valinkrai

Ryan McAvoy said:

Yes I love my Blu-Rays.

But I think there's one more better format to go before I'm truely happy though. Next generation you aren't gonna be able to even see the pixes or compression without a magnifying glass on a regular big TV and that's good enough for me. Because only a tiny tiny percentage of people are going to have giant TVs big enough to detect any increase in quality beyond that.

I hope you're right. I'm a bit worried if another physical media format can be sustained in this age of ever decreasing reliance on physical media. I guess there's probably an enthusiast market if not, though the prices might be prohibitive.

The only thing I'm concerned about color wise is Geonosis. It's so memorably red that I feel like the more brown color would be jarring. It might work better in context, but I'm a bit worried. All the other color stuff I could be shown and probably not immediately notice the color differences.

vacuum said:

i'll take the OT in dvd quality.

I died a little inside, and I don't even desperately want the OUT. Don't settle man. Fans deserve Blu-ray minimum, and a Ultra-HD prepared scan ideally.

CP3S said:

valinkrai said:

CP3S said:

You're cool. Sorry I jumped on you like that. 

It's okay. I know how easily it is for PC gamers to come off as extremely arrogant. It's really hard to avoid from the perspective of a PC gamer.

The thing PC gamers don't get is, just about anyone who is smart enough to play games already knows the advantages of PC gaming. It isn't some closely guarded secret they need to go out into the world and evangelize about. There are advantages and disadvantages to both PC and consoles, and from there it just has to do with personal factors.

I get the impression PC gamers genuinely think they are doing the world a great service by announcing how much better PC gaming is and how poor of an experience console gaming is.

I hear about the expense of a gaming PC far too often for that to be true. People getting excited about the Xbox One when the reality is for 500 dollars you could build a better PC and not have to pay 5 dollars a month. Literally the only relevant factor in the decision if you indeed realize the advantages of PC gaming is exclusives. Which admittedly, will probably get me to eventually get a WiiU and PS4. Obviously, this is from the perspective of someone interested in the next generation of gaming. For casual players interested in current, it might be cheaper to get a 360 than build a rig like mine, using a 9800 card or something. I don't know.

doubleofive said:

I play PC games, but I'd rather play a game designed to work on my system rather than trying to upgrade my system to play a game.

This definitely makes me happy about next gen consoles/PC. x86 architecture everywhere. Except WiiU. Porting should be easier, since it's all the same on the system level. 

skyjedi2005 said:

It has to be in 1080P 24fps  and on BD.  Or get the hell out.

I want to get a vision of the originaltrilogy.com forums in the horrible alternate world where the OUT gets released in a frame rate other than 24fps. Though my friend and I have discussed how interesting it would be to have vector based interpolation meta-data on video.

skyjedi2005 said:

There is no guarantee its not going to be another John Carter, or Lone Ranger.

Of course there's a guarantee. It's a new Star Wars movies. Even Phantom Menace 3D, hated by people, a rerelease, only in 3D in most places  made 100 million. A brand new Star Wars movie? No way that's not doing well.

 There is literally no chance it will not be a success as a single film unless they give this a budget unparalleled in movie history. The only scenario where this works out badly for Disney is if the movie bombs on expectations on par or worse than TPM. Which I don't think it will. Disney knows they can't mess up the movie without pissing off Star Wars fans. That kills the good word of mouth. It will stunt the growth of future Star Wars movies, and they need that initial burst of goodwill towards them if they want a yearly Star Wars film franchise to work.

Of course there's a guarantee. It's a new Star Wars movies. Even Phantom Menace 3D, hated by people, a rerelease, only in 3D in most places  made 100 million. A brand new Star Wars movie? No way that's not doing well.

CP3S said:

You're cool. Sorry I jumped on you like that. 

It's okay. I know how easily it is for PC gamers to come off as extremely arrogant. It's really hard to avoid from the perspective of a PC gamer. I don't have a decent PC honestly. It's about as good as a current gen console, though I hope to fix that soon. Ironically enough, Star Wars: Battlefront is probably why I'm a PC gamer, though inevitably due to EA having control of it, Battlefront 3/Reboot will almost certainly not have mods. :( Debating whether I want to get it if it indeed doesn't. Probably will, because I've spent too many E3's desperately hoping for Battlefront III teaser to not get it.

CP3S said:

valinkrai said:

Ah. Your first mistake was getting the Xbox version.

