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#230029
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Quit Whining
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/230029/action/topic#230029
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This...thing...is obviously a plant from TF.N trying to get banned so he can run it back to the folks over there: "They are so intolerant over there! They refused to discuss and instead just called me names."

Speaking of TF.N, I am happy to report I've been placed on a temporary ban there. I can't wait to find out why.

If I may go off-topic for a bit (assuming this thread has one), I much prefer the crowd here, but I enjoy the back-and-forth over at TF.N. Posting here is good, but it's basically a case of preaching to the choir. I need to lock horns with the stupid sometimes.
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#228418
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Another Form Of Protest?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/228418/action/topic#228418
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Originally posted by: Darth Richard
But won't GL find out about the returns and then think that no one wants the OOT??



Well of course, the whole point of protest is to call attention to something wrong. I happen to think that GL is convinced no one wants the OOT anyway, so no protest is really going to affect him. Maybe it will turn some heads at LucasFilm - people who'd have more pull over him than the fans do.

No form of protest is without its drawbacks. This one at least lets you make a point and keep your money.
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#228415
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Another Form Of Protest?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/228415/action/topic#228415
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On another thread, I had the privilege of coming across a great idea by a poster by the name of ESHBG. This may be a more effective form of protest than the "mail the disks" idea:

(in the style of Mon Mothma) ESHBG, please:

I was thinking about something: couldn't we all just buy them to push the numbers up, but leave them sealed and keep the receipt? After the reports come in, just return them, as you will be well within the 30-day window most retailers have in their return policy. I know it is not fair to the retailers, it isn't their fault and they will be caught in the middle, but it may also force the retailers to question any new SW releases from here on out, so George will get it from both the fans AND the retailers in years to come...

This is a great idea in that we don't actually spend the money. A lot of us didn't want to spend the money on a substandard release, but we wanted to show good consumer response to (hopefully) influence GL.

I think I'm going to do it this way. Thanks again, ESHBG.
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#228413
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The Ultimate Catch 22
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/228413/action/topic#228413
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Originally posted by: Mike O
Originally posted by: vote_for_palpatine
I wouldn't even say we want the trilogy in the best possible way. Just 2006 industry standard.


I would want it in the best possible way. It deserves that, and as we have seen, anything but that means Lucas will slack off. I've mentioned that this is a catch 22 time and time again, but I firmly believe that this isn't the last we'll see of the OOT on DVD. We're not that powerless. After all the OOT is coming out, even if it is a substandard release. We're gaining ground. We've borken through the first line. Let not give up now.


I'm sorry, I should have given context.

Since GL is clear that the SE is his SW, then in that context I don't want the best possible way. I wouldn't want him to compromise himself to any great extent. A transfer worthy of any 2006 release would be fine by me. If Lucas wanted to go all-out on this, that would be the ideal outcome; but giving us a 2006-quality DVD release would at least be meeting us halfway. This release doesn't meet us half of halfway - more like 10%.

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#228261
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No explanation necessary (but we got one anyway)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/228261/action/topic#228261
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One of the things that we complain about so very often in regard to SE and the PT is the overkill of explanation:

"The Sith have a Rule of Two."

"Obi-Wan was once instructed by Yoda. Qui-Gon was his Master, but all younglings are taught by Yoda."

"The Clonetroopers were cloned by Jango Fett, who raised an unaltered clone names Boba as his son"

"The more midichlorians a Jedi has, the more Force-power he is capable of"

"You see, Anakin died just before he became Darth Vader, so that's why he is younger as a Force ghost than Obi-Wan or Yoda."

"This is my apprentice, Darth Maul. Follow him, the apprentice called Darth Maul, for he is my apprentice. His name is Darth Maul, by the way."

Lucas is so convinced of our collective idiocy, isn't he? You know, not everything in the OUT was explained to a T. And that's just fine! We can fill in the blanks, as long as what we just saw is plausible.
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#228167
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first viewing of the 2006 OOT dvds
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/228167/action/topic#228167
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Well, the Original, Unaltered Trilogy is getting abused. No question about it. But I'm not going to let Lucas' petty crap ruin my fandom. Those movies grew far beyond him and the SE footage was a pathetic attempt to reclaim them as entirely his. Why doesn't he just remake all three movies with himself playing every part and hire a bunch of goons to go door to door and destroy every last copy of the OUT?
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#228091
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What did the Prequel Trilogy need?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/228091/action/topic#228091
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Understand that while I much prefer the OT, I can watch (and enjoy to an extent) the PT. I’m probably not alone in thinking that there were elements missing from the PT which would have made it better.

Here’s a small list:

An angry, ill-tempered Darth Maul. For a young Sith apprentice, he sure was composed and serene. Why wouldn’t he be bubbling cauldron of anger?

Episode I - Anakin at 19-20 years old. As millions of fans have observed many times.

Anakin sparring with Obi-Wan. Lucas loves the obvious foreshadowing - why not this?

Anything else?

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#228058
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New director what do you think ?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/228058/action/topic#228058
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Of course, another director, totally trusted and permitted to call his own game, would have helped in a lot of ways. Then again, that director (insert name here) possibly would have gotten some things wrong Lucas actually managed to get right.

There are larger problem with the PT - bad dialogue, an unclear and poorly researched story, overdoses of effects, pandering to certain demographics. How can the most skilled director possibly rescue a patient so horribly ill?

