BedeHistory731

StarkillerAG said:

I hated both Discovery and Picard because of how grimdark and edgy they were, so I stopped watching them after Picard season 1. But I heard Strange New World was a sort of return to form for the franchise, so I checked it out, and I ended up really enjoying it.

Funny enough, Picard season 3 seems like a course-correction that largely tosses the first two seasons in the garbage.

Basically, as someone else on here (I don’t remember who) once said, “Star Wars is a buffet. Enjoy the stuff you like, and leave the rest. Seek out stuff like Andor, and avoid stuff like Mando season 3.

Yup - that goes for all franchises. This motto has come in handy for me for most of my media experiences, especially as somebody who has always been more of a TV than movie guy.

StarkillerAG said:

The absolute meltdown that some people on this site have been having is really overblown.

My post was more or less telling those posters to quit wasting their time with the franchise if they’re just going to get angry about it. Then I injected my occasional “‘77 purist” stance because I had an analogy cooked up for it.

I’m still disappointed that nobody picked up on my “bricks and screws” reference. Ah well, I thought it was funny.

G&G-Fan said:

The “Disney has ruined Star Wars forever” crowd weirds me out because like, most ya’ll agree Lucas wasn’t doing the greatest with it either, with the special editions and the prequels.

Exactly. Hell, TCW did a fine job trampling all over some very good Legends material. I miss Karen Traviss’ Mandalorians. One-dimensional, but still fun.

Anjohan said:

beloved franchise

Me, a borderline '77 purist:

The way I see it, the franchise has been coasting off of Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back for over 40 years now and almost nothing since has lived up to that standard of quality. Andor, ROTJ, TLJ, and the original Battlefront games are all that come close to me (and they don’t come all that close).

It’s like being a New York Jets fan. You had one amazing moment, and then the next fifty years were filled with mostly garbage. Star Wars is the New York Jets of media franchises.

Sometimes it’s better to leave things behind than to dwell on them and project hatred. You’ve seen the body, and you’re ready to move on with your life.

I know it’s difficult to move on from the franchises you used to love, but giving them that power over your personality and your limited time isn’t all that productive.* It applies to sports, and it applies to the devil that is media franchise production.

*Unless you’re making money off of talking about said media online. Then, by all means, go ahead. Just be prepared for when people call you a clown for complaining about bricks and screws.

Superweapon VII said:

Spuffure said:

Also, yikes, this thread has a LOT of broken file links!

Time, destroyer of worlds and URLs.

Also, I’m pretty sure a lot of image links were lost when the board switched to markdown syntax.

Saying “Objectively bad” immediately discredits any criticisms, IMHO. Especially since “objectively bad” is such a thoroughly reactionary thing to say.

adywan said:

So i had to go through each shot, frame by frame, and manually align the two sources, then mask out the areas i didn’t want, keeping only the detail in the dark areas. And i’m pleased to say that it turned out pretty good.

That’s some really impressive stuff, Ady! The added shadow detail really improves these shots. It’s making the best of the two (unfortunately) best sources we have.

But there is still a lot of the hard work left to do, which mainly involves lengthy rotoscoping.
It isn’t a lot left to do, but these are very time consuming ones to do. So please don’t think that a release is imminent.

That is entirely understandable. Take as much time as you need and never feel the need to rush shots.

So this scene is either going to be different to how it is now after i have been able to film some ANH style sandtroopers, or it will just go back to how it was in 1977 ( which i think actually works better). I’m also going to replace the mirrored troopers in this shot thanks to the newly filmed troopers.

I’d say to just go back to the 1977 version of the droid discovery scene. It works better pacing-wise and mostly preserving the 1977 pacing is an admirable goal. HAL9000 already did that in his edit (which included removing one of the CGI dewbacks) and it looked good.

Oh my, that’s some impressive stuff! It’s the perfect way to tie in R1 with the AOTC plans.

All in all, fantastic update Ady! I’m excited for the final project.

Superweapon VII said:

As far as film critics’ vs. audience scores go, I don’t trust either.

Rotten Tomatoes and its consequences has been disastrous for discourse on film criticism.

Multiple Maniacs - it’s important to the John Waters canon, but it’s very much a rough draft compared to Pink Flamingos and Female Trouble.

CamSMurph said:

BedeHistory731 said:

It looks amazing and I hope it’s not going to become an Ivan Ortega situation.

Whenever there are faneditors outside of this community and the IFDB forums, I worry about them going the Ivan Ortega way.

The Ivan Ortega ordeal escapes me.

He was breaking the “selling fanedits” rule, IIRC.

It looks amazing and I hope it’s not going to become an Ivan Ortega situation.

Whenever there are faneditors outside of this community and the IFDB forums, I worry about them going the Ivan Ortega way.

Spartacus01 said:

Women are fucking masterminds, they almost never say what they really want and what they really think. Men are the ones who directly say what they want, but women are not like that. They go around things, create hyperbolic speeches and often lie about their emotional state, because they want men to understand what they think, but without telling them directly.

