Anakin Starkiller

For me cloning is always such a lazy plot device for bringing people back or retconning/fixing things. I mean, unless the movie specifically deals with the topic of cloning (such as Moon, The Island, etc.) it just comes off as tropy.

Agreed. That said, Lucas managed to find a way to use cloning that is neither morally interesting nor a crutch for recovering from a bad storytelling decision. Not sure why he did that, but he did.

What’s with all the hashtags, babajaga? You’re acting like an anime character.

Darth Sadifous said:

RogueLeader said:

Speaking of what Palpatine wants, I also think Palpatine’s motivations need to be changed.

If Palpatine was Snoke, presumably, then Palpatine already knows that Kylo won’t kill Rey. And Kylo would also know that Palpatine knows that. If Palpatine as Snoke couldn’t get Kylo to kill her, then this guy Kylo just met definitely won’t. If Palpatine asked Kylo to bring Rey to him, it might be something more reasonable for him to ask. Then you could use Kylo’s masked dialogue to fill in that gap of why Palpatine wants him to bring Rey there. Maybe it is to kill her himself, maybe he tries to convince Kylo that he can help turn her to the dark side, or maybe he never tells him why and the truth is that he knows about the dyad and needs them both there to drain their power.

Whatever the reason, I think Kylo would look smarter if he knows it is probably a trap, and his goal is to find Rey and keep her from reaching Exegol, because he knows that is exactly what Palpatine wants.

EDIT: I suppose my motivation for this is that I still want to keep this idea that Kylo has overcome what Vader couldn’t to some extent. Vader was a pawn of the Emperor up until he threw him down that reactor shaft. I think Kylo Ren should stop being Palpatine’s pawn when he kills Snoke. So even though Palpatine is “alive”, Kylo sees past Palpatine’s machinations and tries to work against them. I think this would help keep Kylo’s character regressing too much from where we left him in TLJ.

Perhaps in the fanedit, you set up through the crawl that Snoke was one of Palpatine’s pawns or apprentices (Like Maul, Dooku and Vader) and now Kylo has destroyed his apprentice and impressed Palpatine. This way, Snoke isn’t a meat puppet and somewhat autonomous of Palpatine. You could still leave the line that Palpatine created Snoke, but now it is more metaphorical and just cut the vat of cloned Snokes. Also it solves the problem you were talking about, as Palpatine may not know exactly how Snoke was defeated in his throne room and Kylo’s conflicting feelings with Rey. It just seems a lot cleaner to me than Palpatine creating Snoke and literally controlling him.

Mentioning that Snoke is a pawn in the crawl is redundant. Simply cutting out the jar of Snokes would lead the viewer to assume such (give or take how they interpret “made”).

Rey’d Shadow Legends

Since the film has come out, I’ve been keeping a notepad of ideas of sort of “how I would have done it.” Silly, sure, but I’ve found it a healthy way to work through my feelings on the film.

If that’s what works for you, more power to you. To me straying beyond what is reasonably doable is simply frustrating because I know it will never happen.

*Rey Rey Binks

“Who are you?”

“I’m Rey.”

“Rey who?”

“Just Rey.”

“So…Rey Solo.”

actually liked the Rise of skywalker, the main problem with this film is pacing.

Opposite reaction. After thinking about it, I didn’t like the movie, but I thought the breakneck pace felt really appropriate, as it contributed to the feeling that made me initially like the film: it feels like an ending. More specifically, it feels like the endgame where everyone’s knowledge and abilities have been maxed out so they’re above silly slow plots and single lightspeed jumps at a time. And Rey and Palpatine’s confrontation (somehow) being all the Jedi versus all the Sith, and leading to Palpatine straight up disintegrating…it all feels so final. I love that about the film.

I really love the imagery of Hux’s lightsaber seppuku, but given his role in the film, I suggest giving it to Pryde. You could just shoot it against a green screen and plop the head on top with EBsynth or something. It’d just be that one shot. You’d need context to suit it of course, but surely that can be sorted out using the arrival of the Resistance fleet.

