xhonzi

Aint nothin' near Dove Creek.  :)

Clearly there's a reference that went over my head.

Frink peeled potatoes in my kitchen.

True story.

^Someone kept saying that it would work like that.  That you couldn't judge episodes I & II until you saw III and it was all in context, or something like that.

Anchorhead said:

Plus, I was recently in Colorado on business for a while and wasn't really able to get back into it like I thought I would be able to.

 You were in Colorado and didn't stop by?  I had potatoes that needed peeling.  :(

It lost me at the farting.

CP3S said:

xhonzi said:

every title I buy now probably just means 1 more on the shelf that I never actually play.  :(

Even Bioshock??? WHAt???

IGNORED!!!

I'm not sure if you can read this, what with the IGNORing and all...  But I will definitely pick up Infinite, maybe in about 6 months or so, and it will mean that I will never actually play Splinter Cell 5, Shadow of the Colossus, or, heaven forbid, Fallout Vegas.  Every title I buy now means one on the shelf won't get played... but it probably won't be that title, if you follow.

I'll probably wait to see what the next Xbox looks like, but I may just divert my funds into a triumphant return/embarassed retreat to PC gaming.  I'm sure Infinite will look x2 as good on a $1000 PC as my 8.5 year old 360.  If I decide to go PC again, I'll pick up Infinite for that.

I played [CoO and GoS] a little, they felt a lot like the PS2 games, only with really awful graphics in comparison and with a bit more of a claustrophobic feel to them.

Really awful in comparison to the PS2 games?  I had heard that they were at least on par, but I haven't booted them up, so I don't know.

Dead Island was a game I loved all the way to the end, and was disappointed when it was over. I remember thinking it was fantastic, but a little too short. My c-op partner and I played the campaign through 2 and a half times to get to get our levels up.

That's encouraging!  I tend to trust your taste in games, so hopefully we will at least feel gratified that we played through to the end once!

I'm playing the Asian girl who seems to have developed a real glass jaw of late.  I recently started using a long handled axe which has helped keep the undead at bay, but I have resigned myself to constant deaths just being part of the game.

CP3S said:

Really looking forward to Bioshock: Infinite (and I'm so glad they decided to include reversible box art) and The Last of Us. I think those are going to be my two launch day purchases for the year.

I have no business buying new games with all of these old games piling up.  But I have been tempted to pre-order Infinite.  I don't think it's going to happen, though. 

I'm relatively confident I'm in for a new console one way or another this fall.  I probably have enough current gen stuff to last for 2 years, so every title I buy now probably just means 1 more on the shelf that I never actually play.  :(

And I'd still really like to play Borderlands 2 and Far Cry 3 eventually.

I'm thinking about catching up on the God of War series while I wait for Bioshock. I have still never beaten God of War 2, and have yet to play 3, but I have them all, including the origins collection.

I've been waiting for them to announce BL2:GOTY, but so far no dice.  They just announced a disc of DLC, but not all of it which means there's probably another disc of DLC coming before the GOTY edition.

I picked up the 5 game God of War series on Black Friday and have played through 1 and 2.  Pretty decent games except for the endings... The difficulty really ramps up at the end, which overall I'd say is more frustrating than anything else.  I had to go straight into 3 once I finished 2, but it's a little bit of a generational shock.  I was so used to the PS2 stylings of 1 & 2, that 3 was a little off-putting.  COO and GOS will probably feel more like the PS2 games, and I think that's a good thing.

Dead Island seems to have worn on too long in its tooth.  My co-op friend and I have both expressed interest in just putting it down unfinished.  We got out to the Jungle, which seemed to breath a little more life into it, but I'm not sure it will last.  It says we're about 80% done, so I think we'll slog through to the end from this point.  Hopefully we're glad we did by the end.

I'm a little more than half-through Red Dead... and I think I'm going to shelve it for a little bit.  I just finished Mexico, and am a little tired of riding shotgun every mission.  I think if I take a small break, it'll be more enjoyable to come back to.

Next... probably AC: Revelations.  They're about to announce AC4, so I guess I better start catching up.  :)

Tobar said:

Just in case anyone was still wondering...Black Mesa is out now. =P

Thanks.  I think you told me in another thread, but I still haven't played it.  Maybe on the Oculus Rift...

