Asaki

Please let me know if you'd like the description changed. I didn't feel like trying to dig through archives of those dead sites to try to get info and pics, so I just put up the bare minimum.

I know NMIAI uses some weird audio codec, or at least the CCCP won't run it.

crampedmisfit1990 said:

I had to buy the OOP DVD years ago for a big price for a new copy.

I got it used (like new) off of Amazon last year for less than $6 shipped.

I thought the picture quality was great. Haven't seen the DC, do not wish to.

I have digitally inserted both episodes into my body, careless extraction will result in massive torrents of spleen juice.

I have it, and the other episode that had changes. I gave it to someone here a while back, apparently that wasn't you =)

AluminumFalcon maybe?

Yep, here's the thread: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/X-Men-Animated-Series-Pilot-Sneak-Peak-and-No-Mutant-Original-Version-FOUND/topic/12958/

pittrek said:

Looks very "soft" and "blurry" to me.

Looks like a lot of digital compression to me, and not anything wrong with the print itself.

I'd assume it's just a "quick and dirty" to see what's on the reel before they scan the whole thing, but I'm sure we'll find out pretty soon.

:D

TServo2049 said:

Holy crap! This would be great, I know there is still no true HD transfer of it.

Heck, it's not even on DVD.

drngr said:

I'm surprised by how little damage there is after the cleaning.

The film didn't have that much damage to begin with, surprisingly clean =)

A far cry from the first time I saw the movie--the projector ate it! They had to cancel the movie and we came back another day.

team_negative1 said:

This can serve as a basis for anyone wiling to do further work on them.

 Good point.

crampedmisfit1990 said:

I too noticed that season 2 of He-Man and the Masters of the Universe was very bad looking, season 1 looks pretty good, but season 2... forget about it!

Ah, well that would explain why I didn't notice anything wrong; we only watched a few episodes from season 1.

OmegaMattman said:

I can tell you that both the BCI and Mill Creek Filmmation DVDs suffer from a botched PAL-to-NTSC conversion.

You know, that makes a lot of sense, I never even thought of it. I remember that Dungeons & Dragons was out on DVD in the UK for quite a while before they finally released it in the US, I didn't know other series had the same fate.

skoal said:

However, I am wondering if this is an interlacing issue or even if this is a real issue that can be fixed by our OT enthusiasts.

Shouldn't be too hard to grab the PAL versions and do a -proper- NTSC conversion. I used to have DivX rips of all the PAL D&D episodes, but I'm pretty sure I deleted them after I bought them legit...

Oh well.

I miss the TBC card, but I can't convince myself to waste a whole burnable DVD for something so insignificant =|

SilverWook said:

As I've said before, it would be neat to see the recovered footage used where Moroder had to use still photos.

You'd have to come up with a bunch of new songs, though. That's a -lot- of extra footage we're talking about.

There is something seriously wrong with the atmosphere on the Death Star. Luke's face is turning purple!

team_negative1 said:

Which leads us to gauge the interest in Empire Strikes Back is not as high.

 I can't speak for everyone, but personally:

1. My laptop isn't powerful enough to watch these clips, and my desktop computer isn't connected to speakers or Internet, so I haven't been watching them as often as I used to.

2. While I love ESB, and am looking forward to the Silver Screen release (or whatever it ends up being called)...I know I say this a lot, but I think the Grindhouse looks great just how it is. Possibly could use a little more color correction, but regarding the cleanup, the dirt and scratches don't bother me one bit.

3. I know this project is a side-project, testing out processes that will be applied to the other (better) print, and you're looking for technical feedback. Not quite my area of expertise =)

Asaki said:

Those shots do look very de-saturated, but still pretty awesome.

I've changed my mind. I watched this on Sunday, and it was like I was back in 1993 (man, was it really that long ago??) Everything looked just like I remember.

I mean, except that this time, the film didn't eat itself at the very first dino sighting scene, so we didn't get any "whoops" tickets for free a free pop and popcorn for our next visit.

All it needs is the appropriate trailers at the beginning =)

Beber said:

So, is this the thread where the Jurassic Park 35mm release is discussed?

 I was wondering the same thing...

Beber said:

- night scenes are really dark. Is that supposed to be so dark?

 Looked fine to my eyes, it's supposed to be dark on the island at night ;)

borisanddoris said:

...how was a film suppose to look: like the OCN or the release print? 

 The release print.

TServo2049 said:

Yeah, the difference is that digital black crush looks a whole lot worse than photochemical black crush.

I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that with digital picture, it's incredibly easy to just have your TV's brightness setting too high, revealing much more than you're supposed to see.

Whereas, with a projection, provided that the room is dark enough, you're only going to see the light energy that was strong enough to filter through the film and bounce off of the screen into your eyeball(s).

dvdmike said:

Surely what was on the disc WAS the theatrical DTS standard? 

Well yes, but I remember them mentioning something about it back when they first figured out how to extract usable data from the actual DTS disc.

It was so long ago, I can't remember if it was an issue with the "extraction" process, or if it was just done to make it match the way that the DTS hardware itself outputs the audio.

Either way, what it boils down to is that they had to make a small edit so that the audio would sound as it was intended, nothing to worry about.

poita said:

If he posts a screenshot we will get a better idea of the issue.

Don't worry, I've got this one :)

poita said:

There are many ways to do it, but the easiest if you have DVD playback software on your windows computer, pause an image,  you can just hit the printscreen button and then open up Paint, and paste the image into it.

The last time I tried that, I just got a big, green square.

TServo2049 said:

Forgive my use of the word "amateur." ... I should have used another word, I just couldn't think of one.

 I usually use the term "fan project" ;)

Those shots do look very de-saturated, but still pretty awesome. Any comparison shots?

djchaseb said:

I have an old Sony Blu-Ray player with component out.  I have it set at 1920x1080i...

Don't the old Blu-Ray players auto-install DRM firmware to disable HD output through component? Or did you bypass that somehow?

crampedmisfit1990 said:

I ask because it seems a darn shame to leave in those cue marks that are a big distraction, with the rest of the restorations looking so damn good.

So do you never go to the theatre?

I'm sure if they bother you that much, it would be pretty easy to edit them out yourself; it's only, what, 12 frames that require minor editing?

I don't know the details, really, there's not much info on the screen comparison site (or else I didn't dig very deep).

dave88 said:

The SW Technidisc looks better from what I've seen. Though it may indeed be more troublesome?

Yeah, I know ANH is totally different between Technidisc and JSC, but I couldn't remember about the other two.

Molly said:

Yeah. You'd THINK they'd take the time to do a remastering or something from the original elements.

That's what they did with G.I. Joe and several other cartoons, and they ended up with tons of errors that were corrected in the broadcast masters =|

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

I have the remaining cartridges, and my plan is to telecine all of them and make a DVD of all of them.

 I thought you did release it? Or were those digest versions something different?