Beber

I saw Heat on 35mm just this thursday, and I can tell you that the color grading is accurate on the Blu-ray, except that it just needs more saturation, pretty much times 2 the current color saturation to match the 35mm. In fact, you can check the Blu-ray of Michael Mann's The Insider and take it as an example as to what Heat should look like and then use both movies as an inspiration to work on The Dark Knight.

Why is that? It's a damn good movie with DeNiro and Pacino that has become a "classic" and a reference, and I have read here about the work that was made on the audio for The Good, the Bad and the Ugly and The Last of the Mohicans, so I know there are some guys here that can pull it off.

EDIT :

Dammit! It's not just the audio on the Diane Venora speech, it's the video, too. It would require a HDrip prior to Blu-ray or upscale the DVD...

http://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=718791

Hi, everyone, and especially the audio wizzards.

I just came back from a 35mm projection of Michael Mann’s Heat,and last night, I read on Blu-ray.com the comment of a guy saying that some lines were dropped on the Blu-ray. So now that I just saw it in theater, I compared with my Blu-ray, and the guy’s right. I also compared with my old DVD, and the DVD has these lines.

So I was wondering if someone had done (I just checked all 37 pages of that forum, in vain) or could do an edit of the TrueHD track from the Blu-ray and reinsert the lines back in using the DVD audio. My DVD is PAL @ 384 kbps. Maybe the region 1 NTSC has it @ 448 kbps?

Here’s the comment from Blu-ray.com by DragOnFly :

Last, and also of importance is the involvement of Mann himself on this release. Apparently, the only thing which came out of that was that certain dialogue was cut from the feature for no good reason whatsoever:

Specifically where Diane Venora’s character (Justine) is talking to Vincent Hanna / Pacino after the office party has ended. From the passage below, the first part (“you sift through the detritus”) has been omitted(!).

“You sift through the detritus, you read the terrain, you search for signs of passing, for the scent of your prey … and then you hunt them down. That’s the only thing you’re committed to. The rest is the mess you leave as you pass through.”

The other piece of dialogue is from Pacino’s “great ass” speech to the Alan Marciano character. When Marciano reacts to Pacino’s line “beacuse she’s got a GREAT ASS; and you got your head all the way up it”) Pacino’s “ferocious, aren’t I” line has been cut.

Seriously Mr. Mann; were those two bits of dialogue so out of place that they warranted a cut? Especially the first one?

And it can be found the usual way on the Net (usenet for me: "bd-robo-sony"). I'm pretty sure I have it somewhere on a hard drive.

There is already a "non-released" theatrical cut Sony Blu-ray of this one. It's MPEG-2 and 29.970 fps if I remember correctly.

stretch009 said:

Beber said:

As far as I remember, "South America" is the only Japanese burnt in subtitle in that Raiders.

 I'm pretty sure it displays "WOWOW" during the Nepal scene. 

Edit:  Okay it's not Japanese but I'm sure you want to remove it.

 Oh, right. It does ring a bell.

As far as I remember, "South America" is the only Japanese burnt in subtitle in that Raiders.

I didn't know that they digitally erased the hole under Lance Henriksen on the Blu-ray. I vaguely remember Cameron speaking of that goof on the DVD commentary, and that he said that the way it's shot, you're not supposed to look there, so that's how he justified it. Now, I'll have to listen to the Blu-ray commentary to hear if it's still mentioned.

Why can't directors keep their movies the way they were? I'm beginning to wonder whether the digital technology is a blessing or not. Well, obviously it is, but it turns some directors into morons. Vast subject...

Looks pretty good. I like that warm gold tint on 3PO we can see on the TN1 scan. Can't you match it? Also, haven't you gone a little too far towards cyan, especially inside Jabba's barge ?

Have you done anything on the color timing for Terminator 2 ? Or is it the direct copy of the Japanese edition?

What a treat to ear the CDS mix, as you call it! It seems to be the same one I have had on the French theatrical version DVD from the Ultimate Edition released by Studio Canal back in the day, and it's so much better. Way more rear effects and music better spatialized for instance. It feels like a real 5.1 mix. I don't understand why they had to do a new mix in Dolby EX and dts-ES. This CDS is the one that should have been presented on Blu-ray in dts HDMA/Dolby TrueHD. The only effect that's amplified in the rear channels for the better, I think, in the EX/ES mix is the shooting on our faces by the endoskeleton in the introduction set in 2029.

DoomBot said:

Just ask for an invite and maybe dark_jed or someone could invite you.

 Oh, okay. So is there anyone willing to invite me on blu-torrents? I'd be thrilled to see what Team Blu made of these classic movies. Thanks.

DoomBot said:

I highly doubt it'll show up on the spleen.

 Too bad. What about Usenet, then?

DoomBot said:

Beber said:

Interesting. But where is that "new home" where we can grab these?

 blu-torrents

 OK, if I found the right one, it seems to work on invitation. Will it be on MySpleen next?

Interesting. But where is that "new home" where we can grab these?

I saw last summer a 35mm screening in Paris, France, and I definitely don't recall this shot to be that blue. I can tell you that the movie was darker than the Blu-ray, "tealer" (if that word exists) and a bit purple (might be because of the age of the print). Also, I remember a large shot in the steel factory, when Sarah and John climb some stairs, that was pretty much all yellow with no orange whatsoever in the background.

That comparison clip looks very promising, CSchmidlapp. Would you consider making both 2.40:1 and shifting aspect ratio releases?

Happy new year, guys!

How come you changed from PCM to AC3? PCM is Blu-ray compatible.

Weird that the cropping hides the red sleeve on the snow creature that hits Luke's tauntaun. That's one of these things you want to see back in.

edit: these compatibility issues really bother me. I can't even reencode it to resync my subtitles on it.

OK, so the 1080p from Usenet doesn't work for me either, neither using MPC nor using VLC. Neither does the intro. Yet the extras do work. I don't get it. Have you done anything different with the encoding? All I have is sound.

edit: Okay, so it does play on another version of MPC. But it still doesn't on my Dune HD Max, except the audio. So there's definitely something with the video encoding that ruins compatibility with many players.

Sure I did. And it did extract then. Yet it didn't play. If I can't make it work with the 1080p either, I'll end up getting it on My Spleen.

I do use Media Player Classic Home Cinema, and it's fucked up anyway. Maybe it's the copy on Usenet, I don't know. As I said, I can play the extras and anything on my hard drive, so...

I got the 720p from Usenet and it doesn't work for me. All I can play is the 3 videos inside the Extras folder.

Now I'm getting the 1080p, hoping it will work... except it has more incomplete parts, so I wonder if I'll be able to extract it from the *.rar files. I'll see.

rockin said:

Has anyone captured the Raiders LD audio? 

Yep and synced to the BD.

Really? Who do we have to send a PM to in order to get this?

In tsMuxer, there's is a subtile setup where you can choose the size amongst other things such as color and font, even vertical position.

John213a, Harmy still projects to do them. He just needs someone to take care of the audio part, and the audios in question are the dts theatrical tracks extracted from the actual dts CD-Roms.