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#316063
Topic
Oliver Stone's "W" with Josh Brolin playing George W. Bush
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/316063/action/topic#316063
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C3PX said:

You can't really hide behind the excuse that his films are still valid based on a few honest tidbits surrounded by hyperbole and bending the truth for entertianment values sake. If the honest tidbits in his films are so scandalous, then why do they require stretching for the sake of ticket sales? Just a thought.


Indeed. He kind of brings that on himself. But I also think the reports of "HE'S MAKING STUFF UP!" are highly, highly overblown by opponents looking to discredit the politics he is in favor of.
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#316062
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New 'The Clone Wars' movie trailer
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/316062/action/topic#316062
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If you look at a lot of modern blockbusters the good ones are still like that CO; its not a generational thing. We just forget all the unmemorable ones from that same era--The Black Hole, Jaws 3, Rocky II, Death Wish 3, all those terrible Clint Eastwood movies, Smokey and the Bandit, etc.--because if you look at today there is, when you filter out the crap, a remarkable amount of blockbusters aimed at both kids and adults: Superman Returns, Spiderman 2, Batman Begins, Pirates of the Carribean, War of the Worlds, Lord of the Rings trilogy, Transformers, Harry Potter, Men in Black, Finding Nemo. Maybe these aren't quite as good as that late 70's-early 80's crop, but its not as dismal when you really look at the films that stand out, and thats always the way its been, kids of the current generation will be reminicing about the films I list there, not the disposable crap thats out every week. People always talk about the 70's as the golden age of American cinema, but if you actually go back and look at week-by-week the movies that all came out most of them were crap, movies like Taxi Driver and Annie Hall were the minority, but we just remember those ones.
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#316056
Topic
Oliver Stone's "W" with Josh Brolin playing George W. Bush
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/316056/action/topic#316056
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JFK's plot has been described as thought-provoking or myth-provoking depending on what interpretation of the assassination you subscribe to. Naturally.

Personally I think its a shame that Moore often fudges things and gets carried off by entertainment value because the truth within his films gets tossed out with the rest; he occassionally has some very valid things to say.
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#316049
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New 'The Clone Wars' movie trailer
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/316049/action/topic#316049
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Johnboy3434 said:

I like how you're judging the entire plot of the movie on one comment made in the trailer. That is an incredibly stupid thing to do. You ever think that the Republic might have something to gain by helping the Hutts? You know, something that might not be in the 2-minutes worth of disjointed scenes we have available? I don't need the Force to sense predetermined bias in your thought patterns.


Johnboy the very premise itself, irrespective of whatever justification used, runs entirely counter to the portrayal and sensibilities of the other films that its entirely reasonable to expect people to judge this as "dumb" (dumb as in running counter to the story previously established). Same goes with the Clone Wars coming to Tatooine, let alone involving Jabba and this notion of him having a son.
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#315994
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New 'The Clone Wars' movie trailer
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/315994/action/topic#315994
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see you auntie said:

Off on a slight tangent... It has nothing to do with the Clone Wars but I didn't want to start a new topic and it has to do with Jabba the Hutt and Tatooine.

I was thinking about some peoples criticism of ROTJ, something that I've only learnt about in the the last few years, that it's too much of a rehash of SW with the second Death Star etc, this had never occured to me previously.

Anyway previous to 1982 was there anything in the SW universe to suggest that Jabba the Hutt was a crime boss on Tatooine? Apart from the Jabba deleted scene from SW which places him on Tatooine.

I was thinking it was a curious decision to have Luke return home in ROTJ to rescue Han. Could the story have been as easily as written having Jabba a gangster of some other random lawless planet. And Greedo having tracked Solo across the galaxy to some backwater planet called Tatooine in SW.

