ABC

Burdokva said:

Overall, I think the 2010 sounds just slightly better - more "relaxed", not so noisy and bombastic. There's more depth to the sound, which makes it more clear, even if some sections are slightly fainter than the previous. 2009 has louder overall feel, as if all of the instruments are up front.

Thanks for taking time to give feedback (and to listen) Burdokva. I'm glad you caught what has been intented from v.2 to v.3 !

The livelier tracks sound great, but it's a bit too much for me.

The selection of the tracks has its importance on such a set. Well it' s a heavy score and a bonus track section is hard to endure after the "storytelling" of the entire film.

The C. Gerhardt recordings of "The Asteroid Field" and "Han & Leia" are two concert versions arrangement that we usually don't know about and that we even don't know if they've been performed by the London Symphony in that shape.

Unfortunately I share your appreciation so much that it was enough someone told me that for I remove the 3 C.G. tracks. Let's focus on the London Symphony ;)

... Then, tracks OUT ! :)

I still like them both. There's seem to be new version, however.. maybe I should wait until the actual final, definitive one? :p

 I highly recommend that. What you noticed (the fainter sections on v.3) won't be a problem anymore I think.

Not safe for work mmmhhh ?...

... Speaking about measure of celebrity, there should be a "Frink's Throne" level. The ultimate step before the light of god !

TV's Frink said:

Water Mat Ow?  Off-topic...

PROBATION!!!

...but brilliant!

FULL PARDON!!!

 That's really speaking for nothing !!!... You like to kick and kiss, don't you !?

Would you make some higher categories next to your punishment list to encourage our creativity, kinds of higher levels for we may hope to reach the light ?... I know I know... Go ahead, make my day.

Also "full pardon" is a little too much to get used to when one were in the "Lungs Of Hell" just five minutes ago (Hey! you should note that one too...).

Anyway, Bingo deserves a Hall of Fame.

... And Ric a Hall of Fun.

Those French are very good ! ;)

... And indeed there's a lot of old asian animation film releases in France since about six years or more. Old forgotten jewels pop out !

MWWWHHHAAAHAAAHAAAAHHHAAAAAAAAAA(ALLOFSHAME) !!!!!!

... Ah. I thought the Anthology track was better, the "OT st salvage" mix still better, and the RSO track even better (though a little too dry).

... Obviously (tyran !). Can someone steal the idea, please ?

I wanted to propose that since a while...

This thread is now about your preferate CARTOONS / ANIMATED SERIES

... There was so much !

Here's DANGER MOUSE (also called DARE DARE MOTUS around here)

none said:

Of course there is, don't be silly.  Welcome back.

 BH, as I can see none is interest !... hehe... errrr....

Bingowings, we could have read "YODA" on Lucas' suit !

msycamore said:

You have convinced me with the Jedi Master Revealed, its sounds pretty good;) 

... Thanks to the layer wich achieved it. :) 

by the way, City In The Clouds v.3 are sounding damn good!! Thank you again for your hard work.

 I'm glad. "City In The Clouds" v4 sounds as powerful, and is a bit clearer, and is completed with the layers. Anyway, v.4 blows my previous work, what I didn't dare saying when I released v.3 if you remember. ;)

And guess what is the last track I'm currently re-editing ?... The very very first one I made and posted here !!! Lol

msycamore said:

... can you please explain why you think it's a wrong ad, (maybe you have already) I know you have worked hard on this one and that you are finished with it, I just want to know your reason behind it.

 ABC said:

I won't change my mind about the "Jedi Master Revealed" link with "Mynock Cave" as I edited them. However we can see that from the fanfare I removed to the end of "Mynock Cave" it is one entire cue. Then it is now obvious I'll have to place the entire cue in the bonus tracks. That's ok, you'll be able to appreciate both the new edit with the RSO track wich sounds powerful and the whole SE track wich sounds not bad at all.

The first reason is the sound, indeed I tried to get rid of the harshness of the cue before and each time I tried to low that, the sound was dying (refer to the OE). The only way I found to improve this track was to make it shine (the "Salvage" version). Now I've done another mix for the bonus track of it and as it was better I wondered if it may be edited with the RSO version... After listening both my answer is: no way.