Ah, yes, I love it when some douche thinks he is doing me a service by telling me that I am gaming on inferior equipment because I use consoles instead of a PC.

It's more that Bethesda games are inherently better experiences on the PC. I wouldn't say the same comment about games like Mass Effect or Arkham City, which while certainly great on the PC, aren't really getting any real advantages worth of feeling sorry for people who play them off the PC, like not being mega buggy in relative since, or lacking mod support or in the case of a save corrupting, being completely and utterly unable to recover it. Just as I would surely admit that playing Darksiders on the consoles was a much better experience than the PC. Because it totally was. I can certainly understand some people not caring enough about gaming to invest in a PC, though PC gaming is far cheaper in reality what with GPU's being cheap and the prime gaming component, Steam sales and such. Not to mention being able to Alt-tab and come to OT.com check the forums, then go back to a game. Anyway, I'm sorry if I came across as rude, that was not my intention.

CP3S said:

 

What? Half-Life 2 is one of my all time favorite games, I couldn't stop playing it. How do you quit before the end?

 

Got bored and lost in the vehicle area. Got lost again later, so I quit for a bit.

Xbox version using a USB drive for a save device, I was switching back and forth between TV's a lot, so keeping them on a USB drive worked well. But then the Xbox told me the drive wasn't formatted. No problem, that happens every now and then when using a flash drive on Xbox, just got to pop it in the computer, copy the Xbox saves off, reformatted it, load them back on. But this time there was no data to be found anywhere, no recoverable data, nothing. I tried several different methods, before finally giving up.

Ah. Your first mistake was getting the Xbox version.

Been playing heavily modded New Vegas. 13 GB of mods if my counting method (Selecting all non-vanilla ESPs and BSA's in the folder, along with folders). Mega fun. About 60 hours in. Chose to side with NCR after a bit of deliberation. Much more enjoyable than my first playthrough, and I have to say I like it better than Fallout 3 in a lot of ways, though it's really to early in the playthrough to say if I like it better.

Took a brief break to play Last Of Us a week ago, that was quite interesting, scarring deaths there. I avoided dieing as much as possible because of how graphic it was. 

Still have a unfinished Half-Life 2 game going, and Deus Ex: Human Revolution and Bioshock are sitting around waiting for me to play.

CP3S said:

Skyrim - Really got into it for a while, loved it. I was right at the end of the main storyline with over forty hours of play time and my game save got corrupted. Was over a year ago, restarted recently, but it is kind of hard to get back into without thinking of how cool my other character was and how much time I already invested in the game. I feel like I am spending hours doing stuff I already did before.

How come you couldn't recover a uncorrupted save? Did you not have multiple saves? Xbox version?

Jaitea said:

Official announcement:

http://starwars.com/news/star-wars-blu-ray-dvd-combo-packs-coming-october-8.html

Time to cash in on the 'SD-DVD only' market out there, I still am more hopeful that the OUT will come out in a few years.....perhaps the OT was being prepared for the now cancelled 3D transfer....would they have announced that the OUT was being scanned at a high resolution, not likely.

Now that George has retired and with the current attitude shown towards his tinkering of the OT, the cancelling of The Clone Wars, the franchise moving into overdrive with a more OT style 'Rebels' cartoon, perhaps the live-action series being picked up by Disney, spin-off films (with hopefully OT characters) & the new ST.....its clear to see that Disney has jettisoned the lame and knows the strength in its purchase......and what started it all?....Star Wars 

As it currently sits, it is in poor quality with embarrassing SE additions that anyone with a bit of sense cannot bear to watch, prefering to watch Adywan's or Harmy's versions......Disney will convince Fox to re-release the Classic versions (how much control George still has in that decision no-one knows)

J

I think Disney is wise enough to realize getting the theatrical versions of the OT out there is not only essentially printing money, but also buying goodwill from fans. Short of Lucas putting something in the contract preventing it, I think it's happening.

Ryan McAvoy said:

Has anybody considered that JJ might lead off the new sequels with the idea that although the Death Star was destroyed, Vader and Palpatine killed and the Imperial fleet driven off... that the Empire is still fully in control under a new ruler?

Maybe things in the galaxy have got even worse. Maybe the defeat at Endor caused the Imperial governers to close ranks and go on a scorched earth rampage. Assasinating the governments of planets like Mon Calimari, Sullust and Corellia. Installing martial law accross the universe, perhaps the Rebellion died away and are only just starting to rebuild their forces.