Also-
Red Dead Redemption
God of War
Lego Pirates of the Caribbean

And this playlist has a good collection of DTV videos:

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9B00368C39B0D64B

Too bad the quality is so poor on some of them.  :(

1. So... what's become of Ric at this point in time?

2. I think Grievous should have a comicly large mustache, and maybe a top hat.  They don't have to be well done.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Disney-Music-Videos-DTV-Full-Set-of-Five-VHS-w-Love-Songs-60s-Afternoon-/300842116749?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item460b96668d

Wow, check all of these out!

[705] MARTHA & THE VANDELLAS: "Dancing in the Street", LITTLE RICHARD: "Tutti Frutti", TOMMY ROE: "Dizzy", THE DIAMONDS: "Little Darlin'", STEVIE WONDER: "Up Tight-Everything's All Right", THE SUPREMES: "You Keep Me Hangin' On", ELVIS PRESLEY: "Stuck On You", STEVIE WONDER: "I Was Made to Love Her", DANNY AND THE JUNIORS: "At The Hop", SHEB WOOLEY: "The Purple People Eater", JOHNNY BURNETTE: "Dreamin'", LITTLE RICHARD: "Long Tall Sally", JAN AND DEAN: "Surf City", ELVIS PRESLEY: "Hound Dog", THE FOUR TOPS: "Reach Out - I"ll Be There", THE DOVELLS: "You Can't Sit Down", THE BEACH BOYS: "Dance, Dance, Dance".

[706] HALL & OATES: "Kiss On My List", JIMMY CLIFF: "Wonderful World, Beautiful People", RICHARD THOMPSON: "Two Left Feet", THE JACKSON FIVE: "Dancing Machine", GLADYS KNIGHT AND THE PIPS: "Friendship Train", THE DOOBIE BROTHERS: "It Keeps You Runnin'", THE SUPREMES: "Stop! In the Name of Love!", MARVIN GAYE AND TAMMI TERRELL: "Ain't No Mountain High Enough", STEVIE WONDER: "Signed, Sealed and Delivered", JIMMY CLIFF: "You Can Get It If You Really Want", GLADYS KNIGHT AND THE PIPS: "I Heard It Through the Grapevine", HALL & OATES: "Private Eyes", BURNING SENSATIONS: "Belly of the Whale".

[707] THE SUPREMES: "Baby Love", SPIKE JONES: "Blue Danube", LOUIS PRIMA and KEELY SMITH: "That Old Black Magic", TENNESSEE ERNIE FORD: "Sixteen Tons", BARRETT STRONG: "Money", BURL IVES: "Lavender Blue (Dilly Dilly)", MARVIN GAYE: "Can I Get A Witness", ANNETTE FUNICELLO: "Pineapple Princess", SMOKEY ROBINSON AND THE MIRACLES: "Mickey's Monkey", THE CADETS: "Stranded in the Jungle", STEVIE WONDER: "For Once In My Life", ANNETTE FUNICELLO: "Tall Paul", LENA HORNE: "Stormy Weather", SMOKEY ROBINSON: "You Really Got A Hold On Me", SPIKE JONES: "Holiday For Strings", THE BEACH BOYS: "When I Grow Up (To Be A Man)".

[720] JUICE NEWTON: "Love's Been a Little Bit Hard on Me", THE TEMPTATIONS: "Just My Imagination", ELVIS PRESLEY: "All Shook Up", THE MARVELETTES: "Don't Mess With Bill", STEVIE WONDER: "My Cherie Amour", GENE CHANDLER: "Duke of Earl", THE DRIFTERS: "Some Kind of Wonderful", MARY WELLS: "Two Lovers", THE MARVELETTES: "Too Many Fish in the Sea", DEE CLARK: "Raindrops", THE TEMPTATIONS: "Ain't Too Proud to Beg", OTIS REDDING: "Try a Little Tenderness", YES: "Owner of a Lonely Heart", SISTER SLEDGE: "We Are Family".

[722] MAMAS & PAPAS: "California Dreamin'", JOEY DEE & THE STARLITERS: "Peppermint Twist", THE BEACH BOYS: "Catch a Wave", THE SHIRELLES: "Mama Said", MAMAS & PAPAS: "Go Where You Wanna Go", WILSON PICKETT: "Mustang Sally", THE BEACH BOYS: "I Get Around", STEVIE WONDER: "Castles in the Sand", MAMAS & PAPAS: "I Saw Her Again Last Night", ARETHA FRANKLIN: "Think", THE SUPREMES: "Nothing But Heartaches", THE BEACH BOYS: "Be True to Your School", WILSON PICKETT: "Funky Broadway", MAMAS & PAPAS: "Dedicated to the One I Love", MARVIN GAYE & KIM WESTON: "It Takes Two", STEVIE WONDER: "Hey Harmonica Man", THE BEACH BOYS: "California Girls".

