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#1425185
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Your ideal Star Wars Sequel Trilogy
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Much of the broad strokes would be the same but the execution would be far more…indulgent in my style.

There’d be no nostalgic iconography everywhere. The First Order would likely use the Guavian design for its troopers. Hell, Sidon Ithano could be Phasma. The Resistance also gain a more iconic trooper design, and would also ditch the orange jumpsuits for pilots. X-wings and TIE fighters are nowhere to be seen. Jakku is Tatooine, while other planets are given more iconic designs. Some might even be swapped out with worlds from other material like Christophsis, Lothal, Scarif, or Teth. The only planet left exactly as is is Crait. The music could use some work too. More original themes and less Binary Sunset over and over again.

There’d be no Snoke. Just use Palpatine, or if we need someone else then Darth Krayt. The last film would end with the Battle of Coruscant and Ben and Rey fighting zombie mecha Palpatine in the Sith Temple deep below Coruscant’s Jedi Temple. To me Palpatine being the villain is non-negotiable as he’s what ties the Saga together. People can say that ruins the originals but to me it’s seeing the bigger picture. I don’t care about altering earlier installments if it means the cohesion of the whole of the story. The finality of RotJ doesn’t make sense in my nine film paradigm. It’s a trilogy of trilogies, so we need the villain alive 'til the end.

Probably the biggest change would be the number of Force users. The insistence on sticking to only two lightsaber wielders to mimic the OT is insulting. Rather than a Second Jedi Purge, there is a sort of Jedi civil war. On one side are Luke’s light side loyalists and on the other the Knights of Ren. Thus we end up with about a dozen different lightsaber users. It’s a small enough amount for us to become somewhat familiar with them without making them all important characters. They’d have roles akin to the Dwarves in The Hobbit. Darth Talon would be one of the Knights of Ren. There’d be a big battle between the two groups on Ach-To during the second film.

The politics would be clarified within the first film. The Republic is in a proxy war between the Resistance and the First Order. Poe never fake dies in TFA. He’s on Jakku with Finn and Rey. The last film is far more mystical and esoteric. It deals with stuff like the Whills and Mortis. Oh and stormtrooper rebellion, Starkiller Base is swapped out for a dreadnought and Rey Nobody. That goes without saying.

The Force Awakens and The Rise of Skywalker have the same titles, but The Last Jedi is swapped out for something that doesn’t reuse a non-negligible word from a previous title. It should be something that “rhymes” with Attack of the Clones and The Empire Strikes Back. I guess March of the First Order or something but idk, that sounds kinda weak. I’m sure there’s a better alternative.

Kylo as supreme leader is unhinged, and Hux - instead of staying a joke character after TLJ - would be so dissatisfied with his leadership that he contacts the Sith Eternal to resurrect Palpatine through a clone body. When this is revealed, the First Order splits into two factions, Hux’s faction being led by Palpatine and the smaller group loyal to Kylo Ren

Lol, this is the spitting image of my TRoS rewrite pitch.

-Feel free to ditch the trilogy format if necessary. If the plot makes more sense with only an Episode 7 and 8, go with it. If the plot needs 4 or 5 movies to tell, go with it.

-The conflict of the entire Star Wars saga ends here. There can more sagas, other sagas, but this saga ends here. And with good finality.

Those to me are contradictory.

Instead of striving for a shared universe like Marvel and DC, just let various series and movies be independent of each other.

That pretty much is what DC’s doing now.

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#1424815
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Direct references to the PT that were made in Disney’s ST
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I’d argue the name Darth Sidious in TLJ and the clone army line in TFA are the only true references to the Prequels. If no one told you who the Jedi voices were you wouldn’t question it. They’re just past Jedi, doesn’t matter who they are, and that includes Obi-Wan. Granted, Anakin does mention bringing balance to the Force, so I guess that’s one for TRoS. Oh and the RotS quote from Palps.

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#1424814
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Did G. Lucas ever intend to portray the Jedi as a flawed institution in the prequels? Or was it added later in the EU?
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I think some of it had to be intentional. The Jedi are far too arrogant and flawed in the Prequels for them to have been intended to be the moral high ground. Obviously, they’re still good guys you’re supposed to root for, but even heroes have flaws. Remember the Prequels are about the decay of democracy.

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#1424797
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Idea: OT Edits to Fit the PT and/or the Larger Saga (A Resource Thread, Hopefully)
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But that’s getting a little off-track, since this is the OT edits to fit the PT and ST thread, not the PT and ST edits to fit the OT thread.

I feel like fitting any trilogy with any other ought to be allowed here, no? Then again, that might end overshadowing the OT edit ideas.

That would be awesome, along with changing the ESB crawl to “Sith Lord” where it currently reads “evil lord”.

I never noticed it said that! That’s such an obvious change to make, how come this is the first I’ve heard of anyone suggesting it?

I’d hope that single word could be tracked, masked out, and replaced seamlessly rather than recreating the entire crawl. Each of the OT’s crawls feel unique, especially ESB.

Call me a revisionist, but I prefer consistency, i.e. all crawls being formatted identically.

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#1424208
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Idea: OT Edits to Fit the PT and/or the Larger Saga (A Resource Thread, Hopefully)
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Aside from that, if the Jedi Order is a failure and all the Jedi are dicks from the very beginning of the saga, then how could their complete destruction at the hands of the Empire and Vader have any sort of impact or significance?

It’s about the Sith striking after the Jedi had fallen into decadence. The idea here is that the Jedi aren’t fundamentally bad, but that they had become bad over centuries.

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#1423831
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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Has anyone tried making a version of Rey and Ben’s kiss that has a hint of Across the Stars?

A few of us have, although I don’t have any links on me.

then add as many shots as we can of people throughout the galaxy reacting to it.

This is giving me PTSD of all those attempts people made at overlaying Palpatine’s Fortnite message over footage of the bar from AotC and whatnot. It really does not work well, which simply proves we don’t have enough footage. That said, it might be feasibly to obtain the necessary footage from scouring enough fanfilms.

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#1423561
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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Ditto for the claim that Crait was originally at the start of TLJ - that leaves the movie without a functional third act; where would Luke project to?

Eh, TLJ always felt like it had two third acts stacked on top of each other to me. The battles on the Supremacy is the first one. I guess you could have Luke project there. It’s unlikely they’d have changed Crait’s place in the story once principal photography started.

I still believe there is an expanded edition of the film that JJ would have preferred to release. At least 30 mins of content that would have made things more clear. But obviously Disney wanted to make more money, so he had to cut it down.

Abrams doesn’t do long movies though. The final product feels so Abramsy I can’t imagine it not being his cut. At most there might’ve been one scene or a few shots that were executively mandated, like how TFA and TLJ each had a moment included to lead into TLJ and DotF, respectively.

Oh and lol at that fake leak referencing an EU character.

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#1423463
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If you need to B*tch about something... this is the place
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Well after the message I posted above and subsequent departure, at least that’s not there to constantly torment me.

Why is the border an issue though? I’m not expecting to meet people in person regardless at the moment so I’ll take what I can get. You live not too far from iirc, so I’m open to the idea.

Regardless, the sentiment is something can certainly appreciate. Having someone support you like that makes a world of difference.