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- The <strong>Original Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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You’d think that would be easy to come by.
You’d think that would be easy to come by.
it makes me think that you like shipped Luke and Leia in the first two or something
I did not. I can’t bring myself to give a damn about any Star Wars romance beside Ben and Rey.
It doesn’t go nowhere, it’s used by Vader to taunt Luke.
Woohoo, a five second throwaway line that could’ve been replaced with a dozen other things.
My objections to Leia being a Skywalker are as follows:
It comes out of nowhere
It goes nowhere
It feels contrived that the secret sibling is someone Luke already knows
Having Luke’s sister just so happen to be the only other woman he’s spent the three films with is contrived to the point of ruining my immersion. At that point I’m ready for Han to introduce himself as Uncle Skywalker. Say what you will about Rey being a Palpatine (I won’t pretend that isn’t stupid as well) but her grandparent only comes in at the end specifically looking for his granddaughter; he didn’t just bump into her at a bar.
I literally can’t think of any benefit to leaving this familial link in besides Ben having Vader’s bloodline, which is a sacrifice I’m willing to make. Doesn’t take blood to be a fanboy.
I miss my ex’s voice. 😭 It was so sweet, like a soft an fluffy pillow. And the accent switching was so much fun. She’s the only woman who’s ever loved me and I never even got to kiss her because she lived so far.
that’s better for me personally. Leia being Luke’s sister is just too iconic and ingrained at this point. Luke and Leia’s conversation in ROTJ is so good and her being used as emotional leverage by Vader also makes it all worth it.
Wouldn’t it be simpler to just remove the kiss in ESB? This way, there isn’t incest and you don’t need to modify nothing but a single scene.
Removing the familial relationship is so much better because the having them pull a sister out of a hat yet having it be an established character only for it to go absolutely nowhere not only shrinks the universe but is just generally the single worst piece of writing in the entire Saga and I’m including Rise of Skywalker in that statement. It’s incredibly clumsy and embarrassing and I hate it.
That’s always been one of my bare minimum requirements.
When Palpatine absorbs the Dyad, Ben and Rey fall to the ground. This is the perfect opportunity to send Rey to King’s Cross Station. Heck, DotF did just that. This can be used to exposit absolutely anything, though preferably more cosmological elements. It can look like anything since it’s all in her head / the Force. Animation, rotoscoped live-action, shooting new footage with a 9 year old Rey, simple spheres of light, anything goes, really. Then she gets whatever message she needs to hear and wakes up on the ground and starts chanting for the Jedi to be with her.
Anyone thought about making Snoke Sly Moore? Probably wouldn’t do much, but it’s worth a shot. Not sure how you’d even convey this information, though.
You would also have to imply that Jango purposefully planted the dart, which leads the Jedi to Kamino.
A while ago I suggested inserting a closeup of Jango holding the dart after his meeting with Zam. It’s a little change, but it would emphasis the importance of the dart and hint at a greater plan.
On the one hand, that would explain why this one time he uses a solid projectile that could be traced instead of a blaster bolt. On the other, is it possible that this was a mistake on Jango’s part and the Jedi weren’t supposed to follow him? 'Cause it seems awfully convoluted that he’d outsource a failed assassination just to get the Jedi to find Kamino. It’s perfectly possible they were intended to find it, but not right away, but when they did, Dooku just rolled with it, since it just meant starting the Clone Wars a little earlier than scheduled.
I’d keep it a mystery, but imply he’s been alive well over 500 years, if not substantially longer.
If I had to give Palpatine a backstory, as much as I liked his characterization in the Darth Plagueis novel, if it were up to me, I’d probably go with the “ancient being” angle. Have him be this eldritch, demonic entity where no one knows how long he’s existed.
Maybe he could be the one who ruled the galaxy 1000 years before the movies?
That’s an interesting angle too.
Should Yoda be a present character within the prequels?
I feel that removing him from the PT preserves the revelation in TESB of who Yoda really is.
First of all, you should be watching the OT first, and second of all, the Yoda reveal frankly works better when you know he’s Yoda.
