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Chewtobacca said:

captainsolo said: I still need to see [Dances with Wolves]. Can anybody suggest theatrical or Director's cut for a first viewing?

The theatrical cut is the director's preferred cut.  Costner told Entertainment Weekly that he did not work on the long version.  I would recommend the UK BD of the theatrical.

Huh. 

I could have sworn that I heard/read that he had worked on it.  I briefly read the link you provided- does he infact say that the short version (both were theatrical) was his favourite, or just that he didn't work on the longer version?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dances_with_Wolves#Alternate_versions

One year after original theatrical release of Dances with Wolves, a 4-hour version of the film opened at select theaters in London. This longer cut was dubbed Dances with Wolves: The Special Edition, and it restored nearly an hour's worth of scenes that had been removed to keep the original film's running time under 3 hours.

In a letter to British film reviewers, director Kevin Costner and producer Jim Wilson addressed their reasons for presenting a longer version of the film:^[27]

Upon the release of the four-hour Dances With Wolves, the question naturally arises: why? Why add another hour to a film that by most standards pushes the time limit of conventional movie making? We opted to produce an extended version of Dances With Wolves for several reasons. The 52 additional minutes that represent this "new" version were difficult to cut in the first place...the opportunity to introduce them to audiences is compelling.

We have received countless letters from people worldwide asking when or if a sequel would be made, so it seemed like a logical step to enhance our film with existing footage. Virtually every character is richer, from the teamster, Timmons, to the tribal chief, Ten Bears.

Making an extended version is by no means to imply that the original Dances With Wolves was unfinished or incomplete; rather, it creates an opportunity for those who fell in love with the characters and the spectacle of the film to experience more of both. We hope you enjoy it.

The genesis of the 4-hour version of the film was further explained in an article for Entertainment Weekly that appeared only 10 months after the premiere of the original film:

While the small screen has come to serve as a second chance for filmmakers who can't seem to let their babies go, Kevin Costner and his producing partner, Jim Wilson, hope that their newly completed version will hit theater screens first:^[28]

"I spent seven months working on it," Wilson says of the expanded Wolves. He's quick to defend the Oscar-winning version as "the best picture we had in us at the time," yet Wilson also says he's "ecstatic" over the recut. "It's a brand-new picture," he insists. "There's now more of a relationship between Kevin and Stands With a Fist, more with the wolf, more with the Indians — stuff that's integral all through the story."

Of course, exhibitors may not want a longer version of an already widely seen movie, but Wilson remains optimistic. "I don't think the time is now," he acknowledges, "but ideally, there is a point at which it would come out with an intermission, booked into the very best venues in America." A premiere in the form of a two-night network miniseries (à la The Godfather Saga) is also a possibility. For now, however, the four-hour Wolves remains a private dancer.

This Special Edition was eventually broadcast in 1993 for the American network television premiere at ABC. For the DVD release, the Special Edition was dubbed an Extended Cut. For Blu-ray, the same cut was renamed Director's Cut.

Director Kevin Costner would later claim that he did not work on the creation of the 4-hour cut at all.

Johnny Ringo said:

xhonzi said:

Amazon has BioShock 1 and 2 Steam keys on sale in a bundle for $5.

Would you kindly stop talking about Bioshock on sale!

Xbox marketplace has all of the BioShock 2 DLC on sale through today.  Minerva's Den is $5, which should be a nobrainer for Xbox based BioShock fans.  I also really liked the Protector Trials, which frankly surprised me because I don't usually play much of the 'arena/trial' content in these kind of games.

greenpenguino said:

I might be alone in this, but I want to play a game that takes place in the GTA universe but is from the point of view of the police. Sort of like a Serpico type thing where the system starts out corrupt and gradually is sorted out by the end of the game. Also would be cool to play as a female police officer (who isn't objectified and sexualised to the nth degree) to try and balance things in contrast to the male dominated criminal GTA games. There could of course be things the officer could do in their off time, like visit bars and stuff. As well as acting as a negotiator in hostage situations or talking with suicidal people.

Perhaps not exactly what you're asking for- but have you played Crakdown 1 or 2 and/or LA Noire?

EDIT: Er... sorry, Tobar, didn't see you there.

Tyrphanax said:

As much as I love Windows, I've been seriously considering Linux for awhile now. The only thing keeping me from making the jump is the lack of games software... but Steam may be solving that soon... We shall see.

