Anakin Starkiller

Oh, misread it.

That’s not surprising.

Like I said, I wasn’t sure whether to put this in Fanedits or General SW Discussion, but given where this conversation is going, I should’ve put it in the Cantina.

CatBus said:

Collipso said:

dooku became dookan because dooku would sound like ‘do cu’, which means ‘from the asshole’, so yeah.

It has a similar problem in English, but they didn’t change it for us 😕

What language?

I was gonna put this in the Fan Edits category, but decided against it. Mods, feel free to move it (if you’re able to) depending which direction the discussion goes.

One thing I’m working on for my edits is changing the color of certain things to suit their thematic meaning. Star Wars is really inconsistent when it comes to color meanings. Good guys are blue and green (and occasionally other colors) for lightsabers, but their blasters are red in the OT. Bad guys are red for lightsabers and blasters, except the Empire and First Order ships shoot green, and the Sith Lightning is blue. It’s all over the place.

Since my edits are meant to avoid contradicting canon too much, and because I don’t have time to recolor everything frame-by-frame, I don’t want to change everything. However I am changing the following:

-I want to do something about the Jedi lightsabers colours in the Prequels, though I’m not quite sure what.

-The Alderaan Security Force troopers will shoot blue blaster bolts.

-The blue things in the Emperor’s throne room will be red. I’m considering making Force Lightning red when deadly (still blue when non-lethal).

The ship blast colors in the Originals was based on the Cold War tracers (red for the Americans, green for the Soviets). It was a bad decision to go with that in hindsight, but at around that stage in development lightsabers were still colorless, so it made sense.

How do you guys feel about the inconsistent colors?

Apparently early on, Padme was gonna have a knife in hand when she hugs Anakin on Mustafar, intending to kill him but not being able to bring herself to do it. I think that would’ve been really powerful. I suppose it can’t feasibly be edited in, though.

I knew Handman had to be referring to Time of the Doctor. I thought it was obvious by the way he described his family’s confusion. I guess it could’ve been the Husbands of River Song, but for some reason I was just thinking of Matt Smith. Personally, I think Christmas Specials would work better as post-regeneration episodes, since it’s more climactic to have the regeneration episode be the series finale. Wanting Christmas Specials to be accessible is just another reason to add on to that.

Puggo, that’s all well and good, but I don’t think that’s very helpful in giving a newcomer a starting position. You’re more just listing good episodes.

And FFS, people, it’s Davison and Eccleston, not Davidson and Ecclestone.

I agree that Blink is a bad first episode, however, I have a come up with an untested viewing order of Blink, Love & Monsters, and then everything else starting with Rose. This order builds up the Doctor as some mysterious figure, with people trying to find him until we finally are properly introduced to him personally partway through Rose.

As for Mummy on the Orient Express, although having not seen it since it aired, you’re not alone in recommending it to newcomers.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WI3_HrRctQw

…and they ruined it! Well that didn’t take long.

I’ve considered watching Dr. Who. I have no idea where to start. Can someone point me in the right direction? Should I just watch the best episodes to see if I like the concept? Should I start with a certain series? Does it matter? I’d like to know because I think it’s daunting.

There are a few good places to start. An Unearthly Child is the first episode, but given the 60s episodes are in black and white and 50% missing, they’re not recommended for beginners. If you don’t mind some low-budget 70s effects, start with Spearhead from Space. The modern series (a revival after 16 years off the air, save for a TV movie) starts with the questionably titled Rose. Anytime the showrunner changes is a good time to hop on, so The Eleventh Hour and, wouldn’t you know it, the new series airing next month. All these starting spots introduce everything you need to know, so you won’t feel lost.

So yeah, my recommendation is to hop on when the new series starts on October 7th. Just keep in mind that everything in the series besides the basic format changes, so don’t take anything as representative of the show as a whole.

That was much better, and not just because of the music.

yotsuya said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

Science fantasy is an oxymoron. Star Wars is fantasy. Space fantasy if you want to be specific. The problem is people tend to equate fantasy to the past and sci-fi to the future, and see them as otherwise interchangeable. In reality, sci-fi is more like a historical story set in the future. It’s supposed to be believable as something that could happen in our world.

