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BedeHistory731

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#1562560
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What if The Prequels were based on the Pre-PT EU and were more "OT Accurate"?
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Vladius said:
There’s no broader discussion of Christianity and Buddhism or exactly WHY monks do what they do. It’s all judged through the lens of 21st century hyper-individualistic modern western culture where everything is about sex and doing what you want, when you want, screw everyone else.

I’d want to push back on that. This view is also heavily informed by modern rejection of religious institutions, colored by decades worth of abuse scandals and cults getting exposed (e.g., Scientology and the Unification Church). The “cult that captures children and brainwashes them” doesn’t seem so unreasonable after watching Jesus Camp or any numerous videos of indoctrinated fundamentalist children. The Jedi also acting as an added branch of government doesn’t help much, given how religious institutions have invested in candidates over the years. Hell, I’m not surprised Jedi molester stories aren’t more common within AO3 fanfics.

The intention may have been noble to show monastic life in a positive light, but the execution in the films has left things open to this more critical interpretation. I wouldn’t say it’s wrong at all, but rather just operating off of what has been presented in the media/real-world context. It’s a bit of that post-Catholic scandal/post-911 antitheism of which the internet has long enjoyed.

Of course, I go for the “Anakin is basically a school shooter” philosophy and argue that Palpatine radicalized a long-vulnerable person down the path of the dark side.

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#1562400
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What if The Prequels were based on the Pre-PT EU and were more "OT Accurate"?
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Superweapon VII said:

BedeHistory731 said:

Vladius said:

That’s really interesting. I actually just read Dark Empire and I’m on Dark Empire 2 right now. I still question that internal logic though because the Emperor was clearly Vader’s master, and the Dark Lord of the Sith wasn’t ever subordinate to anyone else in TOTJ, other than ghosts of former Dark Lords like Marka Ragnos.

I’m trying to think of a justification for this inconsistency and I’m coming up blank.

I like to entertain the idea that Anakin joined the Sith specifically to gain the power to defeat Palpatine. But he overestimated his own abilities, confronted Palpatine half-cocked, had his ass handed to him, and was forced to join him or die.

It’s a really good idea for Anakin’s fall.

Also, as for Palpatine and Vader’s use of the Sith? I tend to think of Palpatine as somebody who used the Sith as a means to an end, while Vader fully embraced the ways of the Sith. A grifter vs a true believer, as some would say.

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#1562374
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What if The Prequels were based on the Pre-PT EU and were more "OT Accurate"?
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Vladius said:

That’s really interesting. I actually just read Dark Empire and I’m on Dark Empire 2 right now. I still question that internal logic though because the Emperor was clearly Vader’s master, and the Dark Lord of the Sith wasn’t ever subordinate to anyone else in TOTJ, other than ghosts of former Dark Lords like Marka Ragnos.

I’m trying to think of a justification for this inconsistency and I’m coming up blank.

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#1562103
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What if The Prequels were based on the Pre-PT EU and were more "OT Accurate"?
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Vladius said:

I do think Palpatine was intended to be a Sith, though. Once the Sith and the concept of Sith Lords existed, I’m fairly certain that Vader and Palpatine were integrated into it.

Vader was a Sith in the production of Star Wars, but the lines in the crawl and briefing scene about the Sith were cut.

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#1555184
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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timdiggerm said:

Jedi122 said:

Crossvader said:

Return of the Jedi Revisited has been halted according to one of he’s recent updates, a New Hope revisited is he’s to be completed and released before he moves back onto Jedi.

There hasn’t been an update in five months. I wonder how he’s doing.

He’s posted on these forums over the summer, just no big update. I’m sure there’ll be an update when he’s ready

Updates are usually sparse with Ady, so I wouldn’t worry that much.

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#1554253
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<strong>Ahsoka</strong> (live action series) - general discussion thread
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screams in the void said:

and sorry if I spoiled the OG Thrawn trilogy for anyone ,but it came out 32-30 years ago , if you haven’t read it by now , that’s on you . And what the heck is wrong with you if you haven’t ? ( meant that kinda tongue in cheek ,with all due respect )

The unabridged audiobooks of the trilogy are also superb, if you’re an audiobook person.

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#1551043
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Prequels or Sequels; Which do you prefer - and why?
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Sideburns of BoShek said:

Those racial stereotypes in the PT too, man, they really do stand out. Cinema can date badly, but those 3 films were made in the last 25 years.

I more willing to attribute the racist stereotypes to ignorance rather than malice, unlike the rather intense bigotry in a certain other franchise from the past 25 years.

Regarding the thread’s topic, I’m more of an ST guy in theory. However, I prefer the PT’s overall story and the memes. The OT-only approach is my dominant one and time has only strengthened that conviction.

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#1541706
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The Unpopular Film, TV, Music, Art, Books, Comics, Games, &amp; Technology Opinion Thread (for all you contrarians!)
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WookieeWarrior77 said:

I feel it’s exactly what would have happened to Sheriff Brody after the experience he had in Jaws. I love the scene where he yells for everyone to get out of the water, and various other “false alarm” moments because of the trauma he’s experiencing. My favorite part is when he tells the board meeting he knows what a shark looks like and he doesn’t intend “to go through that hell again!”

That does make sense, namely in that Brody’s actions follow logically from his experiences in the first movie.

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#1538769
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The Unpopular Film, TV, Music, Art, Books, Comics, Games, &amp; Technology Opinion Thread (for all you contrarians!)
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CourtlyHades296 said:

Jurassic Park III is the second best film in the franchise, behind only the first one. This film is aware that it’s meant to not be taken as seriously, and is a fun ride from start to finish.

I’m pretty sure that after the Jurassic World trilogy, this opinion has been getting more popular. Which is nice, because it’s also my opinion!