Fixed?

Seriously, I need to run software.  Linux doesn't run software.

Tyrphanax said:

Dammit. Now I'm gonna want to buy all the Black Series figures.

I had ignored this urge to become a weird Collector type for so long...

You want this, don't you?

Take your Star Wars Black Series Figure!  Buy two and leave one mint-in-the-box!  THEN your journey to weird collector type will be complete!

Muwahaahahahahaa!

doubleKO said:

xhonzi said:

doubleKO said:

Ahem!

 My bad.  I didn't know that thread existed.  Still, this is a little different, right?

You posted a lot in that thread for someone oblivious to its existence.

Drat.

He didn't say no.  I think it is him.

Firefly 2?

xhonzi said:

Hey, everybody.  Rules Meister 'tobacca is here.  No more fun!  Just rule following! 

Hey Chewtobacca, you edited your post.  Now mine doesn't make any sense.  :(

And TV Shows... that's a paddlin'.

doubleKO said:

Ahem!

 My bad.  I didn't know that thread existed.  Still, this is a little different, right?

doubleKO said:

Ryan McAvoy said:

cocoon: the return of the kingdom of heaven's gateway way back to the future world war z

That's 11 movies for you. Beat that

Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King and I Am Legend of Sleepy Hollow Manhattan Murder Mystery Team America: World Police Story 2 Days in the Valley of the Dolls

 Is that a Hollow Man reference?  Ew...

Hey, everybody.  Rules Meister 'tobacca is here.  No more fun!  Just rule following! 

Yeah!

Chewtobacca said:

Haha!  But I think dies --> die breaks xhonzi's rules, xhonzi.

I considered

robot chicken little big man on fire in the sky captain and the world of tomorrow never dies irae

but Robot Chicken without the subtitle probably doesn't count.

Screw xhonzi!  His rules suck.

Sling Blade Running Man on Fire with Fire Down Below (The Planet of the Apes)

I know that last one doesn't work... but it should.

Ryan McAvoy said:

That's 11 movies for you. Beat that

 Well, that escalated quickly.

Moth3r said:

Grumpy Old Men in Black Hawk Down and Out in Beverley Hills Cop Land of the Dead Man Walking Tall

Grumpy Old Men in Black Hawk Down and Out in Beverley Hills Cop Land of the Dead Man Walking Tall Tale

Rules- string together movie titles to form the longest chain of words and titles you can.

i.e.: Atlantis: The Lost Empire Strikes Back to the Future.

3 movies, 9 words.

Not okay: Driv-ing Ms. Daisy Angry.

Go!

i09/Rinzler said:

3) George Lucas told Lawrence Kasdan that anyone can use the Force

It's just like doing yoga, Lucas told Kasdan during a marathon story conference. Or karate. "If you want to take the time to do it, you can do it." It just takes practice and concentration. Also, Lucas clarified that a "Jedi Master" like Yoda is different from a Jedi Knight," because "he's a teacher, not a real Jedi." And Yoda is like a Guru, who "doesn't go out and fight anybody." And Yoda wouldn't be any good in a fight, against someone like Darth Vader. Kasdan responded: "I understand what you're saying, but I can't believe it; I am in shock."

What happened to this guy, Jorge Lucas?

It's not real... yet.  It was in a photoshop contest.  Before about a dozen people put it on my facebook page.

TV's Frink said:

xhonzi said:

I'd go with the longer one.  The "short" one is already long, so you can't avoid length.  But everything in the long cut fits together nicely.

That's what she said.

Go on...

Johnny Ringo said:

xhonzi said:

Amazon has BioShock 1 and 2 Steam keys on sale in a bundle for $5.

 

Would you kindly stop talking about Bioshock on sale!

A man chooses to buy Bioshock on sale.

A slave... also buys Bioshock on sale.

Wolfman said:

Very articulate. Here's Luke Bespin from wave 3 which shows a lot of the movable parts.

Wave 1 (now) Luke Skywalker X-Wing Pilot, Sandtrooper, R2-D2, Darth Maul.

It's a trap!

Luke's sabre isn't as blue as the pictures would make you think.  The one I saw at Target had a very seagreen sabre- like the so-called "training sabre" that is totally an artisitc plot-driven change to ANH and not just a colour timing goof, because they don't make goofs.