Oh no, don’t get me wrong, that’s overall pretty easy compared to patching, was just trying to figure out which way you were going with it. I like this plan.
Would that involve us using a patching program or are you talking about just wholly replacing specific files in the Blu-ray structure with new versions of those files?
I’m not even going to comment on that public relations disaster. For those of you who didn’t download 1.5 or 1.6 yet, I put together a few (low rez but still useful) comparison frames to give you an idea of what has changed…
Wow, very nice… I’ve really got to get home and grab this before the apparent inevitability happens.
I just hope I get home in time to clear off space and start the download before he gets spiteful on us… His abuse really needs to be dealt with.
Thank you very much for posting this. Is there any chance someone will offer an MKV with 5.1 audio muxed in?
Probably, but part of the point of releasing it this way is it isn’t hard to remux it on your own if it is something important to you. So, keep that in mind if, for some reason, a version like that doesn’t pop up.
I think I’ve become attached to the Super Grover thing because it sounds reasonably like Yoda. In different circumstances surrounding the fall, I think it would be great, but I agree it probably doesn’t fit with the style and audio effects you’re going with.
I agree that the music isn’t quite noticeable enough at this level. Also, I’ve kind of grown attached to the Super Grover yell idea, haha.
Edit: The effect look great, btw. I think you nailed what you were going for, and it didn’t cost an arm and a leg (not an Anakin pun), bravo.
OMG! It’s funny reading all these brutal comments and I’m thinking “There’s a whole different set of rules for Frink!?” You actually came right out and admitted it. This has become one of my least favorite communities. You all treat each other like crap, but especially new users. And I apologize for opening my mouth and continuing this in your thread Harmy… but that one just lit me up.
It is not that there is another set of rules for Frink, just that he’s an example of a person that is well established in the community (versus unknown, be that new user or a troll), and responds with sincerity when it really matters in addition to his extreme sarcasm, which we all have come to expect and understand. Dat_SW_Guy came in with newbish questions we genuinely tried to help with at first, and then he quickly devolved into self-admitted trolling with indecipherablely written “jokes” that no one but him even knew were supposed to be funny, if they even were supposed to be funny, in addition to riling people up by threatening to damage Harmy’s project by posting unapproved reencodes he was clearly not qualified to make. It quickly got to be a headache to even try to follow what he was saying, and every time he’d try to claim he was just an innocent new user, he’d immediately betray that and troll again. If that makes us react badly to him, I don’t see how that’s really surprising.
And maybe we’re a clique here, but we are open to letting in new people, as long as they give a damn about being part of our community.
Blurring the line, as you’ve been doing, between new user and troll is what mocks new users and erodes our willingness to help in general. Just hang out and chat with actual sentences, and leave the humor to Frink and the rest for a while till you see how things generally work here, and you might find that you can have a good time without pissing everyone off by confusing the Hell out of them.
The white bars are a fun thought/mistake, but the senate scene you put up just before looks so professional with the black bars it is probably best to go that route. Besides, to anyone other than us, it would come off as you not knowing how to control your effect if the bars are white.
I’m not sure what to say on when to do your girls’ voice effects, probably morphing to it as they rise up to the senate floor would be best (if the sounds were only during the a-ha visual effect during the senate fight, then I’d say push it forward to when the visual effect starts, but I’m pretty sure they do the vocal effects for everything in the scene, not just light sabers and force lightning; so it should stay scene specific). Though, honestly, I’m not even sure what the impetus is behind the whole idea of the vocal effects; it is cute and all, but I think hearing your thoughts on it or how the idea came up originally would help me get behind it.
And now that I hear it again, super grover’s falling yell would be an awesome addition.
I think there are enough Assholes in the movie already… I feel like I’m surrounded by Assholes.
Instead of “a long time ago in a galaxy ricdiculous by far…” you could extol the virtues of this episode having sequences filmed in Exciting XOvision an amazing new technology that lets you actually feel like you give a damn (if you wear the special goggles available in the foyer ONLY $99.99). Or a joke along those lines which is funny or something.
Or “Freaking eXciting vision”.