I’m sorry, but this was all I was thinking while reading that.

Summoning Salt - The History of Lego Star Wars Records

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W72cyc5sESo - Summoning Salt retells the history of any-percent speedruns for Lego Star Wars: The Complete Saga. It’s pretty fascinating to see the glitch exploits and the constant pursuit of shorter times.

General Grievous being an incompetent “nepotism officer” (promoted due to Dooku’s role in his creation) would also be good. It’d help to ground Vader’s implied dislike of “nepotism officers” in the OT (Ozzel, for instance).

I get the disdain for a lot of larger EU projects though. Especially the entire Shadows of the Empire project, the disdain for that one I totally get. Prince Sex Pest and the Han Solo replacement don’t have much lasting appeal.

As far as the dumbest EU stuff I can remember, it’s Death Troopers. Star Wars but a zombie movie! Han and Chewie showing up laughably kills all tension it ever had.

It’s ludicrous that the AP Stylebook doesn’t allow Oxford Commas.

StarkillerAG said:

Speaking of Dragon Ball Z, recut the entire saga into 20-minute anime-style episodes, with the opening crawls replaced by a Tom Kane impersonator narrating over the DBZ recap theme. Insert enough deleted material (whether actual deleted scenes or recreated bits from the novelizations) to make the movies twice their original length, in order to properly capture the DBZ “10 minutes of filler per episode” storytelling method.

Then hire TeamFourStar to make an Abridged version, often beset by copyright strikes.

It applies to both men, and the LA-shot shows in general.

EDIT: disregard

As a viewer who has got a special interest is cults, the non-Buddhist reading of the Jedi is appealing but robs Anakin of his agency. If you wanted a more agency-friendly criticism of organized and esoteric religion, it should be “some people shouldn’t be exposed to certain religious thoughts, because it’ll make a troubled man believe what they’re doing is righteous.” Palpatine exposes an already troubled Anakin to the dark side philosophy and it’s over for Anakin. A historical example of this would be Roch Theriault finding Seventh Day Adventism (after difficulties with Catholicism) and using Adventist philosophies to launch the infamous Ant Hill Kids group.

adywan said:

adywan said:

Fullmetaled said:

Adywan are you fixing shots like these as well to look like the one on the top.

That’s a problem with the 2020 version , i’m using the 2011 mainly. Although that shot is a little softer in detail than the previous shot, it is nowhere near how badly scrubbed the 2020 blu-ray version is. I did give it a tweak to restore the detail though

2011 Blu-Ray

2020 Blu-Ray

ANH:RHD

I really don’t know why so many rave about the 2020 blu-rays. ANH & ESB are worse than the 2011 blu-rays in many respects. ESB is horizontally stretched and cropped, The static grain on all 3 is horrendous, the grading is flat and dull, the terribly executed use of power windows to brighten areas of a shot without bothering to move the masked area to track with the section as it moves in frame is mind blowingly amateurish, especially for someone that is supposed to be a professional, plagued with bed DNR smearing, the films have been scrubbed of so much detail and more. Why we can’t have a decent copy of these films in 2023 is beyond me.

I’m having to combine the two versions. For ANH:RHD, certain shots or sections from the 2011 version are being replaced with the 2020 version, but only in the places where the 2020 has a better image, which surprisingly, isn’t as much as you might think. For ROTJ:R though i’m having to use mainly the 2020 version as this is actually better quality than the 2011 version, for the most part, but there are some parts that are going to have to use the 2011

I’m half-surprised that you haven’t needed to use 4K77 or 4K83 to restore shots that are too far gone to DNR or poor color grading.

As far as adaptations go, did anybody read the Dark Horse comic versions or listen to the Marc Thompson audiobooks?

Rifftrax doesn’t help much, either. It’s one of those early ones, with Matt Sloan as Chad Vader on it instead of Bill Corbett. Pre-“trio reunion” Rifftrax is a strange beast indeed.

Speaking of Chad Vader, it really got weird after its first season. It wasn’t so much cringe-inducing as it was just bizarre. The production values were leagues above anything else on YouTube at the time (glares at Channel Awesome), but the content itself was fairly strange.

CatBus said:

They have a huge TV catalog, and the very limited amount of HD restorations prove the rule (X-Files, Simpsons, can you even name a third?).

A 16:9 restoration so successful that the unrestored 4:3 versions had to be added due to fan outcry.

But… hold onto your DVDs. For the long haul.

Exactly - those commentaries and special features aren’t getting ported to streaming services, while also being subject to the current whims of the production team. Take James L. Brooks’ decision to delist “Stark Raving Dad,” for instance.

Never say never, but I don’t think it’s likely. Even if the OOT got released, it’d be DNR’d to hell and back (not to mention poor audio) with automated cleanup errors and revisionist color grading. I’d rather stick with something fanmade.