yoda-sama

Yes, we should all practice safe viewing.

chyron8472 said:

yoda-sama said:

Any way you go, it is hard to see why Windows has the dominance it does, and Windows 8 only goes to prove that it shouldn't realistically be so ubiquitous.

People don't use Macs as much because they have fewer games and because they're more expensive for the same processing power.

People don't use Linux as much because, again there are *MUCH* fewer games, the number of flavors is confusing, and (likely depending more or less on the flavor), it requires a certain understanding about command line usage.

Windows has certain proprietary advantages over Linux; and it has a smaller price point and more power user abilities than Mac OS.

 

People say that Mac OS is better because there are no viruses, but the reason why is because the market share is so small. If the market share for Mac in any way rivaled that of Windows, you can bet your ass there would indeed be viruses.

The command line thing is mostly a myth anymore, at least with any modern main-stream distro, which any new user would basically only fall into something Debian based (Ubuntu or Mint) or (less likely) Red Hat based (Fedora).  The plethora of distros beyond that cater to preferences and choice of more venerable users.  And as far as the age old games argument, with the hardcore push by Valve for native Linux support of Steam and Windows 8 Store's competitiveness with traditional Windows game distribution (publishers aren't all thrilled with that), I think we should reserve judgement until we see how things pan out in this current landscape.  Plus, we'll just have to see if Microsoft's proprietary lure can overcome that horrid new interface (keep in mind, even if some of you find it usable with third party start buttons, you aren't going to see that on corporate systems, which makes it a much less usable choice for business), that and Linux has its own unique strengths that can be attractive to businesses.

Also, you won't see me defending Mac, so I guess that wraps up this bit of off topic for me.

Topic... on topic... um... v2.1 works great in Linux!

Harmy, I've spot checked a few things in the 2.1 and just want to say what a massive improvement Alec Guinness' opening scenes are, because of your color tweaks the picture no longer looks blown out or the characters difficult to distinguish from the background like it was in 2.0.  Phenomenal job.  Also, I'd like to note that in my 30 years, this is the first that I've noticed just how tattered Ben's robes are in that scene; thanks for bringing my nostalgia back in a very vivid way.

Mavimao said:

Uh, I would have had it this morning if Windows wasn't a dork and automatically downloaded updates and restarted my computer in the middle of the night! Is this a common thing? I have a mac, but needed to bootcamp into windows for work and began downloading the film in the background. At least OS x has the common curtosy to not reboot unless you ask it to!!

Rant over- I can't wait to come back home and watch it!!

You'd think they'd consider more than just the lowest common denominator of PC user skills, but Microsoft doesn't.  You can turn that off manually by adjusting your automatic update settings to have it just notify you rather than automatically downloading or installing.  That or stay on OSX or switch to Linux (as I use 90+% of the time).  Any way you go, it is hard to see why Windows has the dominance it does, and Windows 8 only goes to prove that it shouldn't realistically be so ubiquitous.

CatBus said:

yoda-sama said:

Wow, this gives me some inspiration on how to one day approach this with my future children... I've been wondering about it for a while, really hate dubs and haven't been wanting to introduce such things to them in what I feel is sub-par/wrong version.

I was totally trying not to further add to this thread derail.  Did everyone notice how good I was being?  For like half an hour, even.  Nevertheless, don't get too excited about the prospect of your kid liking subbed movies.  My oldest boy also didn't mind watching (coincidentally!) subbed Kiki when he was three.  Now he's five and he has no patience at all for it.  Perhaps because he can read now, but not fast enough to keep up, and the subs are frustrating for him.

What is good one day can be bad the next, that's parenthood.  Also don't get excited about your toddler who's not at all afraid of swimming, or who likes eating vegetables.  Things change.  Every day!  Then they change back again just to throw you off.

Thanks for the advise, it is so noted.  And while it will be a great challenge to keep them into original language shows (hopefully they'll at least not develop nostalgia for just the dub), I hope they'll never grow out of original version Star Wars (and thus, I bring this back to topic).

Hopefully almost the last bit of off topic from me: is getting a separate ADSL modem not an option?  The Tomato USB firmware, removable antenna, flash, RAM and amount of connections it can sustain are pretty desirable features on the RT-N16, though the X3000 doesn't look like a shabby hybrid of gigabit, N and ADSL...

We can move this conversation to a PM if you wish.

davextreme said:

CatBus said:

I've got young kids, so while I prefer to watch everything subbed (and I'm even one of those snooty ones who also prefers the literal subs on the Japanese discs), I'll be watching with dubs exclusively for many, many years and they may grow on me. 

Briefly off-topic: I was surprised with how my 3-year-old daughter took to the Japanese on Kiki's Delivery Service. We watch it in either English or Japanese and I think since she knows what's happening she just goes with the flow. Plus kids are used to stuff going over their heads all the time so I think she just doesn't mind it. But we watch English probably 80% of the time.

Harmy, thank you for all your work on this. Alexandria, VA, USA here.

Wow, this gives me some inspiration on how to one day approach this with my future children... I've been wondering about it for a while, really hate dubs and haven't been wanting to introduce such things to them in what I feel is sub-par/wrong version.

You_Too, if you don't need dual band on your wireless N, I'd suggest getting an ASUS RT-N16 and installing Tomato USB firmware on it.  I've been very happy with it, it is a very capable and well equipped router.

I wasn't complaining at him for just not reading back pages, all the questions he's asked have been thoroughly answered between his posts, so I had to ask how he missed what should be obvious to anyone keeping up.  He's too busy to read, and that's at least a reason.

