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As a reference, is Harmy’s Despecialized 2.7 Gout-synced or if not what’s the lag/lead in frames?
I think I remember someone telling me that the latest version of Empire was off by 1 frame.
Dek Rollins said:
And none of Nolan’s films are good comic book movies. Everything about them is realism-driven, which just makes it worse when something unrealistic happens
I’m not sure if I’m agreeing with you or disagreeing with you. I’ve never seen The Dark Knight, but The Dark Knight Rises was as dumb a comic book movie as I’ve ever seen.
You’re probably right. It’s just mind boggling that any version of a movie could be so erased from the public consciousness.
It hasn’t been. Look around at all the great people on this site.
This isn’t about Disney and Fox though. I would suggest to read Poita’s post again.
Get Disney and Fox to sign off on it and voila, we would have our dream scenario.
Thanks for sharing your fanfiction with us, Fang.
I defend good and great movies. Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back are great movies. Return of the Jedi is a good movie. BMH got it right.
Well said BMH. You keep making good posts.
This whole situation reminds me of the Shakespeare example. His works were never published in his lifetime, and decades later, after his death, associates and interested people had to cobble together what they could remember or find in order to recreate the plays.
There were frauds, fakes, things that probably resembled the real deal, and the like. As time passed, history tended to prefer one version over another, and I think that will be the case with these films as well. The commercial exploitation will expire, loyalties will die out, nostalgia and remembrances will be forgotten, and the craftsmanship will be judged on merit alone.
That is to say, the horrible editing mistakes in the SEs will eventually be eliminated, as long as people continue to preserve the original versions of the films in some way, shape, or form.
But why would they do that? The unaltered originals do not seem to even be on their radar and they don’t need them as a selling point
This isn’t true. The OOT is on LFL’s radar. It’s on their radar as something they don’t want to do. The lack of release is not due to omission and it has nothing to do with money. It has to do with the fact the George doesn’t want it done and that’s good enough as far as Kathleen Kennedy is concerned. Did you see the cake that was delivered to the 40th anniversary crew celebration? It was signed: “George & Kathleen”.
Lord Tobias said:
still does not answer my question
How does it not answer your question? In Empire Strikes Back, Vader reveals to Luke that he is his father. He asks Luke to join him so they can overthrow the emperor and rule the galaxy as father and son. It is a temptation.
In Return of the Jedi, the Emperor and Vader goad Luke into using the dark side of the force. They are both dark side guys. They like the dark side. It is another temptation.
Just as Vader thought surely my son is going to join me and sign up to rule the entire galaxy when he tempted Luke in the previous movie, these two dark side guys who love the dark side, would have believed that Luke would fall in love with the dark side once he used it, just like they did, and he would become one of them.
I don’t expect Wonder Woman to be any more historically accurate than 300 was. 😉
I never have seen 300.
It wouldn’t bother me at all if it were just a passing detail not relevant to the story.
But Ares is the bad guy in the movie. The Amazons were his daughters. I think it makes a big difference.
You have to really be a dumbass and pathetic human being to be upset about an all-women’s screening of Wonder Woman. Grow up and grow a pair and be a ****ing man.
Haha yeah just like all those dumb bitches upset about not being able to golf at the hoity-toity country club amirite??? Or those gays all whiny about not getting cake??? They need to man up too!
Stop embarrassing yourself. A person of privilege and a person who experiences constant prejudice are not the same. A straight white man in America complaining about pro-female, pro-minority, pro-LGBT activism is no different than a billionaire complaining about why all the common folk have to clutter up their nice views.
If you don’t have a million dollar yacht, don’t talk to me!
This is exactly what you sound like.
I wonder if in the next comic book we’ll see a flashback of some superhero inventing the Trojan Horse. The one the Greeks used to defeat Troy. Only there are no Greeks, and it didn’t happen at Troy. It happened in Okinawa in 1945 because…you know, the Trojan Horse was a myth anyway, right?
Lol, you do know Wonder Woman is made up, right?
JEDIT: I can’t actually tell if you’re joking. I hope you are.
I’m not talking about Wonder Woman. She can have whatever story she wants. I’m talking about the Amazons. Apparently they were children of Ares, so in the movie the whole backstory is all ****ed up.
Lol, you do know Amazons are made up, right?
Don’t be dumb. Even though they are mythological, the mythology was a historical part of Greek culture.
Lol, you do know Wonder Woman is made up, right?
