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Lorewise there’s supposed to be a mountain peak under it. Would be neat to visualize that somehow.

Looks great, but I really need a side-by-side comparison to truly judge. I think you’re onto something in bringing out the blacks.

That DeviantArt account is also a great resource.

I want Fortress Vader as well for the same reason. I’m looking to make a 100% self-contained nine film Saga so I’m trying to find a spot for this perfectly fitting setting in the OT using existing footage. Best I can come up with is trying to fit the scene from Obi-Wan Kenobi into ANH.

I’m happy to see someone else caring as much as I do about the look of planets.

Might I suggest making Naboo go through seasons? In TPM it’s summer, representing the Republic standing strong. In AotC it’s fall, representing the slowly crumbling Republic. In RotS, it’s a snowy winter, representing the dissolution of the Republic. This also evenly spreads the workload, since TPM, which features Naboo prominently, wouldn’t need to be altered at all, while the hardest edit to pull off (adding snow) would be relegated to a movie that only features one brief scene on Naboo.

idea from a DeviantArt user named Andres

Without a link and with such a generic name it’s impossible to find the picture(s) you’re referring to.

I’m not sure why you wanna change Alderaan though. It’s fine the way it is, and its appearance is so brief.

There is an excellent shot of Vader’s smoldering mask in a bonfire in this fan film for anyone looking to explore the mask’s journey into Kylo’s possession.

For those interested in reintegrating the Tosche Station scene, this fan film opens on an establishing shot that could work well for it, making the place seem a little less barren. Granted, it’s a bit too cluttered, and I would remove most of the ships in the sky, but besides that you just need to cut to Luke before whatshername enters the frame. I think it would blend really well with the 1997 Mos Eisley.

I tried to get Vicrul on Mustafar as well but there was no way for me to pass off the leafy green forest as the same woods Kylo’s in no matter how much I color graded.

Vicrul Ren on Takodana
Additional shot of Kylo in the woods on Mustafar

Let’s be honest, J.J. made the Knights themselves basically bad Kylo Ren cosplayers.

Actually they’re literally repurposed Kylo Ren concept art.

Well you’re going around every thread on the forum proposing outlandish ideas that regardless of merits are not feasible from a technical standpoint. I appreciate your creativity but edit threads aren’t the place for things that can’t realistically be done with existing footage.

If you’re paying to learn skills in the age of the Internet you’re doing it wrong.

You can’t get any talent without putting in the effort. Start small and build your way up.

This is an edit thread, not a rewrite thread.

T-202 said:

This version definitely works the best so far in my opinion.

This. It’s not great per say but it’s easily the best so far. I still don’t fully buy that it’s the same location and the constant cutting is a bit erratic but really the biggest issue is that it’s still not clear to me without prior knowledge that it’s one of the knights talking. Still, I think we’re getting somewhere.

The one you posted after the one T-202 is talking about is worse. The second shot of the knights feels random and redundant. I think the one T-202 complemented is solid, but I would cut to the creature’s head when the knight says "creature, skipping the shot of the officers at the table. If you need to, put it in after the severed head.

there was the problem of the off-screen voice which sounds too much like a Kylo impression.

Easy solution: make the knight female. An accent would work too.

I decided to go snooping about fan film footage for the Knights of Ren, and I actually found this fan film with usable footage of everyone’s favorite Vicrul. I figure it’d be neat to make Vicrul a woman, so let’s roll with that idea. This footage could be used in two places.

The first one would be a single shot of her talking to Kylo in place of the stormtroopers on Takodana (“We need more troops.”) since it would accomplish the same thing while establishes the Knights of Ren early on as Kylo’s underlings.

The second one would be to have her fighting alongside Kylo on Mustafar. When the fighting is done, Kylo turns his head in response to her addressing him, followed by a shot of her explaining they found the wayfinder. Then cut to this shot from an entirely different fan film to give the infamously rushed scene more room to breath as Kylo finally reaches the wayfinder.

Is this gonna suddenly turn Vicrul into some fascinating important character? No, but it subtly gives the Knights of Ren a bit more of a presence through her. This way they feel less like random goons that show in the last movie to get killed (assuming you put Mustafar in TLJ).

Okay but how would you actually do that? Are you volunteering, to model, texture, animate, and rotoscope it?

Reminder that George Lucas commissioned several nude twi’lek paintings.

I for one would’ve appreciated Rian Johnson’s quote about Ben and Rey touching being taken a lot more literally, but they obviously couldn’t in family-friendly Star Wars.