Looking for electives in university registration be like
“Pick a class, any class.”
Pick a class
“No, not that one!”
No to mention advisors seem to actively do everything in their power to hide from you. Apparently History of China doesn’t count towards my History of Asia requirement and is counted as an elective and I can’t reach anyone to clarify. Fuck the university bureaucracy.
The Incredibles 2 is one half of a pretty good movie and one half of a really awful one. Everything about the Parrs’ home life is on par (no pun intended) with the first film. The actual superhero business Helen gets involved in initially shows promise but rapidly spirals out of control.
The villain is terrible on every level, and upon seeing the deleted scenes, it becomes incredibly obvious their motivation (which is only ever brought up in a single monologue) is a leftover from an earlier draft where there was an angle of filming Elastigirl’s crimefighting to broadcast as entertainment. With that angle lost, Screenslaver’s rant about people only wanting superheroes as escapism feels completely out of left field and is forgotten just as soon as it’s established. Speaking of Screenslaver, that cool design that reminds me a lot of the Paul Dano Riddler is only used once in the film, as is the entire persona of a sort of soft-spoken ninja is immediately discarded. If we had that Screenslaver for the rest of the movie it would be much better. But no, we get a twist reveal that you can see coming the minute the culprit is introduced (not to mention there’s literally only two characters introduced who it realistically could be), which is completely worthless, and then the finale has the villain out of costume and just generally being boring.Oh and the fact that Elastigirl didn’t immediately figure out they had the wrong guy when the film so blatantly telegraphs it was painful to watch.
Unlike the first film, there were actually a couple deleted scenes I think shouldn’t have been cut, namely the restaurant holdup (I get that it doesn’t contribute to the plot, but it’s a fun scene, and the kids were otherwise underutilized so I loved seeing them shine) and Edna’s security breach (having her hacked by Screenslaver would’ve been a great way to tie Helen’s plotline to Bob’s).
Oh and Schaffrillas is right about the newly introduced superheroes: their designs are awful.
Overall, I’d say the only thing this movie is is incredibly disappointing. The first one is a masterclass in storytelling that should be taught in universities around the world. The second is something to keep the kids quiet for two hours.
Damn, I think that was more than a few sentences.
Was Arnie in any non-Terminator Cameron movies?
Then you haven’t really watched it, have you?
Anyway, I just watched The Incredibles. Perfect movie.
So there was this test I had missed, but the teacher said I could take it later. She said several students had missed it so she’d give a retake for all of them. She said she’d get back to me on when it would be. Unfortunately she sent the update to me by email. I don’t check my email. Thus, I missed the retake. I’ve now missed a 15% test. Luckily, she’s a very nice teacher so she said she’ll try to work something out, but it’s looking bleak, and is quite frustrating.
And for those of you wondering why I don’t check my email it’s because afaict its primary purpose is spam. Seriously, no matter what I do, my inbox is always at least 80% spam. Why is Garage sending me emails? I’ve never shopped there in my life! This stuff should be illegal, or at least provide a return address so I can send them back with bombs attached.
Yeah, you seem to have some serious issues you need to address. Like, we just come here to let off steam but you’re really in a bad place and have been for a long time and need serious psychological treatment of some sort. Help won’t come on its own; you have to seek it out.
And I do share that dread in the face of AI. What is my art worth if a computer can pump it out instantly? I disagree about there being an impasse though. We can’t just choose to pretend the technology doesn’t exist. It’s there and always will be, and it’s only gonna get better. There’s no point being a Luddite.
Anyway, I’m here cuz my linguistics class I’m in bores me to tears. It’s strange cuz once I’m actually doing work for it I have no problem but I just can’t pay attention to these lectures.
Really though, the thing on my mind right now is frustration at just how little control I feel I have in the game of love. Just recently I’ve become great friends with this girl but she has a boyfriend so it’s never gonna be anything more. I’ve come to realize finding love dependent on the convergence of four different factors:
Of those, only the third one do you ever have any semblance of control over, and even then it’s only partial. It’s just soulcrushing when you feel you’re doing everything correctly and still failing. I guess there’s always room for optimization, but still. What’s worse is I don’t feel like I’m getting any better at it. I’m still hitting the same roadblocks as I did years ago. It’s incredibly frustrating.