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Disneys-Golden-Oldies-DTV-Music-LASERDISC-LD-OOP-/250684599462?pt=US_Laserdisc&hash=item3a5df76ca6

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pop-Rock-DTV-Walt-Disney-Laserdisc-Discount-Shipping-/130859697188?pt=US_Laserdisc&hash=item1e77d88424

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ROCK-RHYTHM-AND-BLUES-Laserdisc-LD-GOOD-CONDITION-VERY-RARE-WALT-DISNEY-DTV-/190803692242?pt=US_Laserdisc&hash=item2c6cc94ad2

I've never seen the Pop/Rock or the Rhythm Blues ones.  I just heard about them a couple of years ago whilst looking for GoldenOldies.

zombie84 said:

xhonzi said:

zombie84 said:

There is nothing wrong about not paying companies when you buy used shit. That's like giving Ikea a dollar everytime you turn on the lamp you bought at Fred's garage sale 6 years ago. Or giving Honda a dollar every time you bought that used Civic off your friend in 2004. Does any of that make sense? Of course not. If I go to Goodwill and get a Hungry Hungry Hippos board game I don't owe Parker Brothers anything.

It's an odd obsession that VG publishers have developed.  I mostly agree with you.  But there are a few major differences:

A well kept game disc is sold as 'used' but is virtually indistinguishable from a new product, unlike cars, homes, or food.  A closer comparison would be to books, movies, music, and other media, etc...  Which, of course, have endured the 2nd hand market for decades.  

Yes, but that applies to anything.

I would agree that it applies to lots of things, had hardly anything and everything.

But still there are two major differences... cost for games is signficantly higher than those other ones, and the rate at which the medium develops. 

Not any more than something like a couch.

My comment reflected the difference in sales price betwixt other media (specifically music CDs, video discs, and books) and games.  I said that was what they were most similar to, but yet there were these differences.

At any rate- I agree with you.  It is in no way dishonest to buy used games.  However, it is not dishonest for a company to incentivize new game purchases/disincentivize used game purchases through one time use codes.  However, there may be some (myself included) who find that practice distasteful and won't participate.

AS C3PX said, gaming is a great hobby, but it's one I can find myself living without if the market place changes significantly.

Here's my new cell: [redacted]

zombie84 said:

There is nothing wrong about not paying companies when you buy used shit. That's like giving Ikea a dollar everytime you turn on the lamp you bought at Fred's garage sale 6 years ago. Or giving Honda a dollar every time you bought that used Civic off your friend in 2004. Does any of that make sense? Of course not. If I go to Goodwill and get a Hungry Hungry Hippos board game I don't owe Parker Brothers anything.

It's an odd obsession that VG publishers have developed.  I mostly agree with you.  But there are a few major differences:

A well kept game disc is sold as 'used' but is virtually indistinguishable from a new product, unlike cars, homes, or food.  A closer comparison would be to books, movies, music, and other media, etc...  Which, of course, have endured the 2nd hand market for decades.  

But still there are two major differences... cost for games is signficantly higher than those other ones, and the rate at which the medium develops. 

As you said elsewhere, not playing older games is like not watching 7 year old movies or 10 year old books... except that it's not.  My brand new BD player will play any BD or DVD (and even CDs!) I have in the house, regardless of how old the content is.  My bookshelf holds any book, parchment, scroll or papyra that I've ever procurred and my one and only pair of eyes are capable of reading any of it (or at least looking at the pictures).  Currently, playing retro games (or even current games) requires quite a variety of unreplaceable hardware and each black box only plays a small percentage of my total game collection. 

Therefore, there is less incentive to keep old games around since the relative effort of playing old games is much higher than that of consuming other older media.  A lot of people have old movies and old books that they've already consumed, but fancy the idea that they will consume them again and will need ready access to them.  I think gamers, on average, value their already-played games less and are less likely to keep a large stock of played games... though it sounds like you and I are exceptions to that generality.

Since gaming is an expensive hobby, and the value of played games sharply declines after release, the gamer is incentivized to sell the game as soon as he/she finishes it to recoup maximum value.  Other gamers, you and me again, are content to eat the scraps off their table and, sometimes indirectly, buy these games from them, empowering them to pay full price for their next game and starting the cycle anew.