Patali said:

• I don’t have much of an opinion on eras beyond, because I think the storytelling potential of focusing in a close time period is so much greater than spreading thin to multiple disconnected eras. I did love both Kotor games back in the day, but a problem I have is, it’s supposed to be set 4000 years before, yet it doesn’t feel like it. If you told me it was 1000 years, I might believe that easier. But the lack of change over so long I think is unreasonable, and honestly dissapointing. In terms of design, I think High Republic actually did great in terms of style and palettes. I buy the idea that its the 100 years before the PT. But Old Republic being 4000 years? No way, not even a chance. In my personal head canon, it is only 1000 years before. And I think that is the danger in jumping so freely in the timeline outside of what is developed already.

This 100%. The technological and political stagnancy over literal millennia is laughable and immersion breaking. It’s just a roundabout way of making an alternate universe at that point. Remember the hyperdrive booster rings in the Prequels? How 'bout every starfighter needs them. And if you go further back only capital ships have hyperdrives. Little touches like that to make it feel older.

His explanation for Vader losing power

I’ve never heard any such thing in the movies or even EU. Only from fans powerscaling by saying he lost midichlorians in his limbs.

TPM in general looks a lot less digital. It’s the only one that came out in the 90s and was shot on film and it shows. Pop culture digitized seemingly overnight when the new millennium came and the difference is night and day. The Prequels being one set of films manage to mask it better than most, but a subtle difference is still there.

That’s been my traditional approach as well, but lately I’ve been assessing the potential for better solutions, hence keeping her on D’Qar 'til TLJ.

Servii said:

I don’t agree. The crawl does not explain the situation well. It was never clear to me whether the Trade Federation was for or against the trade route taxes, and the movie never specifies. It tells us the taxation is in dispute. That’s all.

They’re a large corporation literally named the Trade Federation. It feels implicit to me they’re against taxation.

G&G-Fan said:

And in the same video he says TPM should be judged in the context of having seen the OT first, but then also later admits that Lucas wanted this to be the first movie. It should be judged as the latter, which is where the movie becomes even worse, because it’s a bad introduction to Star Wars.

I genuinely don’t believe Lucas intended TPM to be viewed first and personally think that’s an incorrect viewing order for first time viewers (I prefer doing chronological rewatches).

Concerning the crawl discussions, I was wondering if you could mention the Trade Federation targetting Naboo for its valuable plasma. As is, it’d be a bit of a clumsy inclusion, but the plasma is there in the movie’s visual subtext, and I can’t help but feel more could be done with it. Granted, the crawl’s maybe not the place for that.

Darth Raditz said:

I watched Q2’s Episode 1 edit for the first time yesterday and it got me thinking: Could you make Maul the Sith that the Trade Federation is in league with? You’d have to darken his face in his hood, cut out frames in the Tatooine lightsaber duel that show his face off, maybe even shoot new footage of Maul alone on Tatooine to sell the idea, but it would be fun to redub his lines and make him more of an active villain in the movie. Plus that “but which was destroyed, the master or the apprentice” line hits harder because there’s another Sith still out there, especially if you’re not teasing that Palpatine’s behind it all too early.

I’ve actually always wanted to replace Sidious with Dooku. You can still keep him introducing Maul that way and it serves to give the Prequels a more unifying villain.

vranir said:

Agreed. Tipping Palpatine too early is one of the biggest issues I have with the prequels. Yes, it’s obvious for old-school fans, but it’d be cool if he was a mystery to new viewers, just as he is to the characters.

If you ask me, the Prequels are way better when you know Palpatine is Sidious. Otherwise he’s just this random politician we’re spending an awfully long time on. Seeing him build himself up as Emperor is far more entertaining.

Peter Pan said:

For example, there was this idea floating around on this site about changing the motivation of the Naimodians to aquiring the energy technology of the Naboo in order to power a larger droid army.

Ah-ha! See this is what I was talking about when I said there’s potential in exploring the plasma subtext. If plasma powers the droids, that gives a clear motive for the Trade Federation to invade while also posing the ominous question of what they need this droid army for if it’s not just for invading Naboo.

It just occurred to me that Anakin’s scene in the World Between Worlds from Ahsoka could be spliced in when Rey is knocked out by Palpatine. I’ve said before that this would be a good place for a King’s Cross type scene like DotF had and this is certainly the material for it. Ideally, I’d have Rey speak with Luke and Ben speak with Anakin, but given the limited material it’d probably have be only Rey speaking with Anakin.

BedeHistory731 said:

Do you have some examples of the bad arguments? I can see how a lot of it can be less-than-convincing for some.

I saw them once ages ago, I just remember thinking their arguments were a whole lotta nothing so of course none of them stuck in my head.

Fan_edit_fan said:

Nah, the Plinkett reviews had excellent presentation and idiotic arguments.

That’s bait. 😁

No, I can assure you I am dead serious.