I didn’t mean to imply that every scene of the Falcon is there purely because of nostalgia, just that its initial inclusion was very much for that purpose (and to get Han on board).
Hence why I would still feature the Falcon in TFA.
I completely rewrote the first post to provide a general overview of my goal with these edits. Maybe I should add banners for each point like in the Dawn of War thread, though.
If you think Broomboy is getting his own movie, I think you’ve completely misunderstood the meaning of that final scene.
I think the trilogy should have its own ship. The Prequels had Padme’s ships, which, while different in each film, all had the same interior, as well as the same chrome texture on the exterior. The Originals had the Millenium Falcon, obviously. The Sequels have…also the Falcon. How about the Falcon is destroyed when it crashes on Starkiller Base. All subsequent scenes featuring it would have another ship in its place. I really hope Episode IX introduces a ship like this to make adding more natural, not to mention not having to design it ourselves. The main issue will be rotoscoping the characters whenever they’re in the Falcon cockpit to place them in the new ship’s cockpit instead. That would probably be a nightmare. We could simply cut most of those shots, since they aren’t that important. We’d be cutting the shot of Luke in it anyways, since all he does is look at the familiar cockpit and retrieve the dice, none of which works if it isn’t the Falcon.
Yeah, that’s me.
EPISODES 7 & 8 Restructured
The Last Jedi has memorable moments and quality visuals but really lacks in character development when in regards to The Force Awakens. The Force Awakens has more clear character arcs. For this reason I want to reorganize, edit, and add in FX. I am however not too experienced with editing. I’ve been using VSDC Free Editor and have been liking it. I need to know how to incorporate surround sound, Rotoscoping FX, generally I just need more experience. The highlights of this edit I suppose is that Rey does not use force powers until she meets Luke, Han dies during Episode VIII instead of VII, and that Starkiller Base is also saved for Episode VIII. Its like the last act of my episode 7 is the last act of The Last Jedi, re-edited, and then the 1st act of my episode 8 is the last act of The Force Awakens.Episode VII
• The film plays out normally until Finn and Rey escape from Jakku in the Millennium Falcon. Finn and Rey then introduce each other. Finn asks BB-8 to take them to the Resistance base. Kylo Ren is upset that the droid escaped with the help of Finn and Rey. The film will play out differently from here. • Finn and Rey arrive on Yavin IV and are immediately met with Han Solo and Chewbacca. No Ranthar chase, cut them hiding under the floor and just cut to han asking about who stole the Falcon. Han talks about Luke and the force. • Finn and BB-8 exit the Falcon and find Poe Dameron alive (Cut Finn asking Poe for Help). Finn and Poe enter the base and speak with Princess Leia. (Only include thank yous, finn and leia do not need help.) • BB-8 meets C3PO and 3PO explains how R2D2 has been in sleep mode since Lukes disappearance. • Cut to Rey going down into the basement and finding Anakin’s blue lightsaber. • R2D2 then wakes up to help show the way to Luke. • Rey leaves and goes to find Luke. (Not really sure if she should take the Falcon though. This is where Rotoscoping might be nice to incorporate a different ship for her on Acto because Han Solo is still alive.) • With Rey gone the First Order arrive using the footage from the Maz Kanata castle raid scene. Han, Chewie, and Finn fight them off on the ground as Poe Dameron takes to the skys. • Using the evacuation of Yavin Base from The Last Jedi, the Resistance leave Yavin IV. Poe destroys the dreadnaught. The ship takes off into hyperspace. (Cut out General Hux) • Rey arrives on Acto with a different ship and meets Luke Skywalker. • The Resistance run to the abandoned Crait Base and wait for the First Order to follow them there. Luke appears and helps the resistance escape with his force projection. (Han and Chewie are rotoscoped into the scene with Luke and Leia. I had scene a post where a user mentioned doing this along with Han flying the Falcon off Crait.) Rey is not here.Episode VIII
I am honestly not entirely sure on the order of the scenes for episode VIII yet. Need to watch The Last Jedi more first. The general idea is that Han Solo dies in Episode VIII, then Leia dies after the Tie Fighters blow up the Ship, and Luke dies after Rey does not turn to the dark side and join Ben.
