What was the point of the chase anyway? Seems like it would be the first thing to be cut out in editing.
to catch them.
I like your angle on this.
56°?
Hypotenuse
Stop being a bunch of glasses.
blow me
JEDIT: it’s a glass joke
This is a family friendly site, dahmage.
What was the point of the chase anyway? Seems like it would be the first thing to be cut out in editing.
THIS ISN’T THE GEOME
DO, OR DO NOTTHREAD
Stop trying to be acute, dahmage.
As always, I’m perfectly right.
Right angle, that is.
Some additional thoughts on the movie:
I’ve heard this view that Kylo Ren is using typical abuser tactics to try to lure Rey into his reach. He tells her that nobody else cares about her but him; that her parents were poor nobodies who threw her on Jakku without care for her. The truth actually lies somewhere in between. Yes, Rey’s parents were nobody special, but they were paupers unable to retrieve her after, say, a kidnapping.
This movie really harps on the “true from a certain point of view” Ben says in ROTJ. Both Ren and Rey are right about each other, but only from a certain point of view. Luke’s and Ren’s interpretations of Kylo’s turn were both right from a certain point of view, but it is only at the end that we get the full truth. You can even see the theme again in the point I described above.
People complain about how much TLJ subverted TFA, but they fail to realize that’s the point of a middle movie; a sequel. The best sequels turn the previous movie on its head and leaves it spinning. Let’s use Empire, the rare sequel that’s better than its predecessor, as a case for this theory. Star Wars starts on a desert planet; Empire starts on an ice planet. Luke is ascendent at the end of SW; he’s despondent at the end of Empire. Ben lied about Luke’s parents. ESB’s full of subversion. That’s what makes it a great movie.
I think one of the reasons I really liked this film is that it introduced new ideas and interpretations on a great many things, something I don’t think TFA really did. TLJ’s flat-out creativity and boldness made me love it. It chose not to play it safe. I can’t wait to re-watch it soon. As one person said earlier in the thread, it is truly a film that has balls.
Also, the horse race was totally prequel-esque and completely unnecessary.
I’m just starting to read back through this thread, and I totally agree with this:
Mark just knocked it out of the park with this. I sincerely hope he gets an Oscar nomination. It would be a first for a Star Wars film?
I waited 34 years to see Luke back in action, and it was worth the wait.
Priebus demonstrated no ability to keep Trump from talking to anyone who wanted his ear. The president-elect enjoyed being courted. On December 14, a high-level delegation from Silicon Valley came to Trump Tower to meet him. Later that afternoon, according to a source privy to details of the conversation, Trump called Rupert Murdoch, who asked him how the meeting had gone.
“Oh, great, just great,” said Trump. “These guys really need my help. Obama was not very favorable to them, too much regulation. This is really an opportunity for me to help them.”
“Donald,” said Murdoch, “for eight years these guys had Obama in their pocket. They practically ran the administration. They don’t need your help.”
“Take this H-1B visa issue. They really need these H-1B visas.”
Murdoch suggested that taking a liberal approach to H-1B visas, which open America’s doors to select immigrants, might be hard to square with his promises to build a wall and close the borders. But Trump seemed unconcerned, assuring Murdoch, “We’ll figure it out.”
“What a f***ing idiot,” said Murdoch, shrugging, as he got off the phone.
Nothing contributed to the chaos and dysfunction of the White House as much as Trump’s own behavior. The big deal of being president was just not apparent to him. Most victorious candidates, arriving in the White House from ordinary political life, could not help but be reminded of their transformed circumstances by their sudden elevation to a mansion with palacelike servants and security, a plane at constant readiness, and downstairs a retinue of courtiers and advisers. But this wasn’t that different from Trump’s former life in Trump Tower, which was actually more commodious and to his taste than the White House.
Trump, in fact, found the White House to be vexing and even a little scary. He retreated to his own bedroom — the first time since the Kennedy White House that a presidential couple had maintained separate rooms. In the first days, he ordered two television screens in addition to the one already there, and a lock on the door, precipitating a brief standoff with the Secret Service, who insisted they have access to the room. He reprimanded the housekeeping staff for picking up his shirt from the floor: “If my shirt is on the floor, it’s because I want it on the floor.” Then he imposed a set of new rules: Nobody touch anything, especially not his toothbrush. (He had a longtime fear of being poisoned, one reason why he liked to eat at McDonald’s — nobody knew he was coming and the food was safely premade.) Also, he would let housekeeping know when he wanted his sheets done, and he would strip his own bed.