- The real problem with the SE version is that the high frequencies are too short, so lifted with abuse. That's how I see the matter. There are a bunch of good things in the SE, but they are always spoiled being to short and so, virtually extended.  For comparison the "Aboard The Executor" track is incredibly superior to the whole set, you don't have idea. It has quite the same potential than "The Battle in the Snow" from the RSO wich is the best on it considering the thousand ways you can make it sound. I really calmed them down on the OE so rich they were. -

The second and third reasons are that the first rush in "Mynock Cave" breaks the flow (it breaks the surprise of the second rush, what always bothered me), and to finish what I said in my notes: "Jedi Master Revealed" has been obviously composed to match the beginning of "Mynock Cave". Surely a safety from J. Williams who put in reserve a lot of his music on this score to allow re-cuts. This was particularly obvious to me when I worked on the film version edit.

To have it complete in the bonus tracks is the best alternative and believe me, this cue being placed between "Snowspeeders Alt" and "Departure Alt" both re-edited and re-layered with the RSO, doesn't make a so proud figure...

yotsuya said:

I'm really tired of 20 versions of the same tracks with updating versions (this goes for SW as well as Blade runner) making it a nightmare, wondering which version is best/most complete/most accurate.

 A bit off-topic here but not off-forum, if it's about the "prequels" for the SW scores, the only way is to check every bootleg, puting all the same tracks together on Foobar or whatever, and compare them. There's no best one and are all unequal. compil them and remix them in your way... Is the only way. Is it really worth ? For you to see.

But for the OT it's not too hard. Nobody worked on it excepted GoodMusician... And another one.

Unfortunatel Leonardo, what you have posted is a fake ! (Yes)

Come on, where are the girls ?!!!

msycamore,

To end that confusion once for all, I just noticed the Anthology album (CD2) End Title has not the tracked Imperial March bit, but is made of the Alt March beginning of the original album + the film version Alt March...

Crazy !

Interesting. I remember having taken all I could from the Anthology for this score. Possible the SE version of this track sounds better. To be honest I really don't know.

Haha !... You did that ? Nice melting.

The audio compression for Youtube spoils it all, but the "superstructure chase" bit looks very clean compared to the releases. A bit captured from the film I guess ?

... However I don't know if you rode the first post well enough but I don't mean to make the same monstruous work for ROTJ than what I did on ESB. It just doesn't worth it (considering many things).

... Didn't I said before it looked like a Coruscant poster ?

Then probation rejected your honour !

SAMPLES

These ones are from the OT ST "Salvage" version of RotJ and I consider this is what it really should sound like, excepted for the two last minutes of "Scout Walker Scrambles" wich shows another mixing I haven't managed. Unfortunately they're overpeacked so they can't be used for a future edit.

Anyone interested ?

Into The Trap 

My input was about George Lucas (educational fondation). Then what ?

You're surrounded by two towers: checkmate !

Oh my, Ric !... I didn't think I was so close.

C3PX said:

Not all of us are that way, but the reason many of us feel the NSFW (Not Safe For Work) are important is because so many here browse this site on their computers while at work...

Aaaaaaaaahhhhhhh........ Hoooooooohhh... That's why ! I didn't understand at all what "Not Safe For Work" meant. OK. Thanks for taking time to explain.

Btw, the first picture (women fight) was really coarse compared to what the deal was about here. Anyway...

You know what C3PX ?

This guy is Joseph Campbell...

Then you're on PROBATION !!!

Edit: ah, hem... Sorry Frink !

Ric Olie said:

ABC can still see me...

Haha! Come on Ric, this is a beautiful sterilized world in perspective you show us... Not so laughable besides. Looks like a Coruscant advert !

If this is the world you want, it may be the one you'll have.

... Someone told me: if you want to go in the USA with a camembert (French cheese), you'll never pass the custom office. I really believe now he was right.

Ah. As you seem to be attentive to each detail, you may notice the last RSO part is a little faster than the SE. I should have managed it but I didn't figure out what was the problem right away. Anyway it is fine and CD1 is finished since many weeks... I sweared I won't touch to anything again. The Mynock Cave was perhaps the most difficult edit of all.

If you include the Fox Fanfare may I suggest the Anthology one...

Obviously :) Perhaps will I take directly my "OT salvage" mix.