It may not be as easy to work with as the GOUT, but as far as sitting down and just watching the theatrical movies without DVNR, it's obviously not going to look any better until we have 32mm preservations (and even there, it's looking iffy).
dark_jedi said:
Arnie.d said:
However, the JSC isn't the holy grail.
DAMN, I could not agree with you more, but some here really think it is the SHIT, the end all be all.
It's not the Holy Grail, but unfortunately, as the years go by, it seems more and more likely that this is as good as it's ever going to get.
I'd love to take up the project myself, but I don't really know much about this sort of thing.
msycamore said:
...that's why it hurts so much when his continuation with the X-9 seems to have died.
That and he never got anything at all released for the other two movies =(
I'm sure there will be other projects in the future (not to mention the reconstructions and 16/32mm preservations). It just gets hard with all the waiting, sometimes.
I'm hoping the BDs will fix the colors and aid reconstructions even further, but......I'm not holding my breath...
Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:
The scripts for aligning and combining the clips also worked!
Oh, I assumed you had already done that in that clip, and was surprised at how well it had turned out.
I'm sure there must be some tuts out there for combining HDR together (I've never actually done it myself), you'd just have to figure out how to apply that to video.
Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:
Do you have Windows 7? I think that only the version of WMP under Windows 7 will play dimensions larger than 1080.
I tried both WMP 11 and mplayer2.exe (6.4) and they both ran it just fine on Windows XP.
canofhumdingers said:
how are people playing this in windows media player?
Install the DivX Plus codecs: http://www.divx.com/en/software/divx-plus
^ It'll try to install the DivX Player and a bunch of other stuff too, just tell it not to.
Oh, sorry, I posted in the wrong thread. I get a little bit mixed up between these two.
Torrent is up.
It's the V8, and it's at Demonoid.
Starting up a torrent of this if anyone is interested.
Holy smokes.
Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:
It's 1280x480, so you'll need VLC or similar to play it.
I had no problems whatsoever watching it in WMP.
Also, as for the corners, I'd suggest leaving them as-is; I didn't even notice them until I remembered to check.
Maybe it's just the way the film shakes around, but the pulldown looks jerkier than usual to my eyes? Or maybe I'm just imagining it.
The JSC looks so much better.
I need it =/
Alright, I can get working on the torrent. I'll update when everything is ready.
Update: Everything should be ready. I don't know if I'm allowed to say where it is? I know we didn't used to, but I've seen people doing it lately.
TServo2049 said:
Are Arnie.d's any better than the Dark/Sega ones? Maybe a repost would be in order for those of us who don't have access to 600+ day old posts...
I was going to upload a torrent, but I started running out of HD space and ended up deleting it.
I still have a DVDshrink version of it I haven't burned yet if anyone's interested in that.
Is it just me, or does there seem to be a kind of Star Wars curse going around, infecting all the really good projects?
Or maybe LucasFilm is just sending everyone letters telling them to vanish without a trace...or else.
Very nice.
I'd still like to know what the JSC looks like, if it's better or just the same.
How's it looking?
And by that, I mean can we take a peek? *hint hint* ;)
I don't know if this helps at all, but I saw this movie on Hulu a little while ago, and I'm pretty sure it was the international cut.
Bummer.
Agree with everyone else about preserving as much as we can for future fan edits.
Screen captures from the 1992 Special Letterbox Collector's Edition VHSes:
Ep IV: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Smear-free-93/post/481961/#TopicPost481961
Ep V:
^ Somewhere between that last shot and this one, there was a bit of a drop in quality. It's getting harder to seperate the edges of the picture from the "black bars". Seems like this quality loss persists through the rest of the movie (and gets slightly worse).
Ep VI:
^ Example of framing and subs. The quality is a bit worse than ESB had been getting.
^ The quality improves! I can find the borders again!
I took ESB and RotJ caps too, if anybody's interested. Or I could post them in my own thread, I suppose...
Edit: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Pre-93-Special-LD-transfers/post/482323/#TopicPost482323
adywan said:
You mean like the GOUT then ;)
Technically the GOUT was cleaned up, and that's why we hates it (we does) =(
adywan said:
My god, i can't believe the negativity here. It's only at a very early stage and people are saying how crap it's going to look.
I'm pretty excited. I figure if anyone can make it look pristine, we've got the best guys to do it right here on this board.
And judging by your example shots, I'd say my assumptions were pretty spot on.
Stunning.
zombie84 said:
I for one would like to see the raw scan released, so that we aren't locked into one interpretation of dirt cleanup and colour correction, but maybe that is asking too much right now.
I'm sure it'll happen, in the interest of preservation.
After resampling my VHS caps to 608 wide, they match perfectly (layered together with soft light):
Obviously your caps have a bit extra on the left-hand side.
Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:
It would be fun to try, but I fear there would be too many slight variations in the centering of each frame, such that it would just make it look less sharp.
Yeah, that's what I figured.
Maybe there's a script out there somewhere to line them up automatically?
TV's Frink said:
Ah...a philosopher. ;-)
;)
Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:
Film has a much larger spread than video cameras of being able to reproduce detail in bright areas and dark areas, and so one is always balancing whether to favor the details in the dark areas or the bright areas. The blowout of some of the whites in PG had nothing to do with white balance, and was more due to my trying to get people's faces to look as good as I could.
I finally got to watch the Puggo Grande and the whites do blow out a little bit, but I got some of the detail back when I dialed down the brightness in the program.
I might be way off the mark here, or you might already have considered this, but is there a way you could do like they do with HDR photography?Get one capture very bright, one very dark, one in the middle and layer them together?
I know you said you're already capturing at different settings, I didn't know if that's what you meant or not. But then again, trying to get them all to line up perfectly would probably take too long to do =/