zeropc

i'm a bit confused because to my knowledge capturing the pcm audio of a laserdisc through optical (toslink) is bit-perfect. i mean what else can one do? increasing the capture from 16bit to 24bit wont do anything, except a higher filesize. increasing the samplerate from 44.1khz to 48khz on capture wont do anything either, in terms of quality.

i mean, the laserdisc pcm is 16bit @ 44.1khz - what more can you do?

so what do people refer to when they talk about bit-perfect and saying that a normal digital capture wont be enough?

please enlighten me :)

IcePrick said:

I would love to have those Kubrick monos :D

once they are captured, i can make them available :)

digitalfreaknyc brought up a search for the 2002 version of the movie and that’s where it clicked for me. i have to get rid of the 7.1 upmix and get the original mix. now before jump and go all nuts, the mix is included on the blu-ray as dts with low bitrate of 448kbps and it sound pretty good. but when a lossy dts can sound good, how would a fully uncompressed track from the laserdisc sound like? well, even better and you wouldn’t have the problems of dts not triggering the proper surround mode, which is exactly what happens for me on the blu-ray sighs

so long story short: i’m requesting the untouched (16bit, 44.1khz) pcm from thx signature laserdisc.

can anyone help out a fellow e.t. fan?

thanks in advance 😃

jonno, pm send.

the german transfer from the new kinowelt boxset of army of darkness u.s. theatrical cut is the same as the hd-dvd. you wont get anything better then this, unless universal would do a complete rescan of the ocn - to make all the cuts look stunning.

the original mono mix can only be found on the old us laserdisc and japan laserdisc. the mono audio on these ld is also analog. so to get the best quality, someone with a good capture setup would be need to capture the audio.

everything after these laserdisc had the circle surround remix, up to the dreadful 7.1 remix on blu-ray. at least they included the original mono mix as a lossy dolby track.

suntech said:

I have the Abyss Special Widescreen Edition Stereo Extended Play 2 disc LD from Fox Video Both Analog and Digital tracks.  Will that work?

yes. the digital track would be awesome.

thanks suntech :)

it's a soft-pulldown. run the video through eac3to and it will remove it for you. i highly recommend eac3to for the process from hd-dvd to bd. eac3to can read the structure and that makes joining audio/video files + removing the pulldown very easy.

Jetrell Fo said:

zeropc said:

jfyi, the blu-rays also contain the original mono tracks.

I just figured for those who may not be BD capable or willing yet, this would be some good info to pass down.

:)

it was no criticism. just information for those who want either one :)

the jap blu-ray is from geneon/universal. could be the original mix. though it has the trims of movie done for the blu-ray release.

an update on mad max 3 laserdisc audio

we have it now! kudos to pdb for providing the pcm track. though, it needs to be synced. hopefully i find time to do so. but with the awesome weather, i rather spend time outside ;)

nice one you_too :)

jfyi, the blu-rays also contain the original mono tracks.

dvdmike said:

Heat, they ruined the mix 

on all dvd/blu-ray (incl. jap br) releases and what did they do?

well, i was shocked too. but what can we do other then to complain to disney. though, i will certainly check the disc out myself, but  from what i've heard i better stick to the itunes version.

matt, the seed at the bay is also color-corrected or only with your synced criterion-ld audio and subtitles?

request filled :)

special thanks to pdb for providing the audio from the criterion laserdisc.

is that even possible on some of the more extreme changes done to the blu-ray?

or dante's peak

Doctor M said:

zeropc said:

someone made a comparison of the itunes movie store version (1080p at 1.33:1) vs the blu-ray.
please note that the itunes version has been resized for a closer comparison.

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/33385

Is that legit?  It makes the blu-ray look like somebody used temporal noise reduction, an edge enhancer and pushed it out the door.  It's doesn't look like real HD at all.

it's legit. i have the itunes version and brought that topic up on another board. after that, this comparison was done.

someone made a comparison of the itunes movie store version (1080p at 1.33:1) vs the blu-ray.
please note that the itunes version has been resized for a closer comparison.

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/33385

the last time i added a pcm file to tsmuxer i had to make a .w64 audio file. but hey, if works for you then it's one step less ;)

singhcr said:

How do you encode a matrixed 2.0 PCM audio track, exactly? I have the PCM stereo file from Jonno but I need to author it with the surround flags.

don't touch it. the audio is already properly flagged. just add the pcm to your project. if you're going for a simple remux with tsmuxer, run the pcm through eac3to and export as .w64 or tsmuxer wont recognize the audio file. don't worry, you're not re-encoding. you just change the container. if you use mkv, then this step is not needed.

looks like the sword in the stone blu-ray is cropped to 16:9. original aspect ratio is 4:3.

Matt_Stevens said:

zeropc said:

here is a comparison of the japanese vs the german blu-ray.

in terms of detail the jap is a clear winner. but the picture is too bright. the german release wins in this regard.

My re-authored Hard Boiled fixes the brightness issue. It pretty much fixes everything. 

can you please tell us more about it?