yoda-sama

I didn’t mean to offend, despite what all Negative1 himself has done to upset the community, I didn’t support–and was not trying to promote–the idea of taking away credit from him. My suggestion was aimed purely at the project title itself of “Silver Screen Edition”, and not removing credit for such an important contributor. I thought that tweaking how it is referred to would help both with its acceptance on the spleen and distance it from the extreme notoriety at large and the infamy that followed shortly after. Additionally, I wasn’t sure what you, the former team, or the community would consider more respectful: modifying and releasing new things under an old name with an original member no longer associated, or to use a new name that doesn’t specifically trivialize the relevance of the original release which that person did have a say in. Anyway, it is your call and there is certainly no arguing against Negative1’s influence and contributions to the project, so you should be free to honor and give credit as you see most fitting. There’ll be no argument from me. Moving along.

TV’s Frink said:

Too bad. I was really hoping he was a jilted lover.

AS THE DEATH STAR TURNS

*AS THE MINI-DEATH STAR TURNS

Actually, I’m not 100% on when the towne32 version started taking precedence over Harmy’s V2.5, I had a copy of towne32’s early color correction, which he was basically just calling a color corrected V2.5, it was nice enough and Harmy was open to another take on the colors, though it was really just an encode of Harmy’s encode at that point; then next thing I know V2.7 was on the horizon with more GOUT despecialized scenes replaced with 35mm sources and apparently there was a V2.6 before that (possibly with some 35mm work, possibly even more honed colors than the color corrected V2.5, or maybe it was basically just the same as the CC’d V2.5 but officialized, I don’t really know the details on that), though V2.6 didn’t get an official announcement on Harmy’s SW project thread (this one) but the version number bump seemed to indicate there was agreement on towne32 progressing the project… I guess there were enough things known to need to be done on top of whatever was done to V2.6 that waiting for V2.7 for endorsement was known early enough in the V2.6 release cycle… Was V2.6 made using Harmy’s raw sources… was V2.7? Do we even know who we are anymore???

Anyway, congrats on hitting your 600th page of this thread, Harmy!

I agree that it may be as simple as needing to change the name of the project to keep from stepping on the toes of Negative1, on spleen and the like… And I honestly have never been a fan of the Silver Screen Edition naming (I dunno, it just didn’t describe the project clearly or directly enough). Anyone into the idea of selecting a new name, as a group?

Jar-Jar once thought as you do…

That’s a pretty cool and significant interview you’ve brought to our attention. Thank you. And, I can’t imagine what it must be like to be Harmy and have this kind of attention… It is really good he had the chance to explain the general piracy stance and to thank Disney/Lucasfilm at the end of the interview for their leniency.

RU.08 said:

Let’s wait until we hear from the members that worked on it. The only reason it annoys me is because I’d like us to build a stronger base with Spleen and Blu when it comes to 35mm - if we support them they support us.

Could someone PM me to explain what “Blu” is, in this context?

Williarob said:

The superior source being the Japanese pan & scan laserdisc released in 1991, which contains uncompressed digital stereo audio. Playing the mix through a home Dolby Pro-logic decoder authentically recreates the original 4-channel surround experience."

Just lucky I guess!

Yeah, I’ll have to agree with that, from the description it sounds like it might be a rather pleasant experience, looking forward to giving that Japanese stereo mix a try.

Even though there was some amount of surround audio for SW in 1977 (though, obviously not exactly the kind of surround sound that is standard today), I was mostly wondering about the DTS-HD MA 5.1 from a technical standpoint, since no, it wouldn’t be what was found on a 35mm print. At the same time, what about the Japanese LD sourced audio is authentic to 35mm? That is an honest question. Is it not the '85 home video sound mix? It looks like the LD came out in '91, so I think it is safe to assume it isn’t the '93 (with even more content changes [though truer to the original mix in most regards]). If it was one of the above, would hairy_hen’s stereo reconstruction not have been a better representation of 35mm sound? Really, I’m just wondering what mix we ended up with and what was the process behind choosing it.

Looking forward to grabbing this, don’t get me wrong. Huge thanks for all the work you’ve put into it.

One quick question about GOUT synced audio sources not used in this release. Besides considerations like file size, was the DTS-HD MA 5.1 track not used due to complications with the authoring process, particularly with seamless branching? I’ve been really wondering if it could be made to work, and it is a shame to see it not on here, so now I really want to know if it was even attempted and what the results were (and yes, I realize that was basically the same question twice). Thanks.

Also, if people do want to build in other audio, etc., it would be nice to have a tutorial / explanation of the authoring process you used for this menu’d and seamless branching beauty of a beast.

I don’t agree with Rey being Luke’s daughter, we should fix Luke.

