yoda-sama

A Jedi's strength flows from the surround mix. But beware of the mono mix. Anger, fear, aggression; the mono mix are they. If once you start down the mono path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will.

Is the mono mix better?

No, no, no. Quicker, easier, more seductive.

But how am I to know the good mix from the bad?

You will know...

[okay, I'm done now]

Do or do not, there is no mono mix.

This is not the mono mix you are looking for, move along, move along.

Certainly a shame it doesn't look like there'll be 35mm scans available, especially since, from what information I've absorbed about Star Wars film stocks, ROTJ film stands a much better chance of still looking really good (as by then they switched to better Kodak film stock that didn't have the notoriously bad fading issues).

Do you know if -1 at least has a copy of Jedi?

Why did they do that "I know" gif with '04 SE footage?  Redo it with Harmy or GOUT footage, I say!

Zer0Squared said:

murfmurf said:

myspleen torrent up now. I stole your thunder, Zer0Squared >:D

Harmy said:

Well, crap - I must have forgotten to add the information about the 93 track in when I was switching out the GOUT track I already had for the file h_h sent me. I guess I will re-upload it but if you've already got it, I'd recommend simply putting it trough MKV Merge and adding the info yourselves, rather than re-downloading. It may be prudent though to take down the spleen torrent for now - I should have the fixed version up on uloz.to within an hour or so.

Is there anything else I could fix, while I'm at it?

Yep, you won, murfmurf.  LoL

 And THIS is why we tried to agree on assigning someone to perform that duty...

Really enjoying the picture gallery, Harmy.  By the way, did you mean to leave out pictures covering the lightsaber color correction during the Wampa scene?

Yeah, Jedi v2.0 is next now that Empire v2.0 has released.

Harmy said:

yoda-sama said:

BTW, Harmy, did you see my question a few pages back about the source of the opening scroll and the yellow bleeding at the bottom?

I have. Have you been reading this thread? I'm sorry, I don't mean to be an ass, it's just getting a bit tiresome answering the same questions a hundred times over.

 I've been keeping up as best I can, but whenever it was covered it must not have stuck out to me.  And, to beat a dead horse, good search options would be really nice here...  Anyway, as long as you're aware of it and are fine with it, then it must not be a problem.

Edit:  I've found mention of the yellow bleed back on page 67and it sounds like it has always been there, so that's good, but I still am curious what source you used for the scroll on this project, was it just straight from the Blu-ray?

I was going to point out a minor fix that in the line "preservations of the original audio mixes in DTS-HD" "DTS-HD MA" might be more appropriate, but it looks like the MKV is out the door, so disregard this minor detail.

BTW, Harmy, did you see my question a few pages back about the source of the opening scroll and the yellow bleeding at the bottom?

Ugh... I was afraid Doug Detling would end up doing that...

If it is really 35mm, then it'll probably be 97SE, but yes, do brush up on the differences.

You're getting lost on the fact that the first post can be edited whenever the original poster wants.  Forums, such as these, usually reserve the first post or two for use later, to contain the most up-to-date information in one easy to reference spot.  If you look in the bottom right of the first post, it'll say the date it was last edited.

I guess my post couldn't be last forever...  AntuFaalb, I'm impressed you actually haven't seen any of the SE versions this whole time.  Still, the '97 SE isn't as consistently irksome as watching what they did from '04 and on.

Harmy, if you don't get the scenes you wanted from that iTunes book, are 35mm scans of Jedi becoming available instead?  I have no idea how far along -1 is.

DavidMerrick said:

I did keep this in mind, but I ran some tests and the drive doesn't have any problem reading CDs or DVDs. When I ran a test using some Windows Fixit software, it just said that the DVD-Rs weren't writable.

 All right, but I will say, I had a drive go bad on me once, and it crapped out in phases, it could read CD's and DVD's, but not write to -R but +R still worked, then no DVDs would write, then CD writing went out, or something like that.  I'd test those discs on another drive before writing them off as bad.

DavidMerrick said:

Oh wow, the moment I downloaded the AVCHD is the moment I learned that all of my blank DVD-Rs just won't write anymore. My disc drive won't even recognize them. In any case, I was able to extract the video file and it looks great, and it's reassuring knowing the MKV will look even better. God, the revised Cloud City walkthroughs look so crisp. Great work, Harmy!

 Keep in mind, it could be your DVD drive going bad, rather than your discs having problems.

I still don't see how at least the last part of the original Clone Wars animated series--the part that directly related to the 3rd movie by setting up all the events at the beginning of that film--isn't considered canon.  Rest of that series kind of blew, but the stuff that directly related to the films seemed rather important.

Intruder said:

Harmy said:

Actually, I'm planning two MKV versions, the main one with 15000Kbps BD compatible stream and lossless audio and then another, cropped to 1280x542 [...]

Can anyone tell me, why the main release is not cropped?

 Blu-ray compliance, I'm sure.

