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Did anyone else spot Morai right before Ahsoka and Din met? You can also hear it calling in the background several times throughout the episode, including the first scene.

There’s also another Lothcat in this episode. I doubt it has an larger meaning than just being a little nod to Rebels, but it’s interesting that we’ve seen two of them so far in the series.


It’s also interesting how they’ve retconned beskar to be similar to Cortosis from Legends in that it’s lightsaber-proof. It makes a lot of sense as much of Mandalorian culture, especially their weaponry and armor was designed to combat the Jedi of the old Republic, but I think this is the first time we’ve seen beskar straight up block a lightsaber.

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So if Din Djarin dies horribly we get 850 years of dark side Grogu? No way anything close to that happens, but I’d be down if it did.

Bring on that Ahsoka poster for Mando Monday!

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Oh no, not about the episode!! About the removal of jeans guy, of course. It’s a mistake/goof, and it’s out there, no need for revisionism… yet we all saw it coming, because that’s Disney for ya

The episode was amazing. Even as someone who doesn’t really care all that much about Clone Wars/Rebels, seeing Ahsoka was 100% worth the hype, and in general this show is gorgeous, loved the old samurai movie influence. I was also breathless when she mentioned Thrawn. I know we’ve had new books with him, and Rebels, but hearing his name in live action star wars, post-ROTJ, right around the time Heir to the Empire takes place… it just hits different. I hope we get to see him

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KumoNin said:

Oh no, not about the episode!! About the removal of jeans guy, of course. It’s a mistake/goof, and it’s out there, no need for revisionism… yet we all saw it coming, because that’s Disney for ya

I don’t see why some people have a problem with it. It’s a guy on set with jeans and a T-shirt, right in the middle of this Star Wars show. It’s incredibly distracting once you notice it, so it makes sense why they would remove it. It’s just that this fanbase is much more purist than any other one. If this change was made in any other franchise, no one would have a problem with it.

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jedi_bendu said:

My weekly Mandalorian reviews are going to get shorter and shorter every week because this show is leaving me more and more speechless.

Words

There are none

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Finally got around to seeing the full episode. Overall I liked it. Rosario did a great job as Ahsoka, and Filoni seems to be getting better at directing live-action, tho I did notice a few weird editing moments, and also the yellow tint on this planet was weird. Maybe yellow lighting somehow works better for live-action Ahsoka? Idk. Also I think it’s weird that now they’re saying Baby Yoda (Grogu) was on coruscant during the clone wars and we never saw him. I’m kinda getting tired of starwars doing retcons like that, but oh well. It’ll be interesting to see where this all goes.

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ZkinandBonez said:

Did anyone else spot Morai right before Ahsoka and Din met? You can also hear it calling in the background several times throughout the episode, including the first scene.

Proud to say I noticed and nearly fell off the sofa trying to get a better look!

I will actually do a review. I pictured Corvus as a lot more lush and Endor-like to compliment Ahsoka’s skin colour, but having a burnt-out forest suits the story purposes a lot better and the cinematography was stunning. Already mentioned, but I loved the references to Yojimbo. I was also very impressed that Dave felt he could take the episode very slowly and build it up. The duel scene, cross-cut with Mando and Michael Biehn’s shootout, was HEART-POUNDING. I’ve spent weeks reassuring my friend and fellow Ahsoka fan (since 2008) that she wasn’t going to die in this show that isn’t about her, but during that scene… all certainty went out the window. Props to Dave for creating such an iconic episode.

Ahsoka’s one of my favourite Star Wars characters, so this was a massive deal for me. Literally my only complaint is - what happened to Ahsoka’s head-tails? One part of me felt they shortened them for practicality, that’s probably the case, but Shaak Ti’s head-tails in Revenge of the Sith were really long. It was very odd and a little irritating but I got over it easily because of how well Rosario Dawson portrayed the character.

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Apologies for spamming the thread again, but… this shot.

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rocknroll41 said:

Couple of things I forgot to mention before:

1.Always great to see Michael Biehn getting work in Hollywood still!