Most seem to assume it's going to remnants or total peace. But the original Yub Nub ending left it very ambiguous. I'm not saying this is what I want to see but it's possible.

I don't think the original ending is the one we should assume though, or even consider a realistic option. I think it's pretty clear from the Blu-ray ending that at the very least at some point in the nearish future after RotJ the Empire fell, unless it's farther into the future than the sequels, which I doubt. Maybe the Empire had a resurgence, but I really don't see this as possible.

emanswfan said:

valinkrai said:

I'm no expert on film grain effects, but shouldn't the grain look stretched from the theoretical anamorphic stretching process?

Well, I didn't make the mockup in AE as I'm still downloading and reinstalling all my programs and plugins.  Yes, the grain will be stretched to fit the anamorphic process.

Oh good. I did it right on the video I used film grain for then. At the same time, I'm a little sad I've delved deep enough into forums like this to actually think to account for that. Eh. Who needs being normal.

emanswfan said:

So while I'm in the process of still ripping all my blurays back to my computer, I thought I'd steal a screencap from bluray.com and process it to show off my new film grain method.  I should note that the blue lightsabers look a tad too cyan, I accidentally over did changing the blue a bit, otherwise this is getting closer to what you'll see.  I'm also having some issues with Obi's skin tones still.

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/35462

This new grain method was created by upscaling the 1080p to 4K (I made the mockup through photoshop CC, so I used the new "preserve details" algorithm) and then carefully denoised the footage to get rid of upscaling artifacts and (slight softening was also added to emulate the softer 35mm texture) then added the grain (through camera raw for this one, but I will use misfire for the real thing).  I then downscaled the footage using bicubic to make sure no additional sharpening or smoothening was applied.  This allows the grain to be less obtrusive and more natural.

I'm no expert on film grain effects, but shouldn't the grain look stretched from the theoretical anamorphic stretching process?

emanswfan said:

valinkrai said:

I suppose it's possible, but The Clone Wars isn't distributed by Fox.

I know The Clone Wars is distributed by Warner Bros., but they certainly strike a similar look.

It's actually some company called Trifecta Entertainment and Media. I assumed the same as you, but I didn't remember any logos of Warner Bros. Only the Clone Wars movie itself was WB if I recall.

emanswfan said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

 

While I don't love him, I'd take him over Spastic Plastic CG Vomit Yoda any day.

 

Indeed, the ideal would be an ESB/ROTJ Yoda in the prequels, but that probably won't ever happen except for maybe some very ambitious fanedit.

Anyhow, I now see why they are repackaging the films.

I suppose it's possible, but The Clone Wars isn't distributed by Fox.

DuracellEnergizer said:

 

valinkrai said:

Please, give detail, because for all the flaws of the prequels, I don't think going a far as possible from the prequels actually results in any good in the context of ship design.

I specifically mentioned moving away from the PT's tropes, not its concept of ship design (though if that were to happen, I couldn't care less).

 

Ah. Fair enough.

DuracellEnergizer said:

 

Fang Zei said:

There wasn't much (any?) overlap of vehicle designs between the OT and PT. Sure, they foreshadowed the OT vehicles in the designs of the PT, but we never blatantly saw an X-Wing or TIE fighter flying around.

That's because the PT was dumbfuck bullshit made by a creatively-bankrupt revisionist asshat. Departing as far as possible from its stillborn tropes is a definate must.

 

Please, give detail, because for all the flaws of the prequels, I don't think going a far as possible from the prequels actually results in any good in the context of ship design. Most prequels ships are actually pretty awesome, and probably a good indicator of where Episode VII should go, assuming the New Republic is doing well 35 years later. Would be rather silly for ship design to remain stagnant and militaristic if there has been a rather peaceful Republic, unless they indeed are still using old Imperial Ships. Hopefully more practical models, but the design itself should be different than OT. If the Republic ends up being rather behind, and decides to revel in nostalgia of an era of oppressiveimperial rule, then sure, I can see being less like the PT and more like the OT, but otherwise no.

Ryan McAvoy said:

I don't wanna see new republic Star Destroyers. They're too associated with evil to suddenly be good. Imagine a shot of Luke standing on the bridge of one, he'd look like a Sith lord simply by association.

I wanna see more of the Mon Calamari and Medical Frigate style cruisers we got a glimpse at in ROTJ.

