Alderaan

DuracellEnergizer said:

That’s what lightsaber seppuku’s for.

This place could use some housecleaning.

We need our color correction experts to chime in, but definitely much better!

Not rouge enough.

DominicCobb said:

Yeah but what I mean is that SW is fantasy so I truly do not care if that’s the case in the real world.

Fantasy is a generic and vague word. The fantasy world of the OT had a very different feel than the fantasy world of the PT. And the Disney movies have a very different feel than both of them.

Part of what I like about the OT films is that, despite the space chases and lightsaber battles, the made-up creatures and worlds, the films still have a realness about them. They are films that take themselves seriously as films, without taking themselves too seriously. Some scenes in Return of the Jedi not-withstanding. If the Star Wars universe were a real non-fictional place, you could see the things happening there actually happening just like they do on-screen. The acting is convincing enough. The casting was convincing enough. The research that was done by the writers, the producers, the directors, the costume and set design people, was extensive. I keep coming back to the comparison between the trash compactor scene and the rathtar scene. In one, you have a real person drowning in a sewer on a real set, and the actor surfaces gasping for air, covered in garbage, just as he would if something like that had actually happened to him in real life. In the rathtar scene, you have fake CGI stuff going on, people getting their heads banged into hard metal walls at high velocity, and then getting up like nothing happened to them. There is the space battle at the end of the TFA where the rebel pilots just fly in and go pew-pew yipee-kaye we did it! Without much effort. And the scenes at the end of R1 where the camera lingers on bit players overacting. Contrast those to the land and space battle scenes in the OT where they actually feel like “real” military battles, albeit with really cool futuristic special effects. Star Wars as I always knew it was just completely different than this made-up Marvel comic-book universe crap that modern movies have become.

But why do that when they could dial 10-10-321 first and only pay 10 cents a minute?

How can communication not be instantaneous, but you can see other planets on other sides of the galaxy get blown up in real time with your own eyes when you look up at the sky?

Lord Haseo said:

I don’t really see anyone pleading for their “ideas” to be canon.

You must have missed the first sentence in my post. I stated that the idea of “canon” at all is stupid in the first place. There is no need to make a distinction between personal canon, or franchise canon, or any canon. One is free to interpret a story however he or she sees fit.

Self-explanatory things are self-explanatory.

The idea of canon is dumb af. This isn’t a religion.

For me: Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi are the only things that matter. Not something in a book or that was in an earlier draft, or anything that didn’t appear in the movies. Just those three films themselves as they are (or were).

But if someone else likes something else, I could care less. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and I’m not so insecure that I need my ideas to be recognized as “official” in order to feel better about myself or my tastes. Not everyone can be as cool as me, and I recognize that, and I know that time will forget about all the rest of the garbage and only judge the three original films worthy of praise anyway.

TV’s Frink said:

Sougouk said:

Thanks MalaStrana, for the info.

Mala gave Rogue One a rating of zero out of ten, so independent of her rating of Rebels, I’d just keep that in mind.

I hope the moderators put an end to this kind of petty, vindictive, and childish posting.

Sougouk said:
Your first introduction of Yoda, is that of a Jedi Hermit, whose been cooped up on Degobah for 20+ years. He looks dishevelled, crazy, and a little kooky.

Strange, I never thought these things. His kookiness was all an act, you know.

Sougouk said:
CGI Yoda works for the PT, because…

No, no it doesn’t. CGI Yoda didn’t work at all. And the prequels didn’t work at all for that matter.

Return of the Jedi was my favorite when I was a little kid. Star Wars was the “boring” one, Empire Strikes Back was the “scary” one, and Jedi was the one I watched over and over again.

When I became a teenager and young man, I found that Empire became my favorite. Maybe because it was “darker” or seemed more real. Jedi slipped to #2–I still loved it, and it didn’t drop because it fell out of favor; but rather, I found myself just liking Empire Strikes Back more and more. Star Wars was still the boring one, but it got better with age and time.

As a grown adult, I look at these films from a dramatic and craftsmanship point of view. Empire Strikes Back is still the best and continues to grow in esteem as time passes, both for the enhanced depth and complexity of the characters and emotions involved, as well as the sheer excellence in execution of all filmmaking crafts. The script, the camerawork, the direction, the acting, the score, the set and costume designs, the casting, and on and on, the people involved in making Empire got every last creative ounce out of each and every scene. And then they stood back and asked, “how can we make this even better?” It is the little things mis-en-scene in Empire that make it, as Roger Ebert once said, a near perfect movie of its kind, and one of the most visionary and inventive films of all time.