Take for example this girl in my class right now. I think she’s cute but she shows up right before the lecture with headphones on and leaves immediately after the same way. How do you even break through at that point?
What’s the point of just posting the movie title if you’re not gonna comment on it?
I just watched The Princess and the Frog. Unusually, my dad sat this one out because, and I quote, “There’s no spaceships.” Honestly he didn’t miss much. I’ve never liked Disney films and this one just confirmed every idea about them I remembered in my head is absolutely true. The whole comic relief sidekick schtick they always do never fails to drive me up the wall. The alligator, the hillbilly firefly, and Lawrence…I’d have cut all of them on the scripting stage. The one thing that peeked my curiosity and got me to watch this one (besides a lack of familiarity compared to other overexposed Disney films) was the Lousiana setting, which they used exceptionally well. I loved Dr. Facilier’s use of French, though it only happens twice which is a shame. In fact, Facilier is underutilized in general despite being tied with Prince Naveen for being the best character in the movie. Despite the title, I didn’t care much for the frog shenanigans and much preferred the start of the film everyone is human doing meaningful things rather than random filler in the bayou. I really didn’t appreciate how they handled the firefly’s death. He should’ve been instantly crushed to death when squashed by Dr. Facilier (granted the same is true of both times Prince Naveen is squashed with a book) and it would’ve been a fitting end with a nice somber tone. Instead, they decide that he’s actually still alive but not really cuz it’s only long enough for him to have a dramatic death speech that as touching as it was frankly wasn’t necessary. I loved how the opening music number introduces all the key characters in one feel swoop. It’s very effective, even if we don’t quite know who they are yet. Charlotte’s dad seemed quite prominent at the start of the film so it’s a bit surprising he just kinda disappears once they turn into frogs. I expected him to have a more important role, possibly as a villain. Anyway, those are my thoughts on the film in a disorganized ramble. I hope the wall of text isn’t too off-putting.
Through my own personal fumbling, I unwittingly skipped breakfast. Hopefully I can last until my break at noon.
UPDATE: I got a crummy burrito between classes so I was fine.
Well said indeed.
Finally have a nice entourage in my class…teacher skips the fifteen minute break. No chit chat for me. 😑
What the hell YouTube movies? I’ve seen some of the movies hosted there have the wrong ratings. I’ve seen family friendly musicals have 18+ ratings for no apparent reason. And it sure was hell doesn’t match the ratings given to the movies (at least in my country).
Just a reminder that The Force Awakens is rated PG-13. Because that film’s so traumatic for children.
Anyway, hours later now, I go to the library specifically in the quiet section to get work done, and two people beside me are whispering a conversation.
Still younger than Palpatine.
It’s not a completely different city. The aesthetic feels the same. The only thing that’s objectively a different place i Wayne Manor, and I’d consider it an upgrade. I’d love to see this version of it integrated into '89 rather than the other way around. The miniature works better for this exaggerated soundstage Gotham than a location shoot.
- Castle in the Sky (Laputa) Japanese audio with the American score (and an alternate version with the updated American sound effects from the 2003 Disney DVD)
I second this one. I wouldn’t mind the English dub if it weren’t for the child being obviously voiced by an adult.
Idk if it would work but I also could picture a version where Palpatine is talking about putting her under the protection of the Jedi, and Palpatine says, “maybe someone you’re familiar with, like an old friend…” (either cut there or keep ‘Master Kenobi’) then hard cut to the Anakin/Obi-Wan training scene.
I can tell you I usually cut straight from Palps saying “Master Kenobi” to Obi and Ani in the elevator. This could work too if the scene actually brings something to the table.
By zooming (aggressively)
I’m picturing a snap zoom. Probably not what you meant but I find it funny. There’s already some in the Battle of Geonosis too.