… You mean like being startled by R2’s holo projector kicking on… like what made Luke fall backward? If he’d done it at any OTHER time, yes, it would not make sense… I always thought it worked well there. The only other opinion I’d venture is that his movement seems almost uncharacteristically smooth…

Heh… I honestly assume he needed to pee and was trying to get attention about it from the director…

BTW, I don’t see the problem… C3P0 like jumps down from a step… Please explain what I’m not seeing.

Also, again, there is no place for an inexperienced lunatic to go around “fixing” Harmy’s work. Be it making the whole film smaller and worse looking or making something that was slightly awkward into something inescapably jarring…

Maybe the way he says the things he is thinking out loud makes him more Ric Olie than Jar-Jar… who knows, but there’s something definitely Episode I about his behavior… Anyway, a break from that perplexing nonsense does sound good, thanks Dat_SW_Guy!

Congrats on finishing your project towne32! 😉

Double post reserved for future joke…

This can’t end well… Time to hide the younglings.

I don’t think my scale was about how bad something is (except for Ghostbusters (2016)), but about where it falls in acceptability. Heck, you could even say it is a scale of assness, that is a trailer of production stills would be less than half-assed, having nothing new at all would be far less than half-assed… though that would put a great trailer at full ass… so maybe swap that around… production stills are more than half-assed and Ghostbusters (2016) is full ass.

Well, I’ve finally visited the site, and hot damn, you guys undersold just how ugly it really is/was… Shit… that’s ugly.

Oh, sorry… **** that’s ugly.

Well, you could take the Trainspotting 2 teaser trailer that came out a week or so back, which had zero new footage, in fact it was intended purely to announce that they were going to start filming that day… So no, it wasn’t still images, but containing nothing at all from the new film has to be, in a way, worse than stills if you were judging trailers on a scale… (not that I have a beef with Trainspotting 2, looking forward to it, actually)

Teaser trailer scale:

_________no new footage/info at all__________stills_________pre vis__________looks bad_____looks okay ___
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Ghostbusters (2016)

Well, his jokes are almost all not funny… So, maybe he IS Jar-Jar… Actually, being Jar-Jar is probably a bannable offense.

You know, it is actually funny to think how all-encompassing playback programs (like VLC, Kodi, etc.) have so obscured the actual complexity of playing the contents of image files like ISOs. It used to be that images were predominantly used for burning physical media (largest benefit being consistency, in that it removed a lot of human error in the burning process) or you had to find a program to mount the image as a virtual drive and then generally still interact with it as if it was an actual disc (or whatever it was an image of). Fast forward a decade and commercial video player compliant content NOT in an image is considered the difficult method…

Just amazing… from a certain point of view.

3ABY brought this–dare I say–epic thread to my attention. I read through most of it in just a couple of nights, and much of it literally brought tears to my eyes from laughing so hard. You fucked with Chaz so hard at times, it was great… and I largely mean the subtle stuff, the tenses, pointing out the sexism, the corrections, the intentional typos by “girls” that he let slide, and so much more… Plus, the way he dealt with people, he was truly one of the worst suited admins ever, and I’m glad it seems like he didn’t try to continue after this. And you can’t feel bad for him, he brought it on himself by spamming us (Hell, just bothering to CHECK BACK in on his spamming would have been enough for him to figure it out, so he alone is guilty for letting it happen). It is a shame it happened so long ago, as this is something I would have loved to participate in. Oh well, maybe next time there’s a perfect storm like this…

Anyway, bravo guys… Thanks for archiving. I’ll keep circulating this tape.

odok76 said:

yoda-sama said:

Pretty sure I wrote something earlier… don’t contribute to the problem of us having to deal with complaints from people who get files like this and think the problems they encounter have anything to do with the creator-endorsed versions.

I think you’re being bit precious. I can’t see that many people downloading a 2gb version of an HD movie and then being so concerned about the quality that they would join this forum & then post a complaint.

Call me crazy, but it’s a free market. If people want it, let them download it.
Just do the courtesy of posting a decent .nfo and screenshots

Precious? Quite a compliment, even though you’ve never actually met me… I’ll take it.

And yes, I do realize there is a high quality, low file size segment not currently met by the sanctioned releases, what I’m saying is that by no means should that gap be filled by someone brand new to Handbrake and (stated himself at the top of this very page) thinks it is similar in function to TSMuxer… There are plenty of shitty encodes out there on torrent sites already, and those are done by people who know much, much more about reencoding than him, so I can only imagine how bad it would be (Hell… did he even remove the black bars? What if he didn’t and it is still in the 2GB range… it’d be EVEN WORSE than we’re already thinking…) Anyway, if a really talented encoder wanted to take a stab at a sanctioned mobile version, I think people here would be open to the idea. Just not this.

Also, we’ve already had people recently come to these forums because of the reencodes they got God knows where… Harmy bitched him out about the shitty quality of the screenshots he posted from it. I’m not being paranoid.

Dek Rollins said:

http://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/413614

Oh, I see; well played.