Like I said it's just a curiosity. I still love ROTJ despite its few flaws. The Jabba's Palace/ Tatooine stuff was always one of my favourite parts of the trilogy as a kid. Nothing excites the inner child in me quite like Luke igniting his new lightsaber for the first time


I feel this way too. My suspicion is that Jabba was never a native to Tatooine, but Lucas used the line in ESB "I'll meet you on Tatooine," as an excuse to place the Han rescue there. Mos Eisley is a space port after all--Han lands there, having come from wherever he was before, and Jabba and Greedo track him there. They weren't actually just living there, and by coincidence Han--supposedly avoiding them--just happens to cross paths with them. The line in ESB is not implied as where Jabba is--its just a rendevouz point when Luke gets out of the hospital. When Lando finds Han he will send Luke a signal and they will reunite on a remote planet--Tatooine.

If you look at the ESB dialog:

Lando: When we find Jabba the Hutt and that bounty hunter, we'll contact you...Princess, we'll find Han. I promise.

Luke: I'll be waiting for your signal...I'll meet you at the rendevouz point on Tatooine.

Lando and Chewie are going off to find Han. They don't know where Fett has taken him, because Jabba is just some gangster, not the ruler of Tatooine with a palace. So if they know Jabba lives on Tatooine, then why the big deal about finding and searching for Han? Tatooine is just a rendevouz place for when they finally track where Han has been brought. But maybe Lucas just wanted to simplify things so he just made it that they go to Tatooine because Jabba lives there and has this cool palace with muppets and aliens and it will be a cool action sequence that basically rehashes the cantina, only better.
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#315972
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Leading To War
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/315972/action/topic#315972
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lordjedi said:

zombie84 said:

Since Iraq and the middle east is in a worse state than when Saddam was around, no, we didn't really gain anything through his downfall.

I can't believe that some people can possibly defend the war in Iraq. Okay, maybe some people had different expectations when they first went in there, but after everything thats happened and come out, theres really nothing positive to say about it.


Nothing positive? How about real elections. How about people not being put into meat grinders. How about peaceful political dissension (read non-violent protests) actually being tolerated instead of the perpetrators being killed.


While that is nice, it comes served with a side dish of bloody civil war and massive destabilization in a region that was already a hell-hole, which has resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people. Though granted new opporunities, Iraq is nonetheless far worse off than it was before the US invaded, it has unraveled into a complete mess that will not be able to be cleaned up in anyones lifetime, and the negative effects of the US invasion will continue to be felt long after the US pulls out there, whenever that will be. The American Revolution was a choice a nation made for itself, not one forced upon them by an outside occupier. If you are going to use the American Revolution as an analogy, then the US would be Britain and the Iraqi's would be the Colonials, since they are the indiginous peoples trying to throw off the impositions of a foreign power. I'm not saying that its terrible that theres some effort to build a democracy, because ideally that is a good thing, but the manner in which it was attempted was horribly misguided and did not have the best intentions of the Iraqi people behind it.
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#315956
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Leading To War
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/315956/action/topic#315956
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Since Iraq and the middle east is in a worse state than when Saddam was around, no, we didn't really gain anything through his downfall.

I can't believe that some people can possibly defend the war in Iraq. Okay, maybe some people had different expectations when they first went in there, but after everything thats happened and come out, theres really nothing positive to say about it.
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#315855
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New 'The Clone Wars' movie trailer
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/315855/action/topic#315855
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The thing about the Vintage Edit's is that they are SD. That was fine in 2006, but I think a true "preservation" should be HD, because not only is that competitive with the SE version available, but its the highest quality and truely does preserve the films in a form that will basically be permanent (ie not upgraded; I suppose in the future if there is a new master of the SE with improved coloring and black levels then that would be a better start source, or if there is a BluRay with improved compression, but otherwise I think a HD-based OOT from the current HD masters is, relatively speaking, a safe and permanent master that won't be made obsolete).

Not only that, the 2004 DVD's are not the best source for an SD version--SWRevisited shows what an improvement a custom HD-downconversion can do.

