the main subreddit, most of r/prequelmemes is “sequels bad” content, and grift content is still pumped out on the regular on YouTube. Being an ST fan is like being a PT fan back in the '00s. The difference is that a wider spread of social media avenues makes it seem louder and angrier.

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#1494159
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The Random <em>Star Wars</em> Pics &amp; GIFs Thread
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Servii said:

BedeHistory731 said:

Servii said:

BedeHistory731 said:

scums

The Mauler subreddit also works for this.

SaltierThanKrayt is worse, though.

I think it, StarWarsCantina, and MawInstallation are the only worthwhile places to talk Star Wars on reddit.

I haven’t been on StarWarsCantina lately, but MawInstallation is pretty decent.

MawInstallation and DaystromInstitute have always been safe havens away from fandom BS for their respective franchises. I like a subreddit where just posting memes will get you banned.

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#1494157
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The Random <em>Star Wars</em> Pics &amp; GIFs Thread
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Servii said:

BedeHistory731 said:

scums

The Mauler subreddit also works for this.

SaltierThanKrayt is worse, though.

I think it, StarWarsCantina, and MawInstallation are the only worthwhile places to talk Star Wars on reddit. STK is good for how much it tries to call out all the jerks who have ruined the Star Wars fandom and is a safe space for people to like the sequels without being yelled at or belittled.

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#1493830
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ILM - Disney+ 6 part documentary series
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digitalfreaknyc said:

Re: 1/2 - why would they scan that instead of something internally at Lucasfilm? Is it possible it’s a print from one of the ILM people?

I would presume that #2 would be in the archives of Lucasfilm, along with the IB Tech print. IIRC, it’s that fabled IB Tech print that is the source for the '77 scroll in the GOUT and OOT footage for Empire of Dreams.

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#1493816
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ILM - Disney+ 6 part documentary series
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digitalfreaknyc said:

adywan said:

digitalfreaknyc said:

adywan said:

OK, i have just found proof that they are using footage of the OT from trailers.

I guess the other question is: does that Han *yahoo" shot show up in any trailer with the same blemishes in the print on his face? That would confirm everything.

I don’t think all the footage is from trailers.

Right. So then where does that Han shot come from? None of this makes much sense.

Here are a few ideas I have:

  1. The Lucas-owned IB Technicolor print
  2. A surviving interpositive or a CRI-sourced print (like 4K78) that has damage unique to it - there’s too much detail for it to be a release print, even an AI-enhanced one
  3. Trailers for some, other print sources for Han
  4. IIRC, the shot of Han appeared in From Star Wars to Jedi, so maybe a scan of that?
  5. Press kit materials

Topaz was definitely used to process these scans, which makes me think something about them didn’t warrant a full 2K or 4K scan.

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#1493791
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ILM - Disney+ 6 part documentary series
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My guess is that it’s trailer, damaged interpositive footage, or press kit footage, scanned in 1080p. The fact that the footage has damage we’ve not seen in any of the period release prints (including 4K77 or 4K78) or on 1985 IP-derived transfers (e.g., GOUT and JSC) leads me to believe it’s an additional source.

I know it doesn’t have the slight color fringing present on IB techs of the time, but could the source be the mythical Lucas-owned IB Tech?