Fair enough.

animemaakuo, do you even read this forum?

TV's Frink said:

INv8r_ZIM said:

Ginge said:

Guspaz said:

A theatrical release of Phantom Menace seems like a waste of Harmy's considerable talents. Getting to see Jar Jar in all his theatrical glory is not something I particularly feel a need to do :P

 

I couldn't agree more, a theatrical Phantom Menace is a complete waste of time. You can't polish a turd... the prequels are garbage and should be forgotten. 

In both of your opinions, of course, you forgot to say.  I'll go OT for a second while we wait for updates from Harmy, and understand you're getting to stand in for a whole bunch of people here.  As I get older I find this to be the single most depressing part of the internet; when people get to be utterly anonymous and never have to actually face the people they speak at, they have no problem making sweeping generalizations, using insane rhetoric, acting as if their opinion were fact, and treating anyone who disagrees with them like a drooling moron, clearly not up to their intellectual level. 

In any event, don't worry, I'll make sure to tell my kids, who enjoy AotC and RotS, how wrong and stupid they are because the films are garbage without any merit at all.

Well this thread sure got interesting all of the sudden. :p

Yeah, I know, now he's trying to argue that children are smart...  Children like Jar-Jar, children are not smart, QED.

Chyron8472, I really want the versions of the covers you have in mind.  I personally agree with your stance on "official" looking covers over anal adherence to particulars.  Though it might be good to supply an array of cover versions to appease the masses...

And yeah, I wouldn't classify this as fighting either, more likely debating...

bkev, you say that, but there're also people giving a guy crap for something he worked hard on, when only a bit of input is actually necessary...

I fully remember that, but I also acknowledge that I grew up with the home video releases and am fully accustomed to the re-addition of Episode IV to the title (which Fox originally made them remove to, understandably, eliminate confusion; though makes it a legitimate "original vision").  If all that was changed (as it was in the VHS days, ignoring a few audio alterations) was the addition of JUST that, then things wouldn't be as big a deal as they are; it is the CF of changes that occurred 1997 and onwards that led to this rightful backlash.  Regardless of what is on screen (and I'm perfectly fine with it being the theatrical take), the choice of cover content should be flexible enough to allow for saga consistency for those who want it.

Agreed on being kept away from his money.  Disagreed on the removal of the Episode IV A New Hope, at least to the point that it isn't an option...  I'd say that both IV and purist versions of the same cover should be available, so people can choose between consistency and correctness when they print their own set.

Meh, as far as I'm concerned, as long as it isn't tainting the movie itself, it isn't a huge deal if Episode IV and A New Hope are on the cover, it gives consistency with the other covers if nothing else...  There's little denying that IV is where it lands in the line-up, after all.

Later actually means it'll be done when it is done, it is a lot of effort, which is all being done by one [great] guy whom is doing it all voluntarily in his spare time.  Also, he is, thankfully, an amazing perfectionist.  So, start hanging out and enjoy waiting for however long.

Also, I like your avatar.

Besides, we need Harmy's ROTJ V2.0 before we can have a satisfying ending to the saga.

Shouldn't The Phantom Menace have to be considered at all special before getting any attention?  But seriously, would that mean putting puppet Yoda back in, or something more invasive like doing an HD Phantom Edit?  Either way, it would be a shame if a prequel slowed down or interfered with the progress on the Original Trilogy in any way.

Tobar said:

yoda-sama said:

I suppose, but the little droid isn't on screen long enough to get proper Torgo theme music going.  Besides Tobor is from the Rifftrax to the Star Wars Holiday Special (totally watch it this way, btw), which makes it a relevant reference for a Star Wars commentary.

If your parents love you, they will buy you Tobor.

Someone summon me?

Close, but your name spelled backwards is Rabot, not Robot, and you're probably not for sale.  Can you retrieve support modules, though?

I agree that even if talk of your work goes on beyond the particular shots, it should be quite acceptable, even welcome, to take up otherwise dead air where you didn't make any changes with further explanation.

Poita, are you saying you'd take audio of him talking about all of his work and then edit/arrange that into a topical commentary track?  If so, I could see it being interesting, though I do enjoy the flow of a real time talk; but then I may just love the occasional mild rambling and accidental insight that tends to slip in...

INv8r_ZIM said:

yoda-sama said:

I suppose, but the little droid isn't on screen long enough to get proper Torgo theme music going.  Besides Tobor is from the Rifftrax to the Star Wars Holiday Special (totally watch it this way, btw), which makes it a relevant reference for a Star Wars commentary.

If your parents love you, they will buy you Tobor.

Have had it (actually, full confession, along with every single feature riff, and a whack of shorts and iriffs as well...btw, Breaking Wind..er...Dawn pt 2 next week, WOO-HOO!!) since release...don't remember Tobor though.  I blocked out a whole bunch of that one.

 

And there's ALWAYS time for the haunting Torgo theme...

 

 

Btw, what the heck is that last pic from?  Only one I've never seen, and I never realized they shot any of the cockpit stuff against, what, rear projection?  Awesome pic.

Tobor was among the commercials they riffed during The Holiday Special.  Check it out here, with rifftrax  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3dx2uGcbHk

"Tobor is robot spelled backwards."

I suppose, but the little droid isn't on screen long enough to get proper Torgo theme music going.  Besides Tobor is from the Rifftrax to the Star Wars Holiday Special (totally watch it this way, btw), which makes it a relevant reference for a Star Wars commentary.

If your parents love you, they will buy you Tobor.