I am of course being nitpicky. But as you said, if you are going to do it, do it right.
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#315844
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New 'The Clone Wars' movie trailer
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/315844/action/topic#315844
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Star Wars Revisited came very close to achieving a "virtual OOT" preservation by using the HD SE and de-volving it through sophisticated rotoscoping and compositing so that it matched close to the original version. He didn't go all the way because he wanted to keep some SE thing, but if he wanted to he probably could have. I propose the completion of this as the future of OOT preservations, sourced from HD versions.
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#315821
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New 'The Clone Wars' movie trailer
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/315821/action/topic#315821
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I can put aside all the retcon and deviations from the actual films, because as long as the story is good and the characters well done and it is entertaining, that is really all that matters, you can just sit and enjoy it. But theres nothing about this show I can find that gives me any confidence, any time I learn something new my opinion sinks. I mean its not like we've seen the show but theres lots of info and clips around now to judge by.

-bad storyline. Yoda and Anakin's padawan saving Jabbas son? Thats the story??
-bad visuals. The thing looks like fucking Reboot from 1995, except its not 1995 and this is a feature film.
-bad writing. Have you heard the way Yoda speaks in the trailer? If thats an indication of how the dialog is, then we are in trouble. And its consistent with the first point I brought up, and consistent with the next
-action overload. If you look at the material presented online its all action, theres like 3 lines of bad exposition dialog, a ridiculously lame story about Anakin and his Padawan being sent to Tatooine with an army of clones by Yoda to rescue Jabbas son thats barely even mentioned, and everything else is just eye candy and pointless fighting shots.

And this brings me to the realisation that I originally had: its just a bloody Lucasfilm tv show for kids. Not much effort has gone into it, the characters will not be developed the way they would in a real, serious feature film because this was just a show designed for Saturday morning for the kids that will be lining up to buy Force Unleashed. I had hoped that this would be something more, because it sounded maybe promising and Lucas started getting involved and then they decided to release it theatrically, so I thought maybe my prejudgement was premature, but it turns out that I just got tricked by the Lucasfilm hype machine.
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#315797
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New 'The Clone Wars' movie trailer
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/315797/action/topic#315797
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Its up elsewhere though.

My laugh-out-loud moment:

Yoda: Kidnapped, Jabba's son has been.

I thought maybe this show would be something to get excited by or involved in but I've yet to learn anything about it thats enticing. Some of the action scenes have a really big scale to them, from the looks of things, so thats nice I guess, but the CG looks like crap. Its really just a big video game. I mean, I guess its like any of the spin-off material like the comics and video games, you don't take it seriously or invest anything in it and maybe there might be a few cool moments worth watching, but I had hopes that this would actually be a good show. I guess the actual product will offer definitive proof but I think the content and execution is apparent enough now to give significant examples of how the actual show will be played out. And Lucas is the one coming up with this story material? Well, maybe that makes sense, judging by the prequels.
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#315789
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Will your interest in the Star Wars universe be affected...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/315789/action/topic#315789
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canofhumdingers said:

Fang Zei said:

Hey, the fact that there's now a better format around than vhs is kind of what puts a damper on being enthusiastic about the movies themselves isn't it? I'm being serious, by the way. There was no 4:3 and 16:9 with vhs, everything was just 4:3. Hence the glory of the 90's. One last time in '95, SE in '97, both on the same format, equal treatment.


Actually, the Trilogy was available in widescreen on VHS as early as 1993 in the states (not sure about foreign markets) so the pan & scan issue was there. Ah, unless you're talking about the whole 4:3 letterboxed vs anamorphically enhanced for 16x9 tv issue & not aspect ratios of the video content itself.... i see.... nevermind


Since there was no such thing as widescreen sets the "letterbox" VHS was really enhanced for every possible type of television since there was only 4x3.
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#315713
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Real-life 'Imperial Walkers' coming to a galaxy near you...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/315713/action/topic#315713
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lordjedi said:

zombie84 said:

I wonder if you could use this sort of thing to aid disabled people instead of killing.