Which is the factor that the decriers of used game sales seldom acknowledge.  The purchase of used games puts money in the pockets of the people buying the new games.  Without which, they would buy fewer new games.  It's the same as automobiles- if a one couldn't sell or trade-in their old vehicle, how many would be able to buy a new vehicle?  Generally speaking, the money that trades hands with the buying and selling of used games (or cars) stays in the game (or car) market.  Sure Gamestop is often making a percentage as the middle man, but how different are they than other middlemen?  Without them, how well would games sell at all?

All of that being said, I think the publishers have a right to try to monetize used game sales.  I think I have an equal right to refuse to do business with them.

I think if Sony or MS actually tried to implement such a feature it would be halted by the supreme court.

I can't see the Supreme Court getting involved.  It's effectively the same thing that's been going on with PC games (nay PC Software) for the past decade or more.  Every disc comes with a 'license key' without which the disc is more or less useless.  The license is nontransferable, and used software sales are all but a thing of the past.  Of course, so much software is sold directly online anyways, it's kind of a moot point by now.

Video game companies are rolling in money--

Except for all of the ones that recently closed.  :(

[the cost of Xbox Live is] the sole reason I never once recommended people to buy an Xbox 360 when you could be playing the same--and more often than not better--games online with the PS3 for free.

C3PX already made this comment, but I agree with his assessment.  As an owner of both systems, I gladly pay $3 a month for the service of Xbox live compared to what I get for free on PSN.

Personally, I don't have any problem with not buying their stuff, ... and the games I enjoy the most aren't even being made any more anyway.

There's something kind of ironic about the proximity of these statements. 

The DVD isn't terribly awesome.  If someone had the time and the passion, a new menu would be great and chapter stops at the start of each of the numbers would be a good addition. 

In my dreams, I'd get HQ MP3s of each of the songs, and then find the best version of the videos for each number and recreate them frame by frame.  But I can admit that it will never happen.  Not by me, anyways.

Anyways...

Now that it's up, did anyone else want links?  MattMahdi, did you ever get a copy?  Frink, as something of a Golden Oldie yourself?

I'm pretty much a rapidshare idiot, so I don't know if you'll hit a usage cap related to my free account whilst downloading these or not. 

TV's Frink said:

MattMahdi said:

That's not creepy at ALL.

(And please don't post mine.)

First I peel your potatoes, then I post your cell number.

Actually, now that I think about it, I've changed my number since then.  At least I think so.  Do you have 720.273.6853?  'Cause that's not it anymore.  

(If you have 720.9XX.XXXX, don't post it, because that's still current.  :)  )

In other news, the 10th file is uploading.  Time to start clearing out my PM box (avoiding the which is why I decided to rapidshare this in the first place) and start sending out links.

Alright... I don't know if I'm doing this right, so maybe Frink can call me on my cell and tell me what a loser I am...

I chunked the VIDEO_TS directory (with 7-zip, because it chunks) into about 9/10 250MB chunks and am uploading them (slowly) to rapidshare.  I'll PM the links once the uploads are done.

Is that about right?

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/02/sonys-yoshida-playstation-4-wont-block-used-games/

According to this article at least, there won't be any widespread used/borrowed/rented games ban on the PS4.

Woop!

Hey,

As you might of read, I have this in all of its direct-from-vhs-to-dvd glory.  I never picked a good spot to upload it... so I'll try to find that tonight.  If that doesn't pan out, I'll go delete some of my precious PMs and you can send me your address.

Tobar said:

Rushmore (1998)

I remembered watching part of this film years ago and not particularly liking it. Now having watched it, I thought it was okay. Gotta love Bill Murray.

 My son is named Rushmore.

TV's Frink said:

xhonzi said:

Talking to other people

That's a paddlin'

Looking at other people

That's a paddlin'

Lookin' out the window

Oh, you better believe that's a paddlin'

Oh, you...

I'm IGNORing him.

Keanu Reeves seems to be a pretty good guy.  No link ATM, but I recall he bought a bunch of Harleys for his Matrix stunt team and didn't stick around to collect 'thank yous'.

TheBoost said:

I recently played a little "Batman- Arkham City." Awesome gameplay, but for whatever reason the violence, sexuality, and language were all maxed out far beyond what you'd expect from any aspect of the Batman franchise. 

I want to agree with you... but have you seen the Batman comics recently?  Or the Catwoman ones, anyways?  The arkham games really tarted up Harley Quinn, but it seems to be a phase that DC Bat comics are going through right now.

I think part of it is to prove they're not for kids.

Warbler said:

I don't care how good the sound and graphics get,

 I care.