These things look pretty cool... (I would lose the red though IMO)

 

I think The Clone Wars and the prequels are pervasive enough among the younger audiences to let them get by with Star Destroyers for good guys. In my eyes, probably affected by SE color timing, a Star Destroyer isn't really really evil looking until it's that lighter grey, almost white color. Much more dangerous feeling. I think the darker greys and stripes do a lot to make it feel less evil.

Keep in mind, if they indeed do have the original cast return, that's likely a 35+ year gap since Jedi, so I could totally see only a few remnants of commandeered ISDs and such. It's not really that big a jump to have new capital ships by the time of Episode VII.

Baronlando said:

Every time this comes up, some prequelhead starts screeching about how many models were built for the prequels, as if the volume of model building is the actual criticism, not the fact that the models are swimming in a cartoon digital sea.

To be fair to unabashed prequelheads, you couldn't write that paragraph without referring to CGI as a cartoon digital sea, as if the volume of CGI is inherently a problem. I don't understand why people refer to CGI as cartoony or video-game like, though I suspect it's because it looks like CGI, and people would rather not say what it actually looks like, so instead they say something that kinda sorta could be said to be similar to it, but in reality has no valid comparison.

Laserschwert said:

SilverWook said:

Would it be worth it just to get the Sebastian Shaw shot?

Shots... don't forget his eyebrow removal ;)

Also for some shots at Jabba's palace (like the palace gate, or where Sebulba shows up).

Why does everyone have to be so racist about aliens? It's obviously just a Dug. It's not like every human running around is Jira the fruit lady or every Wookiee is Chewie. 

TMBTM said:

Bester said:

I think the thing to take away from that announcement is that Ep VII is due for release some time between April 16-19, 2015.

I'm french and so not english expert but by "timed with the released of EP7" I guess they just wanted to say that the event will take place few weeks just before the release of EP7. I of course could be wrong, but a May release is to be expected.

You really think Disney wants Episode VII and Avengers: Age of Ultron to go up against each other? I don't think it's out of the question, but that seems like the kind of thing Disney would avoid.

Ryan McAvoy said:

SilverWook said:

generalfrevious said:

Is Abrams still going to direct Episode VII? Is he backing out like I heard a few weeks back?

It's a rumor denied by Lucasfilm at this point in time.

Odd that JJ hasn't denied it personally or just popped his head up. Here's a hypothetical...

IF JJ has quit, who is the worst possible replacement? (Realistic answers please).

I'll start... Paul W. S. Anderson?

They were talking about this on Rebel Force Radio, and how with the hype Disney gave to JJ, if he backed out, they would need a name as big or bigger than him, and they offered George Lucas and Steven Spielberg as the only two names who could really work. I can't say I disagree. It would be a PR disaster for Episode VII if they lost JJ at this point. I don't think Disney can really afford any bad PR on Episode VII. They gotta top the prequels minimum. Mess it up, and their Star Wars machine won't be nearly as strong as it could be.

Ryan McAvoy said:

I always get an odd tingle when I get in the theatre and remember that IMAX has REAL ushers (Ask your parents younglings) and a guy introduces the film and asks the audience to turn their devices off and respect each other. You pay double the price but you get alot more than double the screen and a nice experience.

Plus it's cool when they play you a ten minute short from an up and coming movie as a bonus.

That's pretty neat. I don't know where it was specifically, but I remember going to this theater in Indianapolis in 2000 for a Pokémon 2000 showing, and they had this awesome bar in the actual theater where the movie was shown and you could get ice cream and stuff, and they even had intermissions. Would love to go back there someday, though I suspect the theater has closed. I actually asked a friend if knew what it was once since he's from Indianna, and he thought he knew, but I don't think he was able to find out for sure.

DominicCobb said:

IMAX is not a gimmick. If you go to a real IMAX theater, then the screen is huge, and the projection is on 70mm trays. If you're seeing a film shot in IMAX, then the picture is significantly greater than the picture of 35mm film.

Also, even at LIeMAX, the sound is outstanding. I don't know about elsewhere, but the sound at my local theater is shit. IMAX is surround sound, and it's loud, like a movie theater should be.

Plus the seats are nice and comfy and the person in front of you is never in the way of the screen.

I treat IMAX going as something special. A couple times a year, because the closest one to me is about 45 minutes. But the experiences I have there are always outstanding.

Okay, considering the sound and seats, I suppose I can better see why people would go to Imax, even for films that don't take advantage of 70mm film. Similar reasons to why I'd go to a THX theater.