They already have them.

http://www.ibotnow.com/


Yeah but those can't go off-roading through an uphill snow-covered forest like the dog thing. Would be cool to offer that kind of mobility to the disabled. Of course even if they could offer such a thing I imagine it would cost a million dollars.
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#315689
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Will your interest in the Star Wars universe be affected...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/315689/action/topic#315689
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I would still be involved with Star Wars because I love the story beyond the movie itself. I was online long before the issue of "getting Star Wars properly treated" was ever in existance--its a pretty modern issue really, it didn't come into focus until Star Wars was on DVD at all, which was 2004. Having a high-def OOT would properly temper my enthusiasm a bit because I would have what I wanted but its not like I'm only interested in the Star Wars universe to make up for the void of an HD OOT. Thats just silly. I just watched my VHS of the trilogy this week and in some ways I enjoy that more than DVD!
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#315687
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Further proof GL has lost his mind... Clone Wars
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/315687/action/topic#315687
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I know, but the point is that preportionally the majority of games focus on the razzle-dazzle and powers. Thats not a bad thing, they are games. Factor in stuff like sports, racing and fighting games and it really becomes apparent that games where there are strong story and characters are really rare, especially outside of the RPG genre. And even still, in games with advanced gameplay, good characters and a highly developed story, a lot of times theres still emphasis on power-ups and upgrading your ability, which I think was the point being made--I mean I remember the Enter the Matrix game was fantastic for character and storyline while maintaining pretty state of the art gaming, but it too had a big emphasis on discovering new fighting moves and matrix bullet-time abilities. So I don't think its fair to say thats "bullshit" or that you don't know games, it seems more like you yourself are just selectively ignoring 90% of the market because of your personal tastes in gaming.

But I mean--what else do people expect in a video game? You have to design it around abilities because thats the actual gameplay. Star Wars games have always greatly embellished what appears in the movies, and usually to good effect--I mean as faithful as the old Super Star Wars series was, it was equally off-the-map. Its just a game. Either wake up or move on.
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#315634
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Further proof GL has lost his mind... Clone Wars
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/315634/action/topic#315634
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lordjedi said:

Pakka said:

Much like the movie industry, technology allows for more over the top, showy effects, which are then used to hype the product to power-hungry teenage boys. Whatever story might be involved is completely overshadowed by the awesome powers and physics simulation in the game.


Bullshit. You either don't play a lot of games or you believe the hype. The only games in the past 10 years that came out that had very little story and still sold well were the Quake series. That pretty much ended with Doom 3 though. It had amazing graphics, but the "story" and gameplay sucked absolute ass and it's referred to as a $50 tech demo.


Most games have some sort of storyline but the emphasis is always on the powerups and super-abilities and razzle-dazzle (obviously, they are video games after all) and I think thats the point being made. Few games, preportionally speaking, have the depth of character and storyline that say, the Final Fantasy games have, and even there a big part of it is upgrading your powers and abilities into ever-more-grand preportions.
(Not to mention, there are millions of games without much story, from Smash Brothers to all the Capcom games to stuff like Twisted Metal)
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#315526
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Lucas to sue Star Wars designer
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/315526/action/topic#315526
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Ralph McQuarrie has always been legit when he sells his stuff.

This guy on the other hand--what IS he claiming exactly? That he DESIGNED them? McQuarrie designed them, and John Mollo translated the designs into a physical costume. This guy just worked at the factory they were manufactured in. So, putting aside the issue of licencing, he doesn't even have a claim to anything in the first place.
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#315459
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Official: 'THE CLONE WARS' movie in Theaters 8/15/08
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/315459/action/topic#315459
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lordjedi said:

"Do you see any end to working on Star Wars?
[Vigorously shakes his head]

No?
No. I mean, I'm doing it just for fun now. You know, I'm an executive producer now — I don't do the day-to-day work. I check in once a week, maybe, and it'll be the same thing on the live-action show. I'm also [producing] Red Tails [his long-in-the-works project about WWII's Tuskegee Airmen] — I'm producing all these things now. And then, hopefully, in a year or two I'll be completely removed and I'll just be able to go off and do my own movies again."

So much for moving on after Episode 3. It's been 3 years already George. What makes you think you're going to be completely removed from the process in only a couple more years when you couldn't remove yourself after 3?


At least he is being honest now. He'll never let go of Star Wars because its a cash cow first of all, and second of all if he did that then he might have to actually challenge himself and do something original.