JEDIT: I can’t actually tell if you’re joking. I hope you are.
I’m not talking about Wonder Woman. She can have whatever story she wants. I’m talking about the Amazons. Apparently they were children of Ares, so in the movie the whole backstory is all ****ed up.
You know I’m passingly familiar with Greek mythology so I know who the Amazons were, but after reading up more on it yesterday it appears the movie completely changed their origins and everything. I’m not sure the writer(s) should have discarded historical accuracy in such a blatant way.
You have to really be a dumbass and pathetic human being to be upset about an all-women’s screening of Wonder Woman. Grow up and grow a pair and be a ****ing man.
Me too, Wook. I had seen the OT countless times before I can even remember as a little kid. But then one day, I grew up. I still cherish my childhood memories but my appreciation of the OOT first and foremost comes down to them being superlative films. Not Star Wars films, but films of exceptional quality and importance to our culture.
If someone is just a STAR WARS! OMG I LOVE STAR WARS! GIVE ME MORE STAR WARS! fan…I can’t say I have much in common with them anymore.
Fang Zei said:
The people at Celebration aren’t really a good sample demographic for gauging people’s interest in the OOT. A lot of them are “Star Wars fans” first and “movie fans” second.In my opinion, the ones clamoring for the OOT on blu-ray are movie fans first and foremost.
Great lines and excellent point!
Dark side personality syndrome: tell me how forcing luke to kill his father is gonna make him palpatines apprentice…
Luke used the dark side of the force to overcome Vader during their last fight. The Emperor’s plan was for Luke to become enamored with the dark side, once he felt its power, as his father had. Luke regained his composure, and stayed good in the end.
double post
I never saw The Dark Knight but Dark Knight Rises was a terrible, terrible piece of trash.
Wonder Woman was in a different league–much better movie.
Her weakness is very explicitly her naivete.
This is not a weakness in the film. It could have been, but it wasn’t. When she goes to the front, she is told she cannot cross No Man’s Land. She doesn’t understand the kind of modern artillery firepower she is up against. She does it anyway and succeeds. She’s told there is a gas that can end civilization and kill millions of people. She has probably never encountered something like that before. She walks right into a cloud of it and lives anyway.
At no point did her naivety cost her anything. It was a nice storyline that I was digging, but it was never a weakness.
Like Superman, her weakness is mental, not physical.
Not sure what else to say here, other than to reiterate that she’s not supposed to be threatened like a normal person is threatened by violence, she’s above that.
So how is her naivete a weakness? At what point does it come back to bite her in the ass? I don’t think it ever did, hence my criticism. She was so naive that she goes up to the front when nobody else would want to go there. She’s so naive that she jumps out of a trench and charges across the battlefield where hundreds if not thousands of rockets, mortars, and agents of chemical warfare are targeted on her, and this costs her how exactly? She’s so naive she believes in rubbish fairtyales that couldn’t possibly be real…or could they?
It’s a good subplot that I enjoyed for the most part, in contrast to the characters and real world around her. But a weakness is a vulnerability, not just a character trait, and I don’t think there was any payoff. There was never a point in the movie where I felt like she was vulnerable or going to fail at anything she tried to do.
Her weakness is very explicitly her naivete.
This is not a weakness in the film. It could have been, but it wasn’t. When she goes to the front, she is told she cannot cross No Man’s Land. She doesn’t understand the kind of modern artillery firepower she is up against. She does it anyway and succeeds. She’s told there is a gas that can end civilization and kill millions of people. She has probably never encountered something like that before. She walks right into a cloud of it and lives anyway.
At no point did her naivety cost her anything. It was a nice storyline that I was digging, but it was never a weakness.
Wonder Woman: I almost universally hate superhero movies, but this one mostly transcends the genre. Fails at times by indulging in nonsensical hero vs. bad guy buffoonery, but overall it was a good, not great movie. Gal Gadot was awesome. The movie was funny and the slow scenes were never slow. Often it was the slow motion shots in the action scenes that caused the pace to break down.
I can quibble with things like the unnecessary framing scenes, two different voice-over narrations in the first 10 minutes, the ending, stuff like that…and maybe I can fix those in a fanedit one day, who knows. But I think the biggest negative with this movie was that the hero didn’t have a weakness. She tried and succeeded at everything she ever wanted to do from beginning to end, and nobody ever stopped her. She was a lot like Rey.