Return of the Jedi also has a very strong and compelling narrative to tell, and in parts, that story is executed and brought to screen with nearly as much skill. There is nothing more fun in any Star Wars film than the fight on Jabba’s sail barge. The technical effects created in Jabba’s puppetry and the speeder bike chases on Endor and the space battle around Death Star 2 are still a sight to behold. The film’s camerawork is brilliant throughout.

And of course, the scenes between Luke and Vader and the Emperor are among the most emotionally compelling in the entire trilogy.

But unfortunately, Jedi has slipped to a distant #3 in my rankings, because it shows its prequel-era Lucas character at times. As good as the production values are in some aspects (which I mentioned) there are other scenes and sequences where Lucasfilm clearly cheaped out. There are of course the Ewoks, which at times range from endearing to bearable, but at other times turn the movie into an eye-rolling farce. And of course, the acting from the supporting case is probably the worst of all three films.

If I could sum up Jedi’s biggest flaw in one phrase, I would say it possesses at times a clear lack of restraint. And yet, even when Jedi is at its weakest, its heart and execution are still demonstrably better than anything offered in any of the five other films.

She gave him a pretty good look when they were on Endor right before the dumb Ewok took off on the speeder bike.

Yeah, I’d say it’s true.

Snoke 'em if you got 'em

suspiciouscoffee said:

MalàStrana said:

The Clones do attack some people AND there is a veiled phantomatic menace. The Sith take their revenge, a rogue one rises up and allows for a new hope which leads to a retaliation and finally to a return, until something awakens. SW titles are good.

FTFY

Rebel freedom fighters defeated the evil Galactic Empire in some STAR WARS.
The Empire struck back.
A Jedi returned and saved the galaxy.

THE END

Star Wars Episode VIII: Mary Sue and Jedi Too!

(man, this is fun)

wren597 said:

I just can’t wait until Episode IX The Force Passed Out Drunk Again

Star Wars Episode IX: Return of the Jedi (Temple)

I know, wrong thread.

Booman said:

I’m kinda glad that they didn’t emphasize all of the small details like this in the movie. It makes it seem more realistic, at least in my opinion. These sort of things should be stuff that you notice in the background, not something that’s thrown in your face. If you think about it, they pretty much did the same thing in the OT.

Yes, that was my point. You can notice it in the background while other more important stuff is going on in the foreground. However, when the direction and editing are so terrible, you don’t even have a chance to notice these things in the background. You don’t get the chance to notice them at all.

ZkinandBonez said:

A HI-RES LOOK AT THE USER INTERFACES OF ‘ROGUE ONE: A STAR WARS STORY’

Some of these are really awesome.

(I’m glad they’ve stuck with the retro designs and not tried to modernize it like other franchises has tried to do.)

See this stuff looks good. I will always give credit where credit is due.

The problem is that I don’t remember any of this in the movie. Maybe it was in there, maybe it wasn’t. Either way, the camera and editing never slowed down long enough to pay attention to these kinds of things.

Circumvent what facts? Your replies have all been nonsense so far and a few different people have kindly pointed out that you are making a fool of yourself. Your best response would probably be to sit back and listen instead of throwing a tantrum.

Lord Haseo said:
Your ability top circumvent reality via mental gymnastics is fucking impeccable. They’re not going to release the OUT incomplete so you’re dead wrong.

Hey Hasbro, this is what I was talking about when I commented on lack of civility a minute ago.

Fox is most definitely not the reason the OOT hasn’t been released. DUCY?

It’s just funny to watch that woman lie into the camera over and over again.

Yeah everyone already knows that. Are you guys trying to suggest that Fox is the reason the OOT hasn’t been released? Because boy, that’s a good one…

doubleofive said:

Look over there!

It’s a featurette on casting Anakin.

I have no idea why I wasted my time watching this, but when Lucas was talking to all 3 actors at the table, JL was seated in the middle and he was the only kid George looked at when he spoke.

The other two child actors were even worse than JL. The only conclusion I can draw is that the 3,000 kids thing is a pathological lie, especially given the things Lucas said in other interviews.

TV’s Frink said:
Fine. We’re both to blame, but unlike you, I’m going to be an adult about this going forward. I’ll just ignore every worthless thing you post.

If you could be civil then everything would go a lot better. There’s no reason why we can’t all agree or disagree on topics without being miserable sob’s towards each other.

To the extent I’ve ever behaved that way towards another poster, I apologize.

I do take issue with the need by a few of you to play hall monitor and police every thread in vain attempts to squelch all negative comments towards Disney and their mediocre-to-terrible films. Especially considering their behavior regarding the most important Star Wars issue of all. To put things in perspective, it was 6 years between the time George released the GOUT and the time he sold all rights to Disney. It has now been 5 years since Disney took over, and still no OOT.

Considering their films are barely better than the prequels, which is not saying much, this lack of action should be considered an outrage.