Yeah, I remember that. It’s still on my changelist. I’m just trying to expand upon it.
I’ve been thinking about if there’s a way to move the Exegol action to Coruscant. After all, it’s a pretty boring planet (like all planets in Abrams SW…which is strange, considering how striking Nibiru was in Star Trek Into Darkness), and having the action take place on Coruscant would tighten up the Saga nicely. That said, you’d have to radically restructure the film, since there’s no way the wild goose chase to Palpatine is gonna lead to the capital of the Galaxy. I’m thinking Kylo instead finds Palpatine on Endor (allowing us to feature RLM’s Ewok death cult) and takes him to a First Order stronghold where he spends the rest of the film. The Sith dagger’s inscriptions would lead group not the wayfinder, but to Palpatine himself, although they are too late. This is probably all too difficult to achieve and riddled with plot holes, now that I think about it, but the point stands:
We. Need. Coruscant!
Not worth re-editing for something so minor, honestly, but you do you.
What if aboard the Supremacy, the heroes pass by evidence of internal division. There’s stromtrooper with stormtrooper prisoners, graffiti honoring Finn, etc…
Hey, if you want to make an epic mega edit of RotS with any footage available, consistency be damned, you can get some decent mileage out of the deleted scenes.
That would just be on the level of “father’s brother’s nephew’s cousin’s former roommate”.
I feel like a version of Orphan 55 where the planet isn’t Earth is a pretty obvious fanedit to make.
So what happened? Disney execs felt that the Clone Rey backstory was too dark.
I’m sorry, what? That doesn’t make any sense on any level.
You know someone on this forum once described RotJ as less of grand finale to the saga and more of an inevitable collapse, and that honestly feels all too appropriate to describe TRoS.
The more I sit on it, the more I really hate Rey Palpatine. I really hate it- I wouldn’t even use hate to describe how I feel about what Johnson did to Luke in TLJ but I hate Rey Palpatine. The force dyad properly elaborated on would have been fully sufficient to explain Rey’s OP-ness, in my opinion. Rey being from nowhere was in retrospect completely in line with the Star Wars ethos and if episode XI had kept with it, and I think it would have allowed that fact to sit well with audiences.
Rey Palpatine never really sat right with me, even the first time I watched it. Once fan edits start coming out of TROS, whatever edit I chose will need to have Rey Palpatine scrapped, no exceptions, but that’s just my taste and my preference. Rey Palpatine will never be canon to me.
This is coming from someone who overall enjoyed the sequels, so don’t accuse me of being a Disney hater or whatever. I understand why JJ did it, and I strongly disagree
JJ loves copying, even the bad. RotJ had a useless convoluted heritage twist (Leia Skywalker), so TRoS does the same.
Of course that’s not the real reason but I find the parallel amusing.
And yeah, I’m pretty sure Fisher’s passing had nothing to do with Trevorrow leaving.
I know it’s a game and not a movie, but I feel like Drawn to Life is a charming game that simply doesn’t live up to its potential. The levels are long and repetitive, and the stuff between them is also repetitive, yet the core concept of drawing parts of the world, as well the core characters and the world itself, are quite compelling. The music is fantastic, too. It’s just a shame it’s bogged down by mediocre gameplay and the WTF ending to the second game that just felt completely out of place and uncalled for, not to mention tonally jarring.
This is a version of the story where he isn’t.
They also didn’t want to conflict with the at the time canon 2D Clone Wars. Honestly, if this takes off and they end up finishing all the remaining unproduced stories, I’d be down to see a prequel season or two with Anakin as a padawan and mullet Obi-Wan, set just after AotC.
Have Luke call Kylo Keelo. Lando mispronounces Han’s name, so it’s poetry.
Forest Moon of Endor - Night
In the distance is a lively Ewok village. Debris is falling from the sky. One chunk too big to burn up is shot down by an X-Wing. Another chunk, though, despite its small size, does not burn up. Instead, it strikes the ground, leaving behind a crater. An Ewok comes to investigate, and a hand weakly reaches out of the crater.
Ewok Village - Night
Several Ewoks arrive carrying a barely moving cadaver. It’s so burned it’s unidentifiable. The others all gasp in amazement.
Ewok Hut - Day
The corpse is seated on a throne of sticks and bones. The Ewoks appear slightly less well groomed. Two more Ewoks show up with another healthier Ewok prisoner. They hold him up to the corpse and he absorbs the poor little furry fellow’s essence, Dark Crystal style. After a moment, the corpse moves his mouth a little. He breathes a sigh of satisfaction. Then, he lets out a maniacal laugh in the unmistakable voice of Palpatine.
Ewok Hut - Night
The Ewoks are now disgustingly mangy. Palpatine is vaguely recognizable. An absurdly tall human in an extravagant outfit enters, accompanied by two First Order stromtroopers. The man bows and after a moment, the stormtroopers confusedly follow his example.
Palpatine: Geraltin Snoke. What took you so long?
Snoke: I’m sorry, my Lord. I sensed you were still out there, but we had to regroup and regain our strength before we could risk a voyage so deep into Republic space.
Palpatine: I trust you have made the preparations for my transportation.
Snoke: Yes, my lord.
One of the stormtroopers brings forth a hovering throne.
Snoke: And what of Lord Vader?
Palpatine: He has succumbed to weakness and gotten the fate he deserved. Think no more of him.
Snoke: Very well.