This needs to be a minigame.

I guess I’ve gotten overambitious after some promising tests with EBsynth.

On a different note. I think it might be best to remove the Ewok reaction shot. They look really weird, and it’s not really necessary, serving as a moment of nostalgia indulgence and nothing more (granted the whole scene kind of is). I think it could flow better with the rest of the scene, but at the same time, people might feel cheated if they only see their backs.

Yeah, I remember that. It’s still on my changelist. I’m just trying to expand upon it.

I’ve been thinking about if there’s a way to move the Exegol action to Coruscant. After all, it’s a pretty boring planet (like all planets in Abrams SW…which is strange, considering how striking Nibiru was in Star Trek Into Darkness), and having the action take place on Coruscant would tighten up the Saga nicely. That said, you’d have to radically restructure the film, since there’s no way the wild goose chase to Palpatine is gonna lead to the capital of the Galaxy. I’m thinking Kylo instead finds Palpatine on Endor (allowing us to feature RLM’s Ewok death cult) and takes him to a First Order stronghold where he spends the rest of the film. The Sith dagger’s inscriptions would lead group not the wayfinder, but to Palpatine himself, although they are too late. This is probably all too difficult to achieve and riddled with plot holes, now that I think about it, but the point stands:

We. Need. Coruscant!

Not worth re-editing for something so minor, honestly, but you do you.

What if aboard the Supremacy, the heroes pass by evidence of internal division. There’s stromtrooper with stormtrooper prisoners, graffiti honoring Finn, etc…

Hey, if you want to make an epic mega edit of RotS with any footage available, consistency be damned, you can get some decent mileage out of the deleted scenes.

That would just be on the level of “father’s brother’s nephew’s cousin’s former roommate”.

I feel like a version of Orphan 55 where the planet isn’t Earth is a pretty obvious fanedit to make.

So what happened? Disney execs felt that the Clone Rey backstory was too dark.

I’m sorry, what? That doesn’t make any sense on any level.

You know someone on this forum once described RotJ as less of grand finale to the saga and more of an inevitable collapse, and that honestly feels all too appropriate to describe TRoS.

liamnotneeson said:

The more I sit on it, the more I really hate Rey Palpatine. I really hate it- I wouldn’t even use hate to describe how I feel about what Johnson did to Luke in TLJ but I hate Rey Palpatine. The force dyad properly elaborated on would have been fully sufficient to explain Rey’s OP-ness, in my opinion. Rey being from nowhere was in retrospect completely in line with the Star Wars ethos and if episode XI had kept with it, and I think it would have allowed that fact to sit well with audiences.

Rey Palpatine never really sat right with me, even the first time I watched it. Once fan edits start coming out of TROS, whatever edit I chose will need to have Rey Palpatine scrapped, no exceptions, but that’s just my taste and my preference. Rey Palpatine will never be canon to me.

This is coming from someone who overall enjoyed the sequels, so don’t accuse me of being a Disney hater or whatever. I understand why JJ did it, and I strongly disagree

JJ loves copying, even the bad. RotJ had a useless convoluted heritage twist (Leia Skywalker), so TRoS does the same.

Of course that’s not the real reason but I find the parallel amusing.

And yeah, I’m pretty sure Fisher’s passing had nothing to do with Trevorrow leaving.

I know it’s a game and not a movie, but I feel like Drawn to Life is a charming game that simply doesn’t live up to its potential. The levels are long and repetitive, and the stuff between them is also repetitive, yet the core concept of drawing parts of the world, as well the core characters and the world itself, are quite compelling. The music is fantastic, too. It’s just a shame it’s bogged down by mediocre gameplay and the WTF ending to the second game that just felt completely out of place and uncalled for, not to mention tonally jarring.

My bad.

This is a version of the story where he isn’t.

They also didn’t want to conflict with the at the time canon 2D Clone Wars. Honestly, if this takes off and they end up finishing all the remaining unproduced stories, I’d be down to see a prequel season or two with Anakin as a padawan and mullet Obi-Wan, set just after AotC.