Alderaan

Listen Fang, here’s the deal. I’m going to tell you like it is, ok? George Lucas doesn’t like the original original trilogy. They weren’t his movies, never were, not the ones he wanted to make anyway. The Star Wars that he wanted to make…everyone told him it sucked. He had to get help with the script. The studio told him the movie had to be like this, it had to be like that. He said fine, since it wasn’t going to get made any other way. He lived with it. He made a lot of money, and that was that.

When he got the chance later on, he made the SEs. Some fixes were practical, others were him ****ing up the movies in the ways he wanted to **** them up 40 years ago, but more sensible people told him no. Now he is a billionaire and nobody tells him no anymore. He made the movies that he likes, and resents the fact that you and I like the originals that he does not like, and he only very begrudgingly gave them to us in faded, washed out, DNRd, non-anamorphic generation-old LD transfers because who the fuck would want to watch them anyways? Certainly not George Lucas.

Now George is no longer around. Kathleen Kennedy is. That’s George’s woman at LFL and Disney. She’s not going to touch those movies. She probably doesn’t care, and even if she did, she’s not going to piss off George. There is zero chance, none, never, that she will release the OOT. The only people who have the power to make it happen are her bosses at Disney. Any day…today, tomorrow…they can call her up on the phone, walk into her office, and say hey Kathleen, we’re greenlighting a new project. We want to give the fans the OOT. She would either comply or resign, but one way or another we would finally get what we want.

You know why that’s unlikely to happen? Because Disney is making a lot of money on the crap they are selling right now. It’s garbage. It’s junk. But like vulture, I mean venture capitalists, they bought the Star Wars carcass and they are going to chop it up and sell it in a million different slices and styles. They aren’t going to give you new movies. They aren’t going to give you new ideas. They aren’t going to sell you anything you haven’t seen before. They are going to give you rehash after rehash after spinoff, until they have made as much money as possible and until there is no longer any meat left on that damn bone.

You know what is the one thing that could upset that apple cart? Pissing off George Lucas. Getting into a war with him and his sycophants. Disney doesn’t want no bad press. They don’t want all those George Lucas fans who spend 12 hours a day on TFN cutting back on their SW purchases. They don’t want you guys only going to see Lost Jedi 4 times instead of 12. They don’t want you not buying the next Saga issue with deleted scenes you’ve probably already seen before, just because maybe there is some bad blood in the water.

As long as people keep watching and buying their brain-dead ripoffs, there will be no OOT.

Not blaming you. It was more of a general “you”.

They aren’t going to do anything. Disney is going to keep making **** movies, you’re going to keep paying to see them and then buy them on Bluray, you’re going to accidentally catch the SEs on TV when you’re flipping the channels some holiday weekend, and when 2020 comes around and you still don’t have the OOT, you’re going to shrug and tell everyone IT JUST HAS TO BE coming out for the 50th anniversary.

TV’s Frink said:

Alderaan said:

Fang Zei said:

Mocata said:

If they are not doing anything right now, I don’t see how 2020 is a realistic date.

It’s simple, they don’t want to do anything other than reissuing the 2011 discs until the rights are back in their hands (with the previously noted exception of ANH, which will never be back in their hands anyway).

This is all nonsense. Releasing a new set has nothing to do with distribution rights. If that were the case, Disney would pull all copies off the shelves and just wait until 2020 to sell anything. They wouldn’t be selling the Blurays AT ALL.

Just like what happened with VHS, DVD, and Bluray, they will wait until the next technology becomes widely adopted by consumers, and then they will issue a new set with an updated master. For obvious reasons, that will most likely be after the ST is completed, so they can issue a 4k set of all the movies.

When they do issue the 4K set…3 years from now, 5 years from now, etc…it will be the SE version if it is left up to Kennedy and LFL, which it likely will be. The only way to get an official OOT release is for their bosses at Disney to order them to make it happen. The only way their bosses at Disney would ever do that is if you, the fans, call it to their attention and force them to do so. Most likely with your wallet.

Ah, so I see you’ve given up your “it will never ever ever ever ever happen no matter what ever” stance despite no new news. Interesting.

I’ve been very consistent on this topic. In the absence of the fans convincing Kennedy’s bosses to order her to release the OOT or ask for her resignation, there is zero chance you will get anything other than the SE from Disney. No OOT. Not going to happen. Ever.

If you want an official release, stop giving them your money.

Fang Zei said:

I didn’t say the rights issue was preventing a new release. I said they are intentionally keeping what’s coming next in their back pocket for after May of 2020 so they don’t have to share any of the profits with Fox.

Again, this doesn’t make any sense though and doesn’t hold up to the bare minimum of scrutiny. If they didn’t want to share money with Fox, they wouldn’t be selling the Blurays right now, at all. The distribution rights aren’t faintly related to the lack of OOT release in way at all.

Agreed.

bkev said:

On top of the no image-only posts rule, we ought to consider a no one-word only post rule. It’s similar in lack of content and general snarky attitude.

Seconded.

Fang Zei said:

Mocata said:

If they are not doing anything right now, I don’t see how 2020 is a realistic date.

It’s simple, they don’t want to do anything other than reissuing the 2011 discs until the rights are back in their hands (with the previously noted exception of ANH, which will never be back in their hands anyway).

This is all nonsense. Releasing a new set has nothing to do with distribution rights. If that were the case, Disney would pull all copies off the shelves and just wait until 2020 to sell anything. They wouldn’t be selling the Blurays AT ALL.

Just like what happened with VHS, DVD, and Bluray, they will wait until the next technology becomes widely adopted by consumers, and then they will issue a new set with an updated master. For obvious reasons, that will most likely be after the ST is completed, so they can issue a 4k set of all the movies.