Palpatine emerges from a bacta tank, looking mildly healthier, but still in poor shape. Snoke, now sporting a large scar across his head, enters, escorting a Gungan prisoner dressed in formal attire.
Gungan: Yousa crazy if yousa think da Senate gonna stand for disa.
Snoke: Oh don’t worry, senator. They will be dealt with soon enough.
Palpatine: I grow tired of these feeble sacrifices. I need you to perform the ancient dyad technique.
Snoke: You mean…?
They both begin chanting Ancient Sith in unison as the gungan is lifted into the air. He starts spinning faster and faster and faster until his eyes start glowing white and then burst into flames that then start pouring out of his mouth and there’s energy going everywhere, and Snoke’s face is being sucked in and boom- …the gungan’s gone.
The energy is absorbed by Palpatine, now looking in decent shape, as he did in The Rise of Skywalker. He stands more firmly, tossing away the cane he had been using. Snoke, now scarred to look as he did in The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi, bows.
Snoke: Welcome back, my lord.
Palpatine: My lord? No. From now on, you shall call me master, Darth Rifficus.
Close up of Snoke’s surprised eyes.
Hercules is public domain. Make that happen (as a novel). I’m sure there’s an audience for it.
How 'bout at the end of TLJ, instead of taking the throne, Kylo goes rogue and Pryde becomes Supreme Leader. Not sure what it would add, but it’d be different. Kylo going rogue Zuko style was what I envisioned him doing before we had the full trilogy, and I still think it’d be kinda neat. Maybe he takes the post of Supreme Leader initially but abandons it and the First Order altogether after the Battle of Crait?
Idk… That seems pretty in line with how the Force works.
Since we’re talking about disappointing aspects of the sequel trilogy, I’d say one of the most disappointing aspects of the trilogy is having The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi take place so close to each other.
They could’ve had The Last Jedi take place two or three years after The Force Awakens, with Rey training under Luke since after The Force Awakens. The Resistance subplot can start off the same (the whole evacuation and space chase stuff), Kylo has continued his training that was mentioned by Snoke in the last film, Rey and Kylo have their interactions, etc. Luke would refuse to leave because he’s worried that he would have to confront Snoke and Kylo, two powerful dark side Force-users, and that he would die, but he is convinced by Anakin/Obi-Wan/Yoda to leave the island and confront them.
These are just random ideas I’m throwing out there.
Reimagine the Yuuzhan Vong into Gigeresque biomechanical monstronsities, and the Yuuzhan Vong gods into Lovecraftian entities, and I’d get behind that.
Make RotJ like Part 2 of the Nutcracker ballet where it’s just people watching musical numbers in Jabba’s palace for two hours.
Wow, that’s a terrible idea. I do love the idea of the Imperial Remnant and New Republic teaming up against an external threat. There’s no doubt in my mind that that threat should be he Yuuzhan Vong, and I say that as someone who’s never read any of the books they’re in. The idea of these super metal looking baddies wielding biotechnology just sounds awesome, and suitably alien for a race from another galaxy.
See this is why I respects Hal’s edits. They’re simple fixes rather than futzing around with the entire continuity. I have having to deviate from Canon in my edits, generally reserving it for the two egregious crimes of contrived lineage twist and more Death Stars (both of which have somehow happened twice). Maybe lightsaber colors, but really, I like to have versions of the films close enough that things line up when looking at external material so the edits aren’t just this weird bubble universe.
My main criticism of fan-edits that I have seen is their titles: In their attempts to replace the corny but sincere original titles with something better, they usually make it worse by trying so hard to be taken seriously. Also, they shouldn’t be shorter than 2 hours.
The comedy sequence with the elevators and R2 does not fit the tone of the movie at all, and it stalls in a movie that is usually very good about not wasting time.
That scene’s a classic!
I agreed that both versions of the RotJ celebration are good and think the SE version would best be moved to the end of the Saga.
As for changes of my own, people always talk about Anakin being a creep in AotC, but Han is just as bad in ESB. Maybe some trims could fix that? I agree the film is grossly overrated.
I think this score would fit perfectly into the rey and kylo Ren fight on the second death star. I hated how there was no big score it was just the waves crashing by. It needed its own Orginal score but this is a good compromise.
Lol I was thinking the same thing. I just wish the mashup wasn’t so trailer-y. You know, over-the-top epic that builds up.
Darth Lucas said:
I’m curious if it would be possible to substitute Starkiller base in TFA with the fleet of mini Death Star Destroyers in TROS. Perhaps it’s a fleet of Star Destroyers where on their own, they’re very powerful, but all together can destroy planets. Like they took the power of the Death Star and spread it out so it wouldn’t be as easy as destroying ONE weapon to take it down, but the enemy would have to destroy every single star destroyer.
Thus, its as dangerous as the Death Star, without simply being another Death Star, and they are more difficult to destroy, as they’re smaller and the first order has more on standby of one is destroyed.
This way the fleet can be a more constant threat throughout the trilogy. (Maybe Starkiller Base functions more as the hangar where the fleet is kept? Idk I’m just spitballing at this point.)
The destruction of the fleet in TROS can feel like more of an ultimate victory. It took all the reinforcements brought by Lando to finally bring them down.
This is what I’ve been saying since TFA came out. Make them planet-destroying star destroyers. The dreadnoughts in TLJ and Sith fleet in TRoS only further validate this idea.