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#389436
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Avatar and Politics in general (mild spoilers)
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Yes, I realize that we already had an Avatar thread and a Politics thread... but I didn't want to derail (as if this were possible) either one.

So, I had heard various reports of the amount of pro-liberal content in Avatar.  I mentioned a quote earlier in the Avatar and 3D thread that Cameron claimed he was trying to step lightly around the political pitfalls.

Having seen the movie this morning... he's flat out lying.  There are parts of this movie that are so oriented as to specifically evoke political controversy surrounding President George W. Bush and the current conflict in Middle East.

But let me take a step back.  I really wanted to like this movie, and I came pretty close.  I was aware of the hype and how distorted hype has effected me in the past and prevented me from enjoying an otherwise good movie.  I'm also a 3D nut, and have sat through- nay, enjoyed! some terrible movies just because they were in 3D.  I went in with guarded expectations and I felt the movie really won me over.  Until the 3rd act started.

It's really summed up in a couple lines from the characters.  Perhaps someone at fanedit will produce a "Tolerable for Conservatives or anyone else not drinking the Green Kool-Aid" edit.  Shouldn't be too hard to cut 5 lines of dialogue maybe.

Here's the dialogue:
The evil human's attack on the peaceful Na'vi is referred to as "some sort of 'shock and awe' tactic".  Obviously an referrence to the US and Ally's tactics in the Middle East.

The evil Colonel of the Marines tells the human soldiers that the Na'vi are about to attack them and that they must match "terror for terror."

Jake, disgusted that his fellow humans are not being patient enough with the Na'vi, throws a book on their culture down and says, "this is what humans do!  They find someone living on top of something they want, and they make them an enemy so they can take it!"  Seems a little too ripe of the theories that Bush staged 9-11 (or at least allowed it to happen) so that we could go to war and make oil prices.... go up?

And finally:
Jake tells the "Gaia" like spirit that is the God of the Na'vi people... that there is no green left on Earth and that the people there killed their mother and that he needs to stop them from doing the same thing here.

There's also one more shot of when the evil humans are scrambling to their fighters that shows this incredible dense brown smog hanging over their compound.  And there are about 28 smoke stacks billowing in the background.  Just in case you didn't get it.

What did I miss?

I think it's really a shame.  Technically, it's all there.  The movie is well acted, the CG is superb, I enjoyed the 3D quite a bit.  The music is moving, the action is exciting, and the characters are compelling.  If Cameron could have simply avoided using it as soapbox to bash George W. Bush (the election of which caused Cameron to cancel his application for US citizenship) it would have been totally great.

I admire you, my liberal friends, for you probably enjoyed the movie with little exception.

Now if Global Warming weren't a total crock.

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#389347
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The Ric Olie Observation Thread
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TV's Frink said:

ABC said:

Bravo Captain, your last wish may have been impregnated with enough Force. Looks like it worked !

I will not be silenced!  Bring it on, delusional "Captain" man!

xhonzi said:

Frink... be prepared to lose track of the next three days.

www.homestarrunner.com

and specifically

http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail43.html

Well that was weird.  Extremely funny, but weird.

 Tell me you didn't only watch one.

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#389215
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Star Wars on Blu in 2011?
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zombie84 said:

LFL has a lot more product than it seems they do:

<snip>

-Captain Eo

<snip> 

 You're right, I had forgotten about their involvement with EO!!!  Where's the petition to get this release on Blu Ray?  I would gladly give up my pirated 2D version...

I'm registering OriginalEO.com right now.  See you on the petition and on the boards!

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#389039
Topic
Zombie Games?
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Black Mesa does look awesome.  Here's to hoping it comes out in my lifetime...

I'm still waiting on the Jedi Academy -> Dark Forces mod.  I played through the first half or so that they released and thoroughly enjoyed it... but where's the 2nd half?!?!?

http://darkforces.jediknight.net/

UPDATE: At least someone was working on it as recently as a month ago...