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Adamwankenobi

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#172103
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What you're reading now: EU style
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Originally posted by: battlewars
adam have you read all the eu? what do you think of splinter of minds eye, or the zahn trilogy, or truce at bakura etc anything pre shadows of the empire


HA! No, unfortunately, I haven't read all of the EU. It's massive! Surprisingly, I don't really care too much for a lot of the PT-era stories. (Though some of the Clone Wars books were pretty good.) Most of what I like in the EU are the OT/post-ROTJ era stories. Most of those early SW novels (like the ones you mentioned) really seem to carry the SW feeling better than any that have come since.
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#172017
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rotj sucks now because of the PT?
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Originally posted by: battlewars
the pod race is okay if you like nascar, which i find boring. wish it had been more like a stree race rather than laps

I can't stand NASCAR. I agree, those NASCAR races are boring as hell. But I like the pod race OK.

Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape

And I do agree that the Jabba stuff went on a little bit too long, but it does fit into the plot, it does show off Luke's skill and leadership abilities, and Leia... well, I needn't say anymore, do I?


Indeed.
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#172010
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rotj sucks now because of the PT?
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Well, as it is, the pod race is OK. It doesn't seem to detract from anything. After all, the purpose is to show Anakin's skill as a pilot. And that, I think it achieved. Yeah, it can get repetitive and boring at times, but at least it does have a purpose.

It's the same with the ROTJ Jabba scenes. Even though they can be boring at times, they are OK because they have a point. Well, two points really. They show the capture of Han, and establish the fact that Luke is now a full fledged Jedi Knight and it establishes this by showing some of his skills.
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#172004
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rotj sucks now because of the PT?
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Originally posted by: battlewars
Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi

Yes. And I've seen ROTJ recently too. The problem with Jedi, IMHO, is the Jabba's palace scenes. I've always felt that they go on WAY too long.
i always thought it was long simply because han was such an interegal character and the cliffhanger to empire was based on what happened to him. so it just seems natural they would take that long to get him out in jedi since people had waited 3 years to see what happened to him


True. And the rescue of Han certainly was important, given the events of ESB. But I think the rescue of Han could have been established with less screentime. In the context of the entire saga, that part really doesn't seem AS important as, say, the confrontation of Luke, Vader, and Palpatine. I think that more time should have been spent with the Alliance or on the Death Star than at Jabba's palace.

The entire situation reminds me of the deal with TPM, where they had designed what was basically a 30 minute pod race and, after seeing it in the context of the rest of the film, it seemed like it's own mini movie and was too long and didn't fit. That is how I feel about the ROTJ Jabba scenes as well.
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#171994
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rotj sucks now because of the PT?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/171994/action/topic#171994
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Originally posted by: battlewars
Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi
IMHO, ROTJ is on the level of TPM and AOTC, while ROTS is on the level of ANH and ESB.

So, there are three excellent films (ROTS, ANH, ESB), and three OK films (TPM, AOTC, and ROTJ).
have you seen rots lately? i got through the first 3 minutes but by the time i got to the buzz droids i quickly lost interest


Yes. And I've seen ROTJ recently too. The problem with Jedi, IMHO, is the Jabba's palace scenes. I've always felt that they go on WAY too long.
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#171993
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What you're reading now: EU style
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/171993/action/topic#171993
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Originally posted by: battlewars
the last star wars book i read was the one where chewbacca died. thought it was good better than any stupid prequel movie

Vector Prime. Yeah, there was a lot of controversy over the decision to kill Chewbacca. Some guys were going to the point of even sending death threats to R.A. Salvatore over that. But Lucas himself was asked permission to kill Chewbacca in the novel, and he approved of it, so...

Originally posted by: Mr Bungle
Ive have been tempted by the EU once or twice, but never bothered, the only Star Wars novel i have ever read is Splinter of the Minds Eye all those years ago, and the only Star Wars book i own is The Star Wars Poster Book.

What do you mean by tempted? What's there to be afraid of?

Originally posted by: Klingon_Jedi
I'm currently reading the Gundam novels. When I'm done there, I'll probably try that new Vader novel unless Outbound Flight is out. Then I'll read that.


Outbound Flight comes out January 30, in case you didn't know.

Originally posted by: Nanner Split
I remember reading, back when I was about five or six, a six-book series by Paul and Hollace Davids, the first of which was The Glove of Darth Vader, and the last was Prophets of the Dark Side. I don't remember a damn thing about them, but I remember enjoying them when I was little.


Glad you enjoyed it, because The Glove of Darth Vader is considered by a lot of people to be one of those bad apples of the EU.
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#171890
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What you're reading now: EU style
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/171890/action/topic#171890
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One thing I will never understand is some people's hatred towards the EU. The majority of EU works are clearly designed by enthusiastic Star Wars fans with the intent to provide good, entertaining, many times thought provoking stories. And, unlike Lucas, those in charge of the EU pay extreme attention to continuity to the point where there are very few continuity errors. And those errors that do exist typpically exist simply because Lucas changes his films and alters the story. There are only a few cases where I can see someone holding a grudge against the EU, like the Dark Empire series or...(I'm struggling to say it) The Star Wars Holiday Special. But the majority of EU attempts to actually add something to the story, unlike detract from it like Lucas has from time to time. Yes, some EU stories are bad apples like the ones I mentioned, but they are not really representative of the EU as a whole. The intent at Lucas Liscensing is to provide quality entertainment to its readers, not destroy their enjoyment of the saga.

And I always hate seeing these canon debates start up on TF.N and places. What I find hilarious is that the majority of the bashers say stuff like "Well, of course the Clone Wars cartoon is canon. But the books are not. The books suck. But the video games are fun." It makes me wonder if these same people have actually read a Star Wars novel, or if they just don't want to in fear that they might enjoy themselves.

Troy Denning (a common EU author) has said that he sees each author's stories as simply their version of a fairy tale, with Lucas' version being simply his own interpretation; as a whole, Lucas', along with their works would function as a complete story, but from different points of view.