I don’t understand why everyone is so keen on cutting Rey Skywalker. It’s the natural conclusion to her arc imo and exactly what I’d hoped for after TFA released (minus being a Palpatine).
That might work. I recently watched an edit that moves Palpatine’s reveal to the end of act 1, and while the cutaway kind of helps the “Scavenger Hunt” plot feel less hectic, it makes seeing Palpatine less shocking because you’ve had more time to settle into the rest of the story.
I’ve experimented with putting Palpatine’s message into the Last Jedi while saving his visual reveal for tRoS, but the only spot I can find is after the credits. I would hate for tLJ to spend 80% of its runtime being so bleak, and just when you think it’s going to end on a positive note, it turns out the big bad has returned from the dead with a promise of revenge. That feels cruel.
You have a point about ending on a hopeful note, and while that wouldn’t work with Palpatine’s message, it would absolutely work with Kylo’s trip to Exegol. It’s something the protagonists don’t know about, and it shows that the antagonist has been weakened to the point of seeking outside help.
I don’t see the problem with more extras? Klaud is wonderfully goofy and Merry blends right in (although yeah, he totally should’ve been Rose).
Suggestions:
Battle of the fates.
The Final Order.
The Phantom Shadow.
An Ancient Fear.
Balance of the force.
Eternal Throne.
Generally speaking, I’m strongly against changing titles, as I think it should be clear which film it is, and that it’s the same one everyone in the fandom refers to.
That said, if I were to rename films, while I think Rise of Skywalker is perfect already, good alternatives would be The Eternal Throne, The Throne Eternal, and The Empire Eternal. Balance of the Force would work too. That said, I don’t like multiple SW titles having the same words in them (besides small ones like “the” and “of”, obviously).
The only game that can get me uncontrollably hyped with a single image.
Idk…I think any significant movement (especially the camera) feels wrong in the final shot of a SW film. But of course TFA said fuck that and ended on a horrendous helicopter shot while TESB doesn’t end on the shot I always remember it ending on.
Okay so I think we all agree introducing Palpatine at the start of TRoS was a mistake. But what are the alternatives?
Introduce Palpatine at the end of TLJ.
Introduce Palpatine at the end of TRoS.
No Palpatine at all (good luck).
Most of these options have been explored, but I haven’t heard anyone consider moving his reveal to the end of the film. Cut all of Kylo’s scenes at the start, and change the Resistance dialog to refer to Palpatine as dead when they talk of his fleet. Then Rey shows up on Exegol and guess who she finds?
I don’t suppose there’s any way we could inject some mysticism and cosmology into this film? I feel it’s the biggest omission to be rooted in the film’s position as the final chapter. I wish we could get Mortis, the Whills, the World Between Worlds, or something, but I can’t think of any way it’d be possible.
Also, which track are you using for “Chewie’s theme”?
Yeah, don’t beat yourself up over this. You made a minor mistake doing something good.
TBF, nobody has freaking arc in this film.
Poe’s arc… from hothead flyboy to responsible general.
Finn’s arc… from victim of the empire and all alone, to force sensitive leader who teams up with other victims to topple it.
Rey’s arc… from someone who is lost, drawn to darkness, and doesn’t know her place or have a family to someone who chooses good, has a family, and presumably becomes the leader of a new Jedi Order.If that’s not an arc… I don’t know what an arc is then.
Maybe it’s just not the arc you would have written.
Those are the arcs for the trilogy as a whole, though. How much of them actually happens in TRoS? Most of the development happens in the first two movies.
I’ve got two things to ask.
First, is there any way we can try to alter Palpatine’s motivation when Rey arrives on Exegol? Throughout the saga, he has always been interested in cheating death and immortality. Wanting Rey to kill him only so she can take over the new order and follow in his footsteps because she’s his granddaughter is way too out of character. Maybe alter the scene so that he is trying to make her give in to the Dark Side like he tried to do with Luke in Return of the Jedi.
Then it’s just a repeat of RotJ. What we should do is focus on the cheating death aspect. He wants Rey so he can take over her body. Could that be conveyed through existing dialog?
I am still too stubborn to be convinced that Rey Palpatine can be removed.
Rey will literally have no arc if you remove it.
TBF, nobody has freaking arc in this film.
Dee Bradley Baker and Temura Morrison sound close enough that I can accept them as the same characters. Matt Lanter and Hayden Christensen, on the other hand…
Another few weeks of the barbers/hairdressers being closed and there’ll be some tremendous bad hair going around 😃
I’m thinking of getting creative with my new hair length. Think I’d like to go with a CW Anakin mullet or a girl’s short hairstyle.
Not like she’s ever made any of those. /s
A simple side idea that may have been talked about either on this thread or Hals … but I kinda wanted to sell that the “Sith” troopers are clones … which could help sell why there were so many of them. There is not a lot of footage of the red troopers, so there was one spot I used a republic commando sound file to incorporate a simple line and a grunt.
I wanted a simple line so people can pick up on it since a grunt sound is so quick and people wouldn’t catch it … but I dunno if it makes it either silly or too “fan edit-y”
Sith Clone Trooper
https://vimeo.com/414597626
pw:fanedit
I honestly can’t make out what he’s saying.
Cut the flashback entirely. The films are stronger if Rey’s parents were a couple of drunken assholes.
Fuck it; clones whynot. It at least tries to offer an olive branch of logic and explanation.
The gloves are off when it comes to this movie.
Wow, this movie is so nonsensical it even broke Hal.
This is fantastic. Reminds me of my work on Harry Potter. Posting the trailer to my Discord.
Sigh
I would 100% rather have this DOTF scene be the final Skywalker Saga scene instead of the Tatooine shitfest we were given:
In case you don’t know, in DOTF, the final scene was Rey training a bunch of younglings (including broom boy) on a new planet.
Might be somewhat doable, using footage from other films and compositing Rey and Broomboy onto it. Would be tough, though.
All Lightsaber Duels are tighter, closer and faster in-line with the OT.
Raises eyebrow in confusion
You could remove the weapon aspect from star-killer, affectively making it just a base that Rey and Finn escape from.
That’s always been my approach.
