xhonzi

Justin Hartley as Cay Qel-Droma:

and

Neal McDonnaugh

As... somebody.  Not sure who, but I think he has a good look.

vote_for_palpatine said:

Mara Jade - Farrah Forke

(second from left if you don't know)

 I see your Mara Jade, and I raise you Eva Green:

Hmmmm.....!

So... why healthcare?  Why has this become the one thing all people must have, even if it means that the cost of it must be hoisted upon the taxpayers?  Why isn't it postal service?  Or cars?  Or clothes?  OR FOOD?

OR HOUSES?

YOU're AN IDOIT!  THAT is where IT'S AT!

Thanks, Frink... for killing my threads softly with typos.

Or

29. A band that has a drummer and drums but has misplaced the pillow that they put in their kickdrum.

Challenge:

Ulic & Cay Qel Droma
Exar Kun
Nomi Sunrider

You had better watch out for the MTE Union.

Okay, so that's all of them so far.  Assuming we don't get any more entries, LexX won by a landslide with TheBoost and Moth3r in a hotly contested (yet distant) 2nd place.  none and I will be back in the theatre trying to figure out where we went wrong.  VFP... well... you owe me 5.

So... now that we've showered LexX with accolades, I can say that his is the least interesting because it's so accurate.  For the rest of you: Why do you think your answers were off?  Could you have done better given more time and thought?  Or, like me, do you perceive the action scenes to actually be longer than they are and perceive the dialogue scenes to be shorter?  Do you forget that the 2nd highest billed actor isn't introduced or mentioned until 46 minutes into the film?  Did you think certain scenes were longer, or did you just assume there were more scenes between the points I picked?

Other observations?  What did you learn?

Moth3r

Not bad!

none

This is about how I did...  the point of this was to learn how our perceptions are off of reality.  So hopefully you look at this and learn something from it.

LexX

Very impressive!  Almost so impressive I would have to accuse you of cheating!  But I won't.

Surely, you must tell us how you did it?

TheBoost

I've started scoring and I'm about to start posting the results, so avoid looking below if you're trying to avoid seeing the answers.

TV's Frink said:

xhonzi said:

So, if I really cared about any of my friends... the last thing I'd do is sit there and not do what I could to "convert" them to Christ.  There's a decent analogy in a burning building.  If you notice that your appartment is on fire, it's your moral responsibility to tell as many people in your building about it and save everyone you can.  Maybe you pull the fire alarm.  Maybe you knock on doors as you collect your family and run down the hall... but how would you feel if your neighbors were burned alive and you didn't take the chance to warn them, even though you had the opportunity to?

I'm going to take the opposing view and extend this analogy a little bit.  Let's say I'm in my apartment and you knock on my door to tell me about the fire.  I tell you that there might be a fire, but there might not be, and I'm not convinced either way.  I appreciate your concern, but I'm going to stay in my apartment and see how it all plays out.

Now keep in mind, I've been in this apartment for a long time, and a large number of people have knocked on my door to tell me about the fire.  Some of them, like you, are filled with genuine concern for my well-being, and I appreciate their concern.  But despite that, I'm getting a little tired of everyone trying to convince me there really is a fire.  In fact, I want to hang a sign outside my door that says, "Heard about the fire, and I appreciate your concern, but please don't try to convince me it's a real fire.  I've made my choice and please respect that.  Thank you."

And then there are the people who have knocked on my door who have no interest in my personal well-being.  They have a variety of different motivations, but I can assure you they aren't trying to just save me from a fire.  Furthermore, they are extremely insulting when I tell them I'm not sure the fire is real, and if I tell them I believe in a different fire, they are likely to insult me even more. While I have doubts the fire really exists, the people I'm descended from/related to absolutely do not believe in the fire, or at least the version of the fire you are describing, and somehow this is extremely offensive to some of the people in the apartment building.

So keep in mind that when you knock on my door with the best of intentions, it's not your fault that I've been badgered about this fire countless times since it broke out.  But I've been badgered just the same, and I really have no interest in the fire or hearing about the fire.

Summary: Fire?  Meh.  It doesn't bother me in the slightest that you're trying to get out of the building, and I appreciate your concern.  But I'm good.

I think this is where the respect comes in.  You appreciate my concern.  I appreciate your eFreedom to do whatever you want.  I could physically pick you up and carry you out of the building... but as soon I put you down- I'm sure you'll go right back in, so what is the point?

I know people that share the same disinterest in discussion religion (or fires) and I've learned that no good is done in trying to convince them otherwise.