No, in a very literal sense, George Lucas was the best choice to direct the PT such as it is.
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#227733
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20 years ago, would anyone believe...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/227733/action/topic#227733
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...that a director could con Ian McDiarmid into pulling silly faces

...that Jedi and Sith (Mace's arresting forces and Darth Maul) could be killed, during saber combat, in the stupidest ways possible. Maul just stood and watched, and the arresting Jedi just seemed to wait to get slashed

...that Darth Vader would "milk the giant cow" yelling "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"

...Elan Sleazebaggano. Seriously. Somebody thought this was a good idea

..."the best star pilot in the galaxy" won a battle through the dumbest of dumb luck

..."Turn to the dark side." "No!" (beat) "Okay, I will". This is the true story of what happened to Darth Vader.

...after 16 years, the Yoda puppet looked like it had Down's syndrome.

...there are more lightsaber colors than Jedi robe colors

...Darth Vader hates sand

...Again, I must point out the utter ridiculousness of the name Elan Sleazebaggano

...people in the bar in Coruscant were watching a game of Cyberball.

more to come...
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#226715
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Fan Edits for Dummies
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/226715/action/topic#226715
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Yes, I'll admit to being a Dummy if we can get a ground-floor explanation of how to enter into the world of fan edits.

The other threads I see here are undoubtedly useful, but it seems, from my untrained eye, a bit like teaching someone how to do complex slam dunks when that person hasn't ever played basketball.

What sort of hardware would the aspiring editor need to get started down this road?

Thanks in advance!
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#225575
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"The Fandom Edit" contest
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/225575/action/topic#225575
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I'm glad you all enjoyed it.

I don't know what to make of it, but I can no longer find the story on TheSpoof.com. Am I paranoid, or is this Lucas at his most insecure? Here's the story I had posted there:



Star Wars.com “Fan Edit Contest” Produces Winner

SKYWALKER RANCH - On Thursday afternoon, a beaming Rick McCallum, executive producer of George Lucas’ three signature films, Star Wars Episodes 1-3, held a press conference to announce the winner of the Star Wars.com “Fandom Edit Contest”.

“After carefully reviewing some three dozen entries, George [Lucas] and I personally selected the winner. And it comes to us from...Brittany Miller of Novato, California! Congratulations, Brittany!”

Miller, a precocious youth of fifteen, was on hand as a guest of LucasFilm Inc. and soon ascended the dias for her reactions to winning the contest.

“Oh my God!” exclaimed the euphoric Brittany, “This is soooo wizard! I can’t believe it!”

Miller went on in a similar vein for about ten more minutes before McCallum returned to the podium, joining the winner.

“Obviously, you guys [the assembled media] don’t have time to watch all of Brittany’s Star Wars - Episode IV: Children of Anakin, but we thought we’d take you through the highlights of what grabbed George’s [Lucas] - uh, our attention.”

McCallum then produced a remote control and used it to reach the beginning of Brittany’s Episode IV.

“Brittany inserted a new screen crawl here which, we thought, preserved the flavor the Original Prequel Trilogy. Observe,” said McCallum.

The new crawl read as follows:


Episode IV
CHILDREN OF ANAKIN

OMG! There is civil war everywhere. The Rebel Alliance and Galactic Empire
are locked in a struggle to control the galaxy. There are heroes on both sides.

During a battle, the Rebels managed to steal the original Geonosian plans for
the Imperial DEATH STAR, an armored battle station with enough firepower
to destroy a planet in a single blast, with an awesome expanding ring of fire.
It is the kind of weapon which provides a decisive advantage to the evil heroes.

Pursued by the Empire in her father’s ship, Princess Leia is in possession of
the plans. Can the heroes on her side keep the plans from the heroes on the other?


A misty-eyed McCallum continued: “Next, Brittany provided more catharsis when she clarified George’s rough cut of this scene.”

The scene, as described by Brittany’s revised screenplay:


LUKE trudges out of the homestead, kicking the sand in frustration as the suns set. OWEN LARS has just told him he is stuck on TATTOOINE for another year. LUKE is sure that he is doomed to a life of farming.
As “Jedi Rocks” plays softly, LUKE looks out into the setting suns. On the face of each sun is a “ghosted” face of ANAKIN SKYWALKER on the left and PADME SKYWALKER on the right. In the space between is the “ghosted” face of WATTO.



The assembled press had to wait a minute or two as an emotional McCallum composed himself. He finally continued, “George and I had a real enthusiasm for this.”

We again refer to Brittany’s revised screenplay.


HAN: “Over my dead body.”

GREEDO: “Ukle nyumaa. Chesko po khuta klees ke tank ho, ya oska!

HAN: “Wait a minute, Greedo, don’t shoot!”

[GREEDO shoots and misses from point blank range]

HAN: “Greedo, stop! Let’s talk about this!”

[GREEDO shoots and misses again]

HAN: “This is cold-blooded violence, Greedo!”

[GREEDO shoots and misses again]

HAN: “This is the wrong message to send to Rodian children!”

[GREEDO shoots and misses. At the same time, a nearby EEOPIE farts. The laser blast redirects as a result of the lingering vapor and it hits GREEDO square in the chest]

HAN: “Yippee!”


Beaming, McCallum exclaimed to a blushing Brittany, “At that point, George [Lucas] said to me, ‘It’s as if she can read my mind!’ For my part, I thought it was fabuloso!!”

The press conference continued with footage of an exciting new lightaber battle by Obi-Wan and Vader, a six-hour long Battle of Yavin, and a victory celebration featuring Boss Nass, Senator Palpatine, and Elan Sleazebaggano.

For winning the contest, Brittany wins a job at LucasFilm, when she turns eighteen, for the position of Second Assistant Yes Man.