Anakin Starkiller

Idk, I really like the poetry of offing one member of the trio in each film.

I do too as of late, but I feel better now after having a burst of inspiration for a hot half hour earlier. Now it’s gone tho.

Worry not, Mr. Napier. I understood what you meant, albeit only secondhand.

Looks like you need new friends.

Give us the Dyad sex scene we deserve, Lucasfilm!

It’s okay. We’re all failing together. Forming relationships takes a certain amount of trial and error. You often have to go through people who aren’t worth your time to find the ones you can truly depend on.

Still can’t get back into the OT Discord after leaving in a moment’s folly because only mods can send invites and none of them are active except one who responding saying they didn’t have Discord set up so couldn’t help. Is anyone else having this issue?

That actually really puts things into perspective. The Joker analogy makes sense, but he’s still wrong. Regardless, you make an interesting point. I’ll have to think about that.

Like I said, indispensable.

Eyepainter said:

JackNapier said:

I’m going back to work, which means more stress and less time to build relationships.

Not sure what your situation is like, but I managed to make a few friends on Discord, and I’ve found it immensely helpful! If you can find some people who are willing to invite or DM you on Discord, I highly recommend it! 😃

Discord is indispensable for day-to-day socializations, but our monkey brains were not meant for the Internet. We still need in-person relationships.

As per what Eddie Dean said, make Obi-Wan’s lightsaber green with purple polka dots.

Hal 9000 said:

Using talk show interview footage from promoting TFA, add a new Leia line as Rey prepares to confront Palpatine in TROS: “Everbody dies.”

Lol I unironically want to end TRoS with everyone except Ben and Rey dying.

Nindroid243 said:

Is there a way to recolor Snoke into more Gray? I think he looks a lot better in TFA and the way he did in TLJ.

Only manually, I’m afraid. He’s the same color as the humans and the background (red). You could use EbSynth to facilitate the process, put it’d still be largely manual labor.

EddieDean said:

I would really, really like to see an attempt at a communitywide saga edit, where we consider the franchise holistically.

Bad idea. No one would agree on anything so we’d end up with a middle of the road answer for everything and no one would be happy. Your community focus threads are the closest we’ll come and they’re honestly fantastic.

NeverarGreat said:

I imagine that it would be an entire saga edit using an expanded form of the process of Restructured or Ascendant, where people would submit ideas but one person (or in this case some evil council) decided what ultimately made the cut.

Yeah probably.

paja said:

Supercut every digital zoom in the prequels

Happy J.J. Abrams noises.

Speaking of pacing, one thing I noticed with the beginning is how there’s little connection between the opening scene with Vader, and then with R2 and 3PO approaching Jabba’s palace and the rest of the Tatooine sequence. With ANH and ESB, I think the audience can feel this plot baton being passed along from one scene to the next. Sure, we do cut back and forth between our heroes and our villains, but by that point their stories had already been connected in the narrative. I think something that helped this problem originally in ROTJ was the deleted scene of Vader trying to commune with Luke on Tatooine. I assume this scene was cut because they felt his introduction was better served during his entrance to Jabba’s palace, but I do think there are some benefits to restoring it. But obviously an issue with using the deleted scene is the quality not being super great. This wouldn’t be an issue as much for an edit using something like '83 Grindhouse or Puggo Grande (which I’m personally planning to do), but not might work as something that could be shared with other editors wanting to keep the material they use consistent.

What if we just skipped Vader’s scene and went straight from the crawl to Tatooine? I think that would probably flow much better. That scene always felt so tangential thrown in at the start like that. Maybe put it back in later before Dagobah or something.

Are there meaningful relationships to be built in your workplace?

CloakedDragon97 said:

It depends on the episode length.

For the sake of simplicity let’s say ~22 minute episodes. You can divide the total by 2 for an answer for ~44 minute episodes and so on. 20 minutes is generally the smallest unit of episode (not always, but generally).

RogueLeader said:

Absolutely agree, but I still like this idea of reframing them more clearly as lost knowledge.

That’s fair.

Tbh these things don’t really need to be explained, but this could be pointed to for those who needed that kind of question answered.

You’re right that they don’t need to be explained, and the people asking for explanations for that will also want explanations for how the Holdo maneuver only works in that one particular circumstance and who Snoke is where Maz got Luke’s lightsaber and a billion other useless bits of visual dictionary filler.

Those are a lot more than one change per film.

ROTS why and how Padme dies. Could she have lived a year or two on Alderaan? Continuity error from ROTJ.

Fuck RotJ.

Lucas said “balance” was removing the Sith.

It is 90% of the time, and then that other 10% it’s the Mortis arc of TCW where balance is pretty explicitly an equal amount of Light and Dark.

thebluefrog said:

From a narrative perspective, Lucas introduced the Midichlorians and Darth Plagueis in chapter six.

No, he introduced midi-chlorians in chapter four.

That’s a defensible option, given my TLJ edit overruns while my TRoS edit underruns. Alas, I’m not sure it would work narratively, as it’s the resolution for Luke’s arc. It’d be kinda weird ending TLJ with Luke still refusing to help then have him suddenly turn up for some reason at the start of the next one. It honestly might exasperate the issue people have with TRoS undoing TLJ.

Anakin only destroys the Sith on an absolute technicality.

I feel like that’s the entire point. The Jedi misinterpreted the Prophecy. This is a common mythological trope.

Anyway, Chosen Ones and prophecies are dumb and Anakin isn’t the OT’s protagonist, but that’s just my two cents. You guys can believe whatever you want.

Concerning the stormtrooper thing, I think Lucas just meant the Empire in general would keep fighting, and the bad guys would be the successors to the stormtroopers. He didn’t literally mean stormtroopers. Lucas often makes silly little mistakes in SW terminology.

Why not reincarnation?

That would certainly alleviate pacing issues, as the film as it stands feels like it has two final acts piled on to each other, which, combined with the runtime, makes it feel like movie really should’ve ended after the Holdo Maneuver.

Anyone have any ideas on how to reduce the RotJ retreading with the Throne Room scene? I feel like it’s too baked in so the only way to get rid of it would be to eliminate the scene entirely, and it’s too plot critical for that.

And that’s where the mistake lies in my opinion. The protagonist of the Saga is NOT the Skywalker family as a whole, the protagonist of the Saga is Anakin. George himself said it several times. Anakin is the protagonist of the entire Saga. The moment Anakin dies then the main film Saga ends, because its protagonist is dead and therefore there’s nothing more to tell.

George can say whatever he wants, but the fact of the matter is that defining Darth Vader in the OT as a protagonist is just flat-out wrong. Looking at it in vacuum, the films’ protagonists are as follows:

TPM: Qui-Gon
AotC: Obi-Wan, Anakin, Padme
RotS, Obi-Wan, Anakin
ANH: Luke, Han
TESB: Luke, Han, Leia
RotJ: Luke
TFA: Rey, Finn
TLJ: Rey, Finn, Poe
TRoS: “REY!!!”

You can debate some of the specifics here like counting Leia in ANH or Padme in TPM, but the gist is that. Personally, I’d consider Palpatine the overarching throughline, but that’s just me.

I don’t like the name Skywalker Saga because it puts a disproportionate emphasis on Anakin, Luke, and debatably Rey while undercutting the contributions of others like Han and Obi-Wan.