Warbler said:

xhonzi said:

Warbler said:

<are they in Hell?>

There are Christian religions that believe these people will be accounted for.  If your religion doesn't and this is a concern for you, perhaps it's time to do a little comparative religion shopping?

this is a little different that going out and shopping for new clothes.  I have been going to the same church literally all my life.  I was baptized there.   So was my brother.  I grew up.   My niece is going to Sunday school there.  My grandmother was a member there until she died.     My brother  and his wife got married there.    My family is there.   I have known multiple members of the church all my life.    It would be difficult if not impossible for me to leave my church.   

Instead of telling me to leave my church, how about you answer the questions I posed above? 

I didn't tell you to leave your Church.  Let me rephrase: If it concerns you that your Church doesn't address all of your Spiritual needs, one way or another, but you have strong social reasons to stay with that Church... then you need to decide which is most important to you, and then make a hard decision. 

That might sound like I'm still saying you should leave your Church, but I'm really not.  I'm saying you need to decide how important your concerns are.  Then you decide whether you're going to find a new Church, or if you're going to stay where you are.

As for the answer to your question, I will give as good an answer as I can in a public forum: Some people believe they are in Hell.  Others don't.  I, for one, don't believe they are in Hell.  How about you?

TheBoost said:

Be forewarned, "OffTopic" is a very silly place.

Welcome aboard.

 Worse than Camelot, even.

doubleofive said:

I need that book.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0848715500

$75-140 new, $2.50 used.  Am I missing something?

 Get the used one!

So...

In last season's finale, we see Jacob and MIB talking in the shadow of the statue... it's morning and they're looking at a boat offshore that Jacob claims to have brought to the island.

In this episode, the Black Rock crashes in the island when 100 ft (?) waves mercilessly drag it there, crashing through the statue and marooning the ship pretty far inland.

Was this later that day?  Or was the boat in "The Incident" not the Black Rock?  MIB's hair is completely different, but it was a week or so later when we saw him so maybe he had it cut?

005:

Good call on the bottle and the island explosion.  I think the alt stuff is when Jacob didn't touch their lives.  Especially in the case of Ford/Sawyer.  If Jacob wasn't there to hand him a pen, then he never crystalized his hatred for Cooper into that letter that drove him to be a conman himself.  I think the alt stuff looks better than the "real stuff" we've been seeing for years, but in the end it will be worse.  Perhaps the evil is out, like you said.

My other thought is that The Numbers are the The Numbers only because they are next to The Names.  And in the Valenzetti Eq, you're supposed to change The Numbers (or The People) to prevent the End of the World.  If Jacob was unable (due to the incident) to touch or change the People, then their own lives would be happier... but they will end when the world ends.  In the reality where Jacob does influence them, their lives kind of suck- but it's necessary to keep the world from ending.

Not bad.  Not as blue as Angel would have gone, I'm sure...  ;)

You should try to see if you can replace his hair with a blue black military cut.

How about Kyle Katarn?  The guy they got to play him in Jedi Knight: DF II wasn't too bad...

And... call me crazy... but Sam Witwer

would be a good match for Starkiller:

EyeShotFirst said:

I constantly quote the emperor's lines from ROTJ. I like taking the remote control and putting it on a channel that nobody likes only to say:

"You want this....don't you."

 I say this to my kids all of the time.  Especially when they're really little.  It works great with pacifiers.  You hold it out in front of their face until they lock eyes on it:

ME: You want this... don't you?
HIM: ...
ME: Take your baby binkey!  Strike me down with it!  THEN!  Your journey to the Dark Side will be complete!
HIM: ...
ME: ...
HIM: .....  <WWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH>
ME: (looking offscreen) Honey?!  He wants you!

Eh.  It's a living.

*whew*!  Still, after Frink pointed it out, it hit a little close to home.  I do have that 3 foot long Falcon, after all...

Here's another one:

When speaking to other Star Wars fans, you beat Return of the Jedi up oneside and down the other.  When speaking to non Star Wars fans (especially Star Trek fans (grr!)) you'll defend it with your life.

Warbler said:

As for the belief that all those that don't worship Christ will go to hell,  I admit I do have a problem it that I've never been able to resolve.   What about all the people whom had no chance to hear the word?  what about children that die before they even have a chance to understand?  Are they all in hell?   Hitler was a Christian, a catholic I think(although obviously not a good one),   Gandhi was not a Christian.   Is Hitler in heaven and Gandhi in hell?   What about all the people who lived and died before Christ was even born?   Are they in hell? Are the 6 Million Jewish people who died in the Holocaust in hell?   All the aborted babies whom are supposedly full fledged humans with souls, are they hell?  These are the things I can't accept.   It has caused a sort of schism between myself and my religion and my church.   I don't know what else to say.  

There are Christian religions that believe these people will be accounted for.  If your religion doesn't and this is a concern for you, perhaps it's time to do a little comparative religion shopping?