If he was not having his 6:30 dinner with Steve Bannon, then, more to his liking, he was in bed by that time with a cheeseburger, watching his three screens and making phone calls — the phone was his true contact point with the world — to a small group of friends, who charted his rising and falling levels of agitation through the evening and then compared notes with one another.
Just because a group has been dicking around for 1,000 generations doesn’t mean their view is the be all end all.
Yes, but that entire presumption is arrogance IMO. We’re speaking about a group who have maintained peace and justice for a 1,000 generations. If that’s dicking around, I think I have to come out of the closet.
"The Force is what gives the Jedi its power."
not “The Force is the Jedi’s power.”As stated by one of those dicks.
Always missing the nuance. Just because the Jedi are good doesn’t mean the Jedi are always right. Just because the Jedi aren’t always right doesn’t mean the Jedi are always wrong.
When Luke says that saying the light belongs to the Jedi is vanity, he’s basically right, but he’s definitely up his own ass about it, butting in with his ideology when Rey is just trying to feel the force. It is a little arrogant of him, and it’s supposed to feel that way.
We shouldn’t blindly accept that the Jedi can do no wrong just because they’ve been around for 1,000 generations (especially when the PT shows they almost caused their own extinction). But just because we should have a critical eye with the Jedi doesn’t mean we should dismiss them outright, and the movie doesn’t do that.
“I will not be the last Jedi.” Don’t forget.
The force does not belong to the Jedi. It never has. The light does not belong to the Jedi, is never has and it never should. But that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t believe that the Jedi won’t fight for the light as long as they can.
I missed the nuance, because there was none in your OP, my friend. “1,000 generations of dicking around” is not a nuanced statement. Nuanced posts invite nuanced answers. Posts filled with hyperboles don’t.
Dicking around does not mean being dicks. At least I don’t use it that way. (to me it’s basically a synonym for “hanging,” surely I’m not the only one who uses it that way?) It wasn’t meant to be a hyperbolic statement.
Just to prove I’m not crazy…
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dicking around&defid=323310I prefer 6, part 2: Using Apple.
dahmage.
The argument of “Twitter is responsible for letting Trump start nuclear war!” seems unconvincing to me. If Twitter has never existed, Trump would have other means to star nuclear war.
I think I had a dream involving this site. I don’t remember it.
I’m reasonably sure the FO has more than one of those guns.
I’ll be the odd one out and admit that CGI Tarkin didn’t annoy me past the first scene.
What the heck is a binary load lifter?
Lots of people saying Twitter should suspend Trump over this.
I’m not so convinced.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/948355557022420992
North Korean Leader Kim Jong Un just stated that the “Nuclear Button is on his desk at all times.” Will someone from his depleted and food starved regime please inform him that I too have a Nuclear Button, but it is a much bigger & more powerful one than his, and my Button works!
I went in expecting to like it the same as I like The Force Awakens but I was blown away. I honestly don’t have any problems with the film. I’m glad I feel that way and I can’t wait to see it again.
I am RIGHT with you and Cobb! This film blew me away. It had my legs shaking. Of course I have some issues. Too much comedy and Canto Bight could be cut down. You could also get rid of Leia’s superman moment. But besides that? Well what you have is a Star Wars masterpiece. Now begins my full review. Feel free to poke any holes through it if you disagree:
This film is so incredible in so many ways and I don’t know where to start so I will just start moving through some of the great things.
Firstly, Luke’s fate was one of the most beautiful and inspiring scenes in Star Wars history. This film instantly feels so much richer and more satisfying than both Force Awakens and Rogue One.
Rey and Kylo’s relationship was absolutely perfect. An amazing moral drama between the two that had my eyes glued to the screen. Luke and Yoda’s scene might be the most heartwarming scene in the whole film. Luke’s training is full of interesting moments (sometimes too much humor), and an amazing depiction of how the Force connects everything. When Rey feels things around her and we get her describing the beauty and chaos with the accompanied visuals, it was just visceral.