Absolutely, though the Resistance sent him too far back this time 😉

2.It’s cool how this season has so many references to the Old Republic video games (the Krait Dragon battle, droids that look like HK47, the planet Tython, etc.).

I am inspired to go dig out the console from the loft and fire up the old games!
 

A great episode, yet again just leaving you wanting to see more of the story and adventure straight away. So much packed into this episode, and it could have so badly wrong if the delivery was off or lacking, yet they nailed it once again 👍
 

The only down side is that there are only three episodes left of the season (but what a season it has been so far!).

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Z6PO said:

The child’s name is a little silly, don’t you think?

Eh, you could argue that Yoda sounds silly. I think it’s just because it’s new and we got used to calling him by other names. We will get used to it.

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I can’t wait till they get to the Jedi temple and Gideon shows up following the tracker.

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So glad that Grogu is not a clone or whatever. But really interesting to see the comparison between Grogu & Mando and Anakin & Padme/Shmi in terms of attachment and how that affects Jedi potential.

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I wonder how long Rosario has to turn into Ahsoka Tano? (The hair and make up process, the prosthetics, and wardrobe)

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I loved this episode. The Yojimbo-inspired theme was neat and a good example of how this series, even though it’s a space western at its core, can successfully pull off diving into other genres for certain episodes.

Filoni took a huge gamble by revealing Ahsoka so early but I think it worked. Ahsoka’s white lightsabers look beautiful and Rosario Dawson’s casting was on-point. She has a reasonable resemblance to the character’s look and also nailed her mannerisms, so it was like watching the same Ahsoka we all know and love. The only thing that threw me off a bit was the length of her head-tails and horns, specially when the concept art showed they could have been bigger.

One think I used to love about the score is how it avoided most well known music themes, but I have to admit I got all emotional when I heard Yoda’s theme and especially Ahsoka’s theme from TCW.

I can spend hours and hours thinking of possible stories of how Grogu (I’m confident the name will grow on me) survived Order 66 and if he did witness other key events.

So hyped for Thrawn. Is he going to be a tease a for a spin-off series or will he eventually become a main antagonist for Mando? Also loved the Old Republic references.

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rocknroll41 said:

Also I think it’s weird that now they’re saying Baby Yoda (Grogu) was on coruscant during the clone wars and we never saw him. I’m kinda getting tired of starwars doing retcons like that, but oh well. It’ll be interesting to see where this all goes.

Well, there were 10 000 Jedi in the galaxy before order 66, with roughly 1/10 of them canonically being on Coruscant so there would have been plenty of Jedi and Younglings that we wouldn’t have seen in either the PT or TCW.

It’s interesting though that Ahsoka only mentions Yoda, however adding Yaddle to the conversation probably would have confused most viewers, and since we as an audience only saw her in TPM its possible she died or moved off Coruscant before Ahsoka was taken to the temple.

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Visually, this episode was incredible. Like others have said, I love the clear Yojimbo inspirations Filoni brought into this episode, and having a western standoff and a samurai duel play out simultaneously.

With that being said, I don’t really like how the Mandalorian has become some kind of sounding board for potential future spin-offs. Boba Fett, Bo-Katan, Ahsoka and Thrawn.

If these characters continue to play a role in the show, that’s fine. But at the same time, I hope certain characters, like Thrawn and Ahsoka, never show up in this show again. A part of me doesn’t like how some of them appear or are mentioned only for the sake of setting up another series. These kind of set ups do nothing for the story at hand.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m enjoying the show and having a lot of fun with it. But if were to provide any feedback, I think Favreau and Filoni are playing a dangerous game with their show. They’re walking a thin line between telling a good story, and setting up a cinematic universe. I suppose this is just the nature of this new medium.

I think this episode could’ve been even better with stronger writing. It just says something to me when more people are talking about the reveals, rather than how the story furthered the characterization of our protagonists. I wish our villains could have been more fleshed out as well, or we could have spent more time with the people of Calodan.