I will have to try again, but the one time I tried to skip back a few seconds under XBMC 13.1 (Ubuntu 14.04 64-bit), the video hung.  To get anything other than audio going again, I had to stop then resume the file playback.  I'll try jumping around in it again later (pausing seemed to work fine, though).

Question for Harmy, what was the source for the opening crawl?  I assume it just came straight from the BD; wherever it came from, it doesn't seem to me to be as sharp as the crawl you recreated for SW.  More importantly, when text comes onto the screen at the bottom it has a bit of a yellow bleed around it, which goes away some the further onto the screen it crawls.  Is that something you consider as having looked that way originally, or might a newly generated crawl be in order for v2.1?

Did the canonical status of the original Clone Wars series officially get stripped?  If so, did it go out the window with the Expanded Universe, or sometime before that (in short, explain this canon purge)?  Also, does the CG Clone Wars series ever deal with the events directly leading up to Episode III?

WedgeCyan said:

yoda-sama said:

 Which one of these are you talking about as being canon? 

 The 2008 Clone Wars computer animated series is the one still considered canon. As someone who has watched both series in their entirety... I hate to admit it but the CG series somehow managed to capture more of the OT spirit, with tons of character development, particularly of Obi-Wan and the new character Ahsoka. The Gendy series was just Samurai Jack in space.

As Samurai Jack or Dexter's Lab as it was, the Genndy Tartakovsky version did originally tie in with the movies, quite directly.  So, in your opinion, the later CG "reboot" of Clone Wars felt more like what it should have been, so it is "still considered canon" as opposed to the non-canon status you most likely are applying to the original series...  That actually defends the position that if something "better" came along with the same names as the movies of the PT, that they could be supplanted.  (Again, not my opinion that that would happen, but it is interesting to see it occurring under your noses with a related property.)

Oh, a couple more things.  When everyone talks about how Clone Wars is canon, so the PT should stay canon; or ignoring the PT is fine as long as Clone Wars is still canon, etc., what version are you referring to?  There's the Genndy Tartakovsky series, which actually bridged the gap of what happened immediately before Episode III (how Grievous got injured and Palpatine was kidnapped), which surely makes it canonical to that related film, and then there's the still running or wrapping up CGI Clone Wars series (I haven't watched that at all, but I have to wonder if it covered that same material relating to Episode III).  Which one of these are you talking about as being canon?  None of the wording has sounded like both are being talked about, so, would this be an example of one thing replacing something else of the same name as canonical?  (I don't support that idea, but, still, it sounds like you may have let that already happen without realizing it.)

The other thing is, The Holiday Special was mentioned.  I rather doubt that crapfest would grace/sully a set finally showcasing the OOT in HD glory, but that doesn't mean the "special" (I say it that way because it is both not particularly stellar, yet also embodying the mentally handicapped connotation of the word) isn't being treated more favorably than it used to.  While not in great quality, the "special" has actually been made available for sale, with non-optional Rifftrax commentary directly through Rifftrax.com (trust me, you don't want to watch it without Rifftrax, no matter what you say about historical anything, you don't actually want to watch it that way).  A few years ago, such a thing would NEVER have been allowed to happen.  I'm not sure what extent and quality of a release The Holiday Special has in front of it, but the door isn't as firmly shut on it as it once was (but, dear God, don't let them dare put it out officially without at least optional Rifftrax in the future).

TMBTM said:

I don't even understand why someone would want to "de-canonize" the PT or the Clone Wars. It would just add more mess to the whole thing in the mind of the audience. It would look like they do not know what they're doing. They'd de-canonize some of the movies of the series to remove some concepts that some fans don't like so they could...what? It does not make any sens. Not only from a marketing point of view but also from a storytelling point of view. You can't tell the audience a tale, then, when you arrive to some chapters, sundenly say "wait, no, forget about those early chapters I told you before. What I really wanted to tell you is THIS." It would look so unprofessional... So bad. It would be WAY worse than keeping the PT the way they are and find good stories to tell anyway. THAT would look professional, and maybe working with some concepts that you don't like much can lead to some creativity.

 Not to give too much credence to this "de-canonize" line of thinking, but in all fairness, how is this not what Lucas did when he made the PT?  If something didn't jive with the OOT, he'd just throw in new dialog to the SE's to cover the differences, and continue on like nothing was wrong.  Well, everything he did since the mid-90's seemed unprofessional and lacking in creativity... so I guess you're onto something.

Yeah, it is more positive than not.  They acknowledge the difference between Star Wars versions and don't specifically say no such effort is going on, just the truthful statement that there is no re-release date (in short, they're not forcing whomever responded to tow a hostile, negative corporate line against the OOT).  And no, Fox would not be the right place to ask, as they would never spend the money to restore a property that will be handed off in a few years, at this point it is up to Disney/Lucasfilm to fit the bill for any new transfers and then tell Fox how high to jump.

I'd be all over a full scan of this poster, it is really fun and nostalgic.