• Kylo Ren is told by Snoke to kill his parents. • General Hux Starkiller Base Nazi speech. • Possibly actually have Maz Kanata’s Castle and using the shots of the Falcon on the outskirts of the castle make it seem like the whole Resistance is there. Even if we take out Maz Kanata herself we could at least probably show the bar scene and then show the Resistance on the outskirts, kinda like they are just camping out not really trying to stay in one place to long. • The Resistance talks about how they can take down Starkiller Base. (Trim scene to make Admiral Ackbar, Han, and Leia the only ones who really know how to take down Starkiller Base) • Leia tells Han to bring their son home. • Rey following Luke. Luke drinks some Blue Milk. • Han, Chewie, and Finn land on Starkiller Base. • Rey goes to Starkiller Base to try to turn Ben to the lightside against Lukes advice. She meets up with Han, Chewie, and Finn. Han Solo is killed by his son. (Have to assume she still has the Rotoscoped ship and not the Falcon.) • Starkiller Base destroys the Hosnian System/Corosaunt. • Finn gets sliced in the back by Kylo. Rey returns him to the resistance. She hugs Leia and leaves in the Falcon with Chewie and R2D2. as she goes back to Luke. • Rey comes back to Luke in the Falcon along with Chewie and he asks what happened to Han. This is why Luke not that nice to Rey throughout the movie because of the death of his friend. • Leia dies by Kylo Ren’s Tie fighters. The Luke and Yoda scene should follow shortly after and Luke almost burns the texts out of rage because he felt Leia’s death. • Rey leaves Luke again to go to Snokes ship after the dark side mirror cave. Finn wakes up and asks Poe where Rey is and that is how he ends up on Snokes ship. A chance to fight Phasma after she disables the shields in the same movie. • Luke dies after we see that Rey does not make the decision to join the dark side with Kylo, because like Yoda his mission was completed in training The Last Jedi. End Credits, no broom boy. All the original trilogy actors now all die together in this movie.This is just a general concept idea I have been thinking about. Like I said I really have to watch The Last Jedi more.
Very radical restructure. Sounds interesting. I wonder if mixing the two films so much would make for better tonal and stylistic consistency, as the lack thereof is one of the trilogy’s greatest flaws.
Moving the evacuation of D’Qar to Episode VII would mean we would miss out on seeing the way in which Rose’s sister Paige died (unless you leave it in anyways, in which case it would just feel awkward, since it’s setting irrelevant to the rest of the plot until the next episode). I guess it’s not critical, but it’s a nice moment.
As a sidenote the Resistance base is not on Yavin IV. It’s on a planet called D’Qar. Also, the correct spellings would be Ach-To and Coruscant.
I think it looks awkwardly blocky without the curve. The part that irks me most is the thin pole sticking out of the bottom. Besides, it’s not as visually distinct as the Eclipse-class.
Of course, this is all just my opinion, and I don’t mean to imply Snooker shouldn’t use it. He clearly prefers it.
I think the Sovereign-class looks dumb, and intend to use the Eclipse-class for my edit. However, you did a nice job with the CGI of the shuttle and fighters. Would it be possible for you to provide me those with just a greenscreen behind?
I assumed it was Palpatine’s Office, though I don’t see why you’d want more scenes there. Even George Lucas realized the movie spent too much time there, hence why the Tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise is told in an opera house.
I don’t see any difference beyond the upper lip.
I just watched a comparison clip of Yoda in Revisited, and I honestly can’t tell the difference.
Sir Ridley said:
The puppet is pretty great otherwise, but the mouth is so important for his appearance. It looks like he lost his teeth.Hence my argument that a muppet should be used for Yoda, but with CGI mouth movements. In fact, I see no reason the same approach couldn’t be taken with a host of characters that are either animatronics or actors with prosthetics. The Nemoidians are examples of the latter, and while they were lame characters anyway, because of the writing, at the very least they would have looked better if their mouths had been animated.