When they do issue the 4K set…3 years from now, 5 years from now, etc…it will be the SE version if it is left up to Kennedy and LFL, which it likely will be. The only way to get an official OOT release is for their bosses at Disney to order them to make it happen. The only way their bosses at Disney would ever do that is if you, the fans, call it to their attention and force them to do so. Most likely with your wallet.

Nobody called it A New Hope until the 2000s. The episode title was on the crawl and some packaging post-1981 but as far as I’m aware, every television broadcast and every single person out of hundreds of millions who referred to it in popular culture always called it Star Wars.

Did I hurt your feelings Dom? Don’t worry, I’m sure your self-esteem will pick up the next time you join in with Fink, DE, and Co. as you pick on someone else and then go off in the corner and snicker and point fingers some more.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/basics/bullying

I used to be a fan of Firefox, but it’s buggy as hell now. Firefox and Adobe Flash have really gone down hill.

double post

These two posts are perfect illustrations:

DominicCobb said:

It’s times like this I am glad I don’t have the displeasure of knowing Alderaan in real life. To all who do: I’m sorry.

Who are you talking to? Do you think anyone who knows me reads this board? Probably not. Do you think I’m concerned with the opinion of someone who acts like an adolescent girl? Probably not. So you are just looking for a pat on the back from the clique. I mean, congrats I guess, you’ll probably get it. Standard operating procedure for a few of you no doubt. The only reason I’m even bothering to quote your post and comment is because it leads into this one:

DuracellEnergizer said:

http://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1081392

It’s hard to believe this is genuine hysteria rather than the trolling of a Poe.

I don’t think Frevious is a good poster, on the occasions I have come across him. At the very least, he has made several outlandish posts that deserve to be rebuked, most memorably one about slavery or whatever the hell he was talking about that one time in General. That said, if you, or I, or anyone else has a problem with his posting, then bring it up in the relevant thread. Call him out right then and there, debate, critique, whatever.

As Jay said, the guy made his own containment thread where he can post all the crap he wants (within reason), and if you don’t like it then just don’t read and ignore. Anyone with half a brain can come to the conclusion so-and-so is a terrible poster, therefore if they start a thread about some ridiculous topic, I’m not going to waste my time reading anything in there. Simple, right?

No…you want to go in there and mock him. You want to mock this person. And that person. Even worse, most of you don’t have the balls to mock anyone on your own. When one person gets into an argument with the poster you dislike, you suddenly find courage and scurry out of your holes like rodents or flies, eager to tack on.

And then even that’s not enough. There are threads like these, where you giggle and point fingers and snicker some more. I don’t know the ages of all of you, but I think I remember seeing Fink is a man in his 40s, and Duracell is in his late 20’s (if I’m wrong, sorry…just going off memory). Those are just two examples, but it should go without saying that grown men and women should be embarrassed of themselves to act this way. You think frevious and all his ****-posting makes him inferior to you? Try looking out how you behave.

Saudi Arabia, U.A.E., Bahrain, and Egypt have cut all ties with Qatar:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-40155829

This is the most consequential geopolitical development this year. All are U.S. allies; both Saudi Arabia and Qatar are known to have funded and supported Islamic State and other terrorist organizations in the Middle East. They have even been fighting as allies in a war in Yemen, and yet Saudi Arabia has cited concerns over terrorist funding as the reason they are cutting ties with Qatar.

It is highly unlikely that these four states would be turning on Qatar without approval from the Trump administration.

This thread is an embarrassment to all of the people who use it for its intended purpose. Unless you’re a high school girl, then carry on I guess.

Not surprising to see 7 years worth of Fink gossiping about people he doesn’t like. You’re older than me and I shouldn’t have to tell you to grow up and be a ****ing man all the time.

All he ever did was complain about people and make inane comments anyway.

The guy is an angry man. Maybe he took a bunch of valium and just started coming to.

Mark Hamill not a fan of the Disney Star Wars movies. Doesn’t like the direction they are going in at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw0IR6fJlV0

CartoonWarp said:

I want to see a spin-off movie about something never explored in Star Wars before. No old planets, no old characters.

Just new stuff.

Disney is going to sell you rehash after rehash after spinoff. If you’re expecting anything else you are going to be disappointed.

Translation:

I want Disney to make more money! I love Star Wars! The new Star Wars movies are perfect! Everyone NEEDS to see these new movies at least 9 or 10 times. TRUST ME. They are that good! Thank you Disney and thank you Star Wars!

rodneyfaile said:

You might be able to edit all three prequels down into one decent movie.

They were edited down to three movies: Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi, where everything you need to know about them was exposition, and took place in the distant past, far off screen.

rodneyfaile said:

You can’t fix what’s wrong with The Force Awakens because there’s nothing wrong with it.

Someone made a perfect movie?!?!

I’m not sure why you singled out Fox. Yes, they are terrible, but they aren’t the only network whose brand is polarized, often misleading political party propaganda. CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, they are all guilty of the same garbage.

For the record, there are a lot of nice Christian people. Liberals too.

Not all of them are Bible-belt frauds.

Warbler said:

He is also bigoted against Christians(and any other religion for that matter).

I think that’s why Darthrush said he liked him. Apparently it’s not cool to be prejudice against black people, or hispanic people, or gay people, or Muslims (indeed it isn’t), but **** all those Christians we don’t want their kind around here.

It’s free to protest outside the building. Much more expensive to hire a plane and fly a banner over the event, but one wouldn’t have to be physically present.

SilverWook said:

These idiots need reminding what it’s like in countries without a free press, or be encouraged to move to one. 😉

They don’t want a free press. They want Breibart state propaganda. They gave the game away when they claim the constitution gives them the right to own a gun, but then they want to ban people of a certain religion from entering the country.