The multiple perspectives and descriptions of the Kylo/Luke flashback work perfectly. I felt so sorry for Luke and the guilt he felt. His dialogue about it being a “fleeting moment” and only then realizing his great mistake was just wonderful. I also actually started to see why Kylo would have that as the moment that sets him crazy and loose.
The relationship between Rey and Ben Solo was beautiful. Very saddening towards the end yet still emotionally rewarding. Their force bond was a genius and inventive idea from Rian Johnson. Their complex moral dilemma of Rey seeing the desire for good in Kylo makes sense and I totally felt it to be true. And Kylo’s use of Rey’s parentage against her and his persuasion was just great.
Luke at the end was a true Jedi. Using the force for the ultimate defense, using Ben Solo’s hate against him, saving his friends, and lighting hope for the galaxy. Then he finally finds his peace with a binary sunset. The same sunset he gazed upon when he once desired to be apart of something greater than himself.
“The Rebellion is reborn today…The War is not over…And I will NOT be the Last Jedi…”
Come at me folks. I LOVED this film.
Sorry to quote a three-week old post but this is pretty much how I felt about the film, explained in a much more concise way.
Y’all watch a lot of movies.
An important question considering what one of the main issues is with the PT. Does anyone think the acting in the ST has been bad?
No.
So, everybody has forgotten or didn’t see the blink and you’ll miss it shot of those ancient Jedi books stashed away on the Falcon? Rey may not have a living trainer, but she’s got the instruction manuals.
I bet they read like stereo instructions.
Page turners, they were not.
- Kylo Ren dies/is turned (probably dies not to be called RotJ rehash).
I think there’s more for the case that Ben dies than what you said. He’s already had a couple of shots at redemption but refused them both.
I thought that ship had sailed when he killed Snoke and denied Rey’s request.
That’s what I said.
I’m sorry for the redundancy then.
Sorry; just a little grumpy.
- Kylo Ren dies/is turned (probably dies not to be called RotJ rehash).
I think there’s more for the case that Ben dies than what you said. He’s already had a couple of shots at redemption but refused them both.
I thought that ship had sailed when he killed Snoke and denied Rey’s request.
That’s what I said.
- Kylo Ren dies/is turned (probably dies not to be called RotJ rehash).
I think there’s more for the case that Ben dies than what you said. He’s already had a couple of shots at redemption but refused them both.
Literally the whole point of Luke showing up and making a scene is inspiring hope across the galaxy.
“The Rebellion is reborn today.”
The Resistance won’t be able to fit on the Falcon for long. This is made pretty clear in the film.
Yeah, but that all depends how the FO will rule the galaxy. It’s not two major organisations backed by various systems like in the OT. In ANH many systems were rebellung against the Empire, because it was oppressing the galaxy. Now it’s hundreds of thousands of troops versus fifty people. If the FO are smart, there won’t be a Resistance ever.
Luke didn’t just inspire little kids with brooms. He inspired everyone who sympathizes with the Resistance’s plight, including, as is implied, their allies in the Outer Rim.
Sympathy that will only last if the FO are an oppressive force. The Resistance have no allies. Their socalled allies in the outer rim didn’t answer.
If the FO set up a benevolent form of government, the Resistance will never rise again, and quickly fade into obscurity. That is as decisive a victory as victories can be. It’s completely up to the FO to drop the ball.
Not technically wrong about how the FO can win, but that’s probably not how it’s going to go lol.
They’re probably going to continue being an evil empire.
I suspect they will. 😃
If the FO continues to act as it does, then some sort of rebellion will win. All oppressive regimes eventually end. Oppression works in the short term but it will eventually lose.
I agree, but it’s an odd way to end the second part of a trilogy. It closely mirrors the end of the PT, where the bad guys win, and the good guys are decimated, and retreat in hopes to fight again one day, which may be decades away.
Isn’t that kind of how ESB ends? I mean, sure, the Resistance in TLJ is in far worse shape than the Rebellion ever was, but as Dom said, they still have the spark that could light the fire — the legend of Luke.