The Neimoidians were originally meant to be CGI using the design that was eventually used for the Geonosians (hence why the battle droids resemble them). However, despite what the special features might have you believe, CGI was not all-powerful in 1999, so they had to make them with masks. Maybe they had simply blown the budget on Watto and the Gungans?
Tarkin was quite well done, but Leia was pretty bad.
What?! Leia looked absolutely perfect. It’s Tarkin that was a little off.
Wait Dark Lord of Tech from /r/truezelda? Nice seeing you here! Wait a minute… Have we already had this exchange, or am I thinking of someone else?
Oh I’ve got nothing wrong with Paja doing any of this. I’m just mystified by the logic behind the particular changes. They’re certainly not changes I would’ve made, but that’s fine.
I don’t get the reasoning behind any of these color changes. I prefer the original in pretty much every one. The one after Dooku’s death particularly annoys me because it does the complete opposite of what I’m doing in my edits. It switches the panels from red to blue, presumably to match the Emperor’s throne room, whereas I switched the Emperor’s throne room panels from blue to red to reflect his affiliation with the dark side.
Here’s the Emperor’s command ship:
https://gfycat.com/FeminineWaterloggedKakarikisJEDIT: Hi-rez screenshot:
Looks like snokes ship in the Last Jedi
I much prefer the Legends design of the Eclipse. The curve is the part that’s really missing from this one.
Mark’s Down On Your Syntax said:
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I half-jokingly wondered if somebody had used this app for porno purposes. Then my curiosity got the better of me. Now I need therapy. The things I’ve seen should not be seen.
It’s like the plot of the second X-Files movie only with computers performing the surgery. What the hell is wrong with people?! How can THAT possibly be erotic?
Sweet Christmas.
Wow…just wow…
Don’t look! Don’t any of you look! Just trust me, it’s all kinds of wrong.
You’re weeks too late with this warning.
I’m sorry. I’m so sorry.
Big, sad emojiface.
Should’ve just put a gif of the Tenth Doctor.
The face is too big.
This. He almost looks like an anime character (and we all know how bad that is).
Is anime hated 'round these parts?
I like anime. Even if i have only seen 1 or 4.
You can say 1 or 2, or 3 or 4, but 1 or 4?
I feel like the smaller superlaser is simply the obvious way forward. Think of the First Order Dreadnought. It’d be something along those lines. About as powerful as one of the Death Star’s many lasers.
Also I think the shortest I would let the film be is 1h 50m. The hardest part will be keeping the Jabba part long enough.
Really, if cutting filler isn’t your priority, the Jabba part should be the easiest to keep long enough. I say leave alone until everything else is done and cut accordingly afterwards.
As for the purpose of the Endor bunker, I think it should be a planetary shield around Coruscant Had Abbadon like the one around Scarif in RO. I just don’t see any better of implementing Had Abbadon. The thing is you’d have to give them a target there. Personally, I’d like to move the throne room there for my edit (in the Jedi High Council’s tower of the Jedi Temple, specifically), but it would be a rotoscoping nightmare. If I ever were to do it, though, I would replace the stars with a greenscreen for everyone to use.
Btw, I just realized Coruscant is like croissant.
You said many force users would be self-taught and the art of lightsaber crafting lost.
Here’s another idea I have in mind. A SW story that takes place in the distant future, the state of the Galaxy, wether it’s being ruled by an evil Empire or the Republic managed to pull through is kept deliberately vague, the Jedi are but a rumour, and it’s unclear if Rey’s efforts to restore the Jedi Order were successful or not, thus many Force-wielders are largely self-taught, with some using the Force to help others much in the same spirit the ancient Jedi used to do and others for self-gain, managing to become rulers of planets and even entire star systems. The knowledge of lightsaber construction has been lost for the most part, thus making them a rare sight in the Galaxy.
And here I’d introduce a bounty hunter as the progatonist who is secretely a Force wielder, alternating between the light and the dark.
Please no. I’ve had enough of the Jedi being extinct. Two purges is too much. You already have two eras to play around with that idea.
How about make the imperial capitol courrsuant?
That’s not really in the spirit of the edit, and I don’t know if Snooker intends this to work alongside his Prequel edits or be a standalone thing that contradicts them.
