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- #1350112
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- The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Oh I totally agree. I think a montage would be unnecessary and indulgent.
Oh I totally agree. I think a montage would be unnecessary and indulgent.
jonh, how about you call in as “the Phantom four” or “Spectre four” or some synonym for ghost?
Or “Jedi Haircut” lol
“this is the Phantom four, standing by” i like it!!!
I send it to you today 😃
Canonically, the crew use Specter as a callsign, with each member being Specter 1-6. The Phantom is the name of the small ship that attaches to the back of the Ghost.
After 3PO says “One last look… at my friends!” it would be cool to have a short montage of Luke, Han and Leia from the Original Trilogy. This would make is appear 3PO is accessing his memory banks of Luke, Han and Leia instead.
No, that’s a horrible idea. The ST is already too obsessed with OT as it is. I’d allow the montage if it includes the Prequels and a bit of the Sequels, tying it all together, but just the Originals would be insulting. I get that has Prequel memories haven’t been restored at this point, but that’s not important.
I decided I wanted to put my mental C-3PO inventory to some more good use, so I spent a few minutes screwing around with the scene where 3PO gets his memory back.
THIS IS ROUGH, I haven’t done anything with pruning the audio yet, this is just raw lines used:
I really didn’t like the joke about R2 “putting something in his head” as well as the smash cut mid-sentence, so I changed it.
I hope Snooker gets a chance to see my “mistress Rey” line replacement since she was the one who gave me the idea!
I agree with what Octorox said; the Prequel reference is nice but the original smash cut line was much better.
Did RoS really try to please everyone, though? It feels more like it tried to please those who hated TLJ.
I actually don’t see the connection there.
I just don’t see what good could come from him being in exile without disillusionment. What, was he just sitting there waiting for someone to come get him? And as soon as they did he’d go “Okay, well since you found me, I’ve totally changed my mind and decide to take on the whole First Order with a laser sword”?
JJ’s plan was probably crap and Rian realized that it was crap.
Absolutely.
Yeah, that’s what I was trying to go with in my idea. Leia created the First Order as a small terrorist force for the Republic to band against, but when Snoke took over it mutated into a genocidal empire. That caused Leia to reconsider her belief that war is a necessary evil, and led to her founding the Resistance to oppose the regime she accidentally created.
Exactly. It’s about her starting the First Order as a small strawman to unite against, then Snoke turning them into a legitimate threat.
When fans give the story more thought than the writers.
SighI mean that’s not really true though.
I’d say it’s true in relation to JJ Abrams’ writing.
Just because the final product ended up in a certain simplified way doesn’t thought wasn’t put into its development.
Agreed. I’m sure it was thought over extensively in development, but there isn’t much hope when the man in charge is JJ Abrams. He’s always gonna pick the dumber, more nostalgic route.
Honestly, the basic idea of Leia creating the First Order as something to unite against is good, I just wouldn’t have her stay in charge of them. She gets in over her head hiring local warlords and imperial remnants to unite and when Snoke comes along with a new vision for them she realizes how badly she fucked up.
Doctor Who has no canon
I mean you’re not wrong.
Now as I’m sure you’re all aware, TLJ is incredibly divisive. Some hate it, some love it. My question is this: how can we bridge that divide?
The first thing that comes to mind is giving Snoke a backstory. You can still kill him off but people won’t be so annoyed because they’ll have learned who he is.
For Rey’s parents being deemed underwhelming by some, I rest the blame solely on TFA, so I’m gonna ignore it.
As for Luke, I’m not sure how one could approach his arc.
Nah, I prefer the idea that he’s playing Persona on his PSP in a vain attempt to take his mind off the fact that his life is crumbling around him.
I feel like you could sneak in some exposition unrelated to the mask, but that would hardly help their characters.
But they’re also explicitly non-canon. And given the tone of the short, they should stay that way.
Speaking from my experience regrading it, it can actually look quite beautiful in some scenes if you increase the brightness and contrast. The murky brown becomes a pastel gold.
Unless you’re referring to the singer of DJ Got Us Fallin’ in Love Again, it should be Ushar, not Usher.
I don’t think Din Djarin and Baby Yoda should be there because they’re spinoff content. The focus should be squarely on bringing together all nine episodes of the Saga. As for the Trade Federation, I just didn’t really feel like they were piloting a ship in that shot.
I’d be down to watch that. Then again, I’d rather give it some time before revisiting it. Why Fatal Death, though?
You’d need a whole new puppet, really.
All these years and I never knew Ric Olie was one of the starfighter pilots…
For Baby Yoda… Yoda about the equivalent to 90 when he’s 900 years old, right? So if Baby Yoda is 50 years old, him being 80 years old is the equivalent of going from 5 years old to 8 years old.
That’s what I thought until I realized baby Yoda is closer 2 than 5.
Honestly, a montage of cockpit interiors would be all worth it if Ric Olié is there. Granted, there’s no way he could logistically be alive, so I guess we’d have to settle for his grandchild, which would actually make it easier as we wouldn’t need to deepfake his face.
Seriously, though, a montage of creatures and characters from across the Saga would really bring it all together. It would have be new footage though, I think. It looks to obvious here it’s taken from somewhere else.
I feel like this has a lot of potential but so far the only exchange that really adds something is their reveal on Exegol. Subsequent shots could build off of it with more meaningful lines. I’d replace the line about being unfair with some expression of surprise. “What a disappointment” is in a shot so short it might as well be dropped rather than replaced. I really like the initial exchange though. It really clarifies what they’re thinking at this moment.
As for the other scenes, the dialog doesn’t add anything to their characters. It just states what we already know. Also, I’d shorten “Luke’s scavenger girl” to just “the scavenger”.
Oh and I’ve found their canon names.
FWIW, Duel of the Fates names some of them as Hattaska Ren, Ott Ren, Lorl Ren, and Jaedec Ren. That last one described as being the rogue, a title usually given to Vicrul, or as I call him Mangoface - I think the name Jaedec suits him really well.
Supposedly there was at one point a knight named Sollony Ren, but she wasn’t in the leaked script. I suspect she was renamed to be less similar to Solana, Rey’s last name revealed at the end.
Oh and I’ve always thought it’d be neat to have one named Ignatia Ren, but that’s just a name I made up.
The hair is very much director dependant, and Newell seems to have a thing for long hair, because everyone’s hair has gone back to the 70s in his film.
I have edits that fix the colors. I may have gone too far in some places, though. Definitely gonna revisit them someday.
You’re doing some excellent work!
Most people agree with you that PoA is the best, although I’m not sure why. It’s fine, don’t get me wrong, but the cold colors and questionable use of the uniforms really rubs me the wrong way. I also don’t see what elements plotwise raise it above the others in people’s eyes. People also seem to rate Deathly Hallows really high and the Columbus films really low which just seems so backwards to me.
But now looking through a ranking thread on r/movies, there seem be a lot of people actually putting the Columbus films right below Cuaron’s, while the bottom tends to be a Yates film (although tbf, he directed half of them, so it’s statistically likely). The people there also seem to dislike GoF for some reason. It seems to be in the bottom three of most people’s rankings, which is strange cuz I thought it was mostly pretty strong. Granted, it’s plot is based around an enormous gaping plothole, and the tournament feels like a lame excuse for action scenes, but it’s certainly more interesting then what came after it. DHP2 seems to perform relatively well, if only by virtue of being the finale. Personally, I felt the execution left much to be desired.