That is the definition of Hard Science Fiction. Most science fiction does not fit that definition. Arthur Clarke wrote hard science fiction. Isaac Asimov wrote what gets called soft science fiction. The distinction is scientific accuracy vs. science inspired. All of Lucas’s inspirations in the science fiction genre are soft science fiction (Dune, Foundation, Buck Rogers, Flash Gordon). The emphasis is not on science but on using what science can project to tell a story of adventure. Lucas sets his as a fable by placing it a long time ago in a galaxy far far away, but he is not the first to do that or the only one.

To be science fiction, it has be about science.

Anyway, we’re going on tangent endlessly debating something nobody is likely to change their minds on. Let’s get back on topic.

Glad he learned his lesson.

Science fantasy is an oxymoron. Star Wars is fantasy. Space fantasy if you want to be specific. The problem is people tend to equate fantasy to the past and sci-fi to the future, and see them as otherwise interchangeable. In reality, sci-fi is more like a historical story set in the future. It’s supposed to be believable as something that could happen in our world.

Every time there’s a lightsaber duel, cut to Palpatine saying “yeah”.

paja said:

Well, I just watched Ghost in the shell (1995) for the second time, and I love it even more!

It took me twice to fully understand it, but maybe that’s just because I lost interest around two thirds of the way through the first time.

The Rider

A movie that’s so clueless as to how to tell a story that it’s mind-numbingly dull. I’m not hyperbolizing when I say I’d just as soon watch the SW Holiday Special.

Oh, come on. Don’t noobs deserve a warning?

Have you not uploaded all the major changes you’d made as previews? I know I always do.

If someone who does a good William Hartnell impression could dub over David Bradley for the Doctor Who story Twice Upon a Time, that’d be nice.

Someone actually tested that?

DuracellEnergizer said:

Possessed said:

RogueLeader said:

But the better answer is that it’s just Star Wars, the same galaxy where starships fly like there is air friction, where you can hear sound in space, and giant worms live in asteroids. Did I forget to mention the space wizards with laser swords?

It’s this

It’s true. All of it. From a certain point of view.

Definitely saving that quote.

What if someone edited Back to the Future II to be more like actual 2015? Not exactly, of course (as with all interpretations of the future, it will, ironically, always be very dated), but just close enough to really feel all too familiar. You could add the Skype or Discord logo to Marty’s video chat with his boss. Replace Jaws 19 with Jurassic World or The Force Awakens (perhaps under the name Star Wars 7). Add some extras who are on their phones. Play some hit song from 2015 when Marty arrives to mirror Power of Love for 1985 and Mr. Sandman for 1955. Maybe one of the McFlies speaks to Siri or Alexa.

yotsuya said:

MalàStrana said:

For myself I would say I don’t hate any of them and I would, some day, rewatch every single one of them, but I can’t pretend that I like TPM, AOTC, R1, Solo, TFA… (I like some of them when propertly fan edited though) I can enjoy them, find qualities, rewatch a few sequences and be glad to see the “SW soul” supplement in them compared to the average blockbuster, but I honestly don’t like all of them. As a whole, it’s different, and maybe the “I-IX” experience may give the Saga something more as a complete movement than what just separate entries do.

ATOC and TFA are the only ones I did not fully enjoy on my first viewing. Both have segments that just took me right out of the film and derailed the story for me and I have never been able to recover from that. Both need a good fan edit (I would do it very lightly with as few changes as possible) to bring them up to the nearest stories. I cannot say I hate any of them, but those two I have the most profound issues with. Though in contemplating it, one of my issues with TFA has led to a personal retcon that solves a lot of issues for the entire Star Wars universe. Still, it would be a better movie if that was not needed. And the sections of ATOC are just bad and need to be axed.

Indeed AotC’s bad bits, while pretty bad, are relatively harmless. It doesn’t uproot the story or universe. It’s just bad scenes and/or dialogue that can easily be cut. It’s not the same as the problems some people have with TLJ or that I have with RotJ that come from taking the saga in an infuriatingly terrible direction. Granted, some of the problems are also the sort of harmless, easily removed, stuff with no implications down the line, like AotC, which just makes them even worse.

Out of curiosity, what is the headcanon you mentioned concerning TFA?

Official Lego models are all put a few hours in an oven to test their endurance towards the equivalent of a year in the sun. The Ultimate Collector’s Series Millennium Falcon, however, was too big to fit in an oven so they took it to a sauna instead.

There is no truly bad SW movie. Solo is really mediocre, though.