I would have really liked if Din had been more skeptical and suspicious of Ahsoka initially. I agree with idir_hh that it would have been more interesting if we had discovered Ahsoka along with Din, rather than be introduced to her before our protagonist. Think about it. All Din knows is that Jedi were once “enemy sorcerers” and “sworn enemies of Mandalore”. I expected a little more reservation from Din, to hand over the Child to a stranger such as this. Imagine Din walking into town and the Magistrate painting a very different picture of who this Jedi is, making Din even more suspicious. I think I would’ve enjoyed a more mysterious reveal for Ahsoka. This, combined with his attachment to the child, would make him more reluctant to give him to her, but he must because 1) this is the way, and 2) he isn’t sure if he alone can protect him from the Empire. Then, when they team up in the end, it would be even more earned.

I like how the episode with Bo-Katan showed this other side of Din. Din is close-minded and sheltered, at times, and seeing him work past certain misconceptions can be cathartic. Not taking advantage of that with what he has heard about the Jedi feels like a missed opportunity.

It’s my hope that, if they manage to reach Tython, that the child will choose to stay with Din. Then, we can move past all of this and accept that Din and the child are sticking together.

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I suspect that the Thrawn mention will come into play next season. Wouldn’t surprise me if we don’t see Ahsoka again until then.

Upon reflection, I was really impressed how this episode felt like every kind of Star Wars coming together in a unified whole and not feeling disjointed. PT (Clone Wars, Corouscant), OT (Yoda, explaining the Force, McQuarrie-ism), ST (the village, the guards), cartoons (Ahsoka, Thrawn), and EU (Thrawn, imperial remnants, Tython): it all felt like it belonged together.

Will be interesting to see how and when they get to Tython, and how that affects the show. It’s a Core World iirc, and this show has been very based in one corner of the Outer Rim. If we assume that S2 will conclude with dark troopers & Gideon, possibly with a kidnapping Grogu cliffhanger, then S3 is set up for traveling to Tython.

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timdiggerm said:

I suspect that the Thrawn mention will come into play next season. Wouldn’t surprise me if we don’t see Ahsoka again until then.

Upon reflection, I was really impressed how this episode felt like every kind of Star Wars coming together in a unified whole and not feeling disjointed. PT (Clone Wars, Corouscant), OT (Yoda, explaining the Force, McQuarrie-ism), ST (the village, the guards), cartoons (Ahsoka, Thrawn), and EU (Thrawn, imperial remnants, Tython): it all felt like it belonged together.

Will be interesting to see how and when they get to Tython, and how that affects the show. It’s a Core World iirc, and this show has been very based in one corner of the Outer Rim. If we assume that S2 will conclude with dark troopers & Gideon, possibly with a kidnapping Grogu cliffhanger, then S3 is set up for traveling to Tython.

How did the village and the guards remind you of the ST exactly? Just outta curiosity.

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A lot of people have mentioned the Kurosawa (specifically Yojimbo) vibe of the latest episode, but having rewatched it several times now it occurred to me that there’s a lot of Hayao Miyazaki’s Princess Mononoke in it as well, especially in the final confrontation. The village reminds me a lot of Irontown, Ahsoka jumping around the rooftops was very similar to San attack on the town, and the magistrate is very similarly dressed as Lady Eboshi and they both have a military enforcer. (As a side note, the Lothwolves from Rebels are also were similar to the Mononoke wolves.)

I’ve also heard people say its very similar to Avatar: The Last Airbender which Filoni worked on pre-TCW, but I haven’t seen any of that series so I can’t really comment on that.

And this might be a bit of a stretch, but the gas-mask soldiers reminded me a lot of the soldiers from Ralph Bakshi’s Wizards.

Overall though this episode had a strong 70’s / 80’s type of sci-fi vibe to it that I really liked, especially the music which gave me Blade Runner vibes more than once. I completely agree with timdiggerm that this episode was a pretty great combination of elements from all SW eras, but also adding new-ish sci-fi/fantasy elements that fit the SW mold. The latter has already been discussed a lot regarding this series, but I think this episode this it especially well.

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Wish I could find a gif of her slicing through the tree.