Here’s another option, the same thing as the last one but with a little color added back in (to try and pick up the lightsabers better):
I’m liking it.
What do you guys think of this one?
That’s pretty neat.
BTW, on the free trial videos, I liked the Hand Drawn one more… and I think worst case scenario the watermark would sort of add to the humor, like if it wasn’t already obvious enough that you’d messed with the video you have a gigantic watermark exclaiming that you’ve done some special "FX" to it.
But really, screw the software purchase, I think you’ll find something good enough. What you just posted is very promising, for instance.
Wait wait wait… We’re a couple months away from 3.0? Or ESB 2.5?
We don’t do timeframes here…
Williarob said:
Thank you! Found and fixed both of these.
To fix it, I’d think you’d have to have the proper frames on hand, meaning the problem was introduced down the line. So, what caused that? Was it a mistake of automated cleanup?
Lasz said:
around 01:10:00 there’s an audio glitch when CPO says “that isn’t very reassuring” instead of the word “that” there’s a tiny piece of audio score from probably a different part of the film.Presumably that is in the mono mix? The mono mix was missing a number of frames throughout the film. I did my best to patch the holes using the existing version of the mono mix, but I’m not as good at working with audio tracks as I am with video, so apologies for that.
Since it looks like you’ll be doing one last reencode and compiling the BD again, with all the “unknowns” about the included audio it might be a good time to consider hairy_hen’s thorough '77 stereo audio restoration. I agree his 5.1 mix would be out of scope (and I’d like to be clear I’m not asking for that) for a 35mm preservation, but I would encourage you to look at some of the options available, especially if there are odd issues cropping up in this laserdisc audio source you’ve chosen (beyond all the distortion, etc., issues hairy_hen already mentioned about this same source).
Williarob said:
or even that VCD version you’ve been secretly wanting.
Got a laugh out of me on that one.
Lol.
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Trying before I buy is certainly a smart move.
I wish they would offer individual plug in effects for like $5 each.
Like, if you wanted them all they would add up to more than the package deal price, but save you money if you only want a few things? I think that’s an agreeably friendly business model.
Is there any amount of trial period?
Yes but it outputs with a watermark.
Mostly just wondering if you’ve had a chance to try before buying, more so than hitting and running (which is, of course, acceptable, if not for damnable watermarks).
Is there any amount of trial period?
With all the time I’m going to end up spending on this I really am tempted to spend the $70 on the professional plug-in…but it just feels like such a waste of money.
That is, unless you think you’ll use it for more than just this one project… Whichever answer you come up with for that question, the easier it’ll be to justify or dismiss the purchase.
Wahoo! I found the solution to the subtitle problem: Convert the srt from 23.976fps to 24fps in Jubler, then use Lemony to create the BDN. Edit the XML to set the framerate back to 23.976 and import as non-drop. Then subs remain in sync to the end. Rinse and repeat for all languages. We’re back in business people!
Throw it in a pot, add some broth, a potato… baby you got a stew going!
Here’s another test. It’s a different scene because it’s the only one I have on my hard drive in HD at the moment. It’s SD followed immediately by HD, using the same settings/filters on each.
I think the SD portion lends to a niftier looking effect. And Swazzy may have a point about making the video purposely choppier.
On FE I was directed to this virtualdub plug-in:
http://www.compression.ru/video/cartoonizer/index_en.html
Here was the result on my scene:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otTvtA0matU
I tried two other settings as well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvE5sFW4tQs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK9_YvHpeT0
The first probably works the best but I’m not sure it works all the way. There are parts where the detail is almost completely lost. It looks a little better on my pc than on youtube due to compression, but I’m still not sure.
I rather like 1, for the simple fact that the effect you’re going for is immediately obvious, where as the other attempts could be mistaken for a very odd video glitch (at least that was something I felt about it in the back of my mind the first time I watched “Ep3 Revenge of the RidiculousnessUpdated3 32”, until the music really kicked in and drove home the point). 1 is basically the over the top ridiculous take on it, which I think is the point of the endeavor in general. Oh, and color the lightsabers, whichever method you go with, that seemed to work really well in “Updated3 32”.