Also, I noticed that you made no mention of the LOST Pilot episode, which also originally aired as a two-hour “movie” version… Does a proper version of this already exist somewhere in 1080p?
Incorrect actually, the movie version of the pilot never made it to broadcast, it originally aired in two parts and has always been that way since
Can’t really help you, but a post on Hometheaterforum indicates that there were probably changes. One poster specifically said that on yet another forum (unnamed), Season 1 Episode 17’s song Eyes by Rogue Wave was replaced.
Thought so, I do know the DVD release indicated possible music changes
Anyone have captures of the original NBC broadcasts for the first two seasons of this show? I already have the extended 101 Network captures for seasons 3-5 and was hoping I could get the first two seasons from the NBC run as well. Mostly because I want to make sure there are no music edits on the DVD and BD releases.
Please PM me if you have them.
I’d say your best bet is the broadcast rips already floating around
does anyone else have any VHS sources or anything that definitely has the full scene intact?
I do know one of the UK DVDs has it but it was reportedly dubbed over in certain bits to hide the harsher language and it seems that scene is affected too
Bruce Lee’s classic film Enter the Dragon is only available on DVD and Blu-Ray as part of an “extended version”. This version of the movie has different music cues in some scenes and most of the sound effects have been replaced.
The 4K release from last year that Warner Bros. themselves released has the original mono and remix options for both cuts and apparently they tinkered with the remix to more resemble the original
Were you able to restore the infamous whipped cream huffing scene?
One thing I will say is while it’s a shame the episodes aren’t completely uncensored (not Paramount+'s fault), they’re at least a lot better than the bastardized DVD episodes
MTV in general bastardized their catalog considering the state of the original Jackass series on Paramount+
Yeah, we are still discovering changes made to the Mike Judge Collection DVDs even in recent months. Part of it is revisionism, and part of it is going back to lower gen masters for that set (like Citizen Butt-Head, for example came out less censored). But their new releases just grab a random tape for an episode, clearly. Beware of the Butt is fully uncensored, and that tape was pulled from rotation after like two days in 1993.
Just to be clear, though, this project is fully uncensored.
I believe some of the censorships are permanent since apparently some episodes had their actual masters altered
It’s hard to say other than speculation. In some cases, probably. In other cases, like Citizen Butt-Head, clearly the master was not altered.
Doesn’t matter for the new streaming masters though, because those are all from broadcast tapes and not the upstream masters. Which is why we can have things like the Beware of the Butt “F UCKER” scene even though it only aired around twice in May 1993, and always censored after that. Or the voiceover on Give Blood’s credits, which was changed, etc.
I remember reading somewhere that Mike Judge once said he doesn’t even know if the early episodes in some cases even exist in their original form by now
One thing I will say is while it’s a shame the episodes aren’t completely uncensored (not Paramount+'s fault), they’re at least a lot better than the bastardized DVD episodes
MTV in general bastardized their catalog considering the state of the original Jackass series on Paramount+
Yeah, we are still discovering changes made to the Mike Judge Collection DVDs even in recent months. Part of it is revisionism, and part of it is going back to lower gen masters for that set (like Citizen Butt-Head, for example came out less censored). But their new releases just grab a random tape for an episode, clearly. Beware of the Butt is fully uncensored, and that tape was pulled from rotation after like two days in 1993.
Just to be clear, though, this project is fully uncensored.
I believe some of the censorships are permanent since apparently some episodes had their actual masters altered
One thing I will say is while it’s a shame the episodes aren’t completely uncensored (not Paramount+'s fault), they’re at least a lot better than the bastardized DVD episodes
MTV in general bastardized their catalog considering the state of the original Jackass series on Paramount+
Interesting
This looks to be a print of the 1980 special edition as it appears to have the alternate family introduction not in the original version
The original stereo mix of this movie hasn’t been released since the pre-DVD days and apparently the 5.1 track has some changes in it. Namely added music during the after party scene when Lloyd walks Diane home, which originally played silent. It’s possible some other changes occurred but I’m not entirely sure about what they’d be.
If one does have a laserdisc or VHS of this movie, please contact me
Really interested in the project, maybe even in contributing. Just one question first, is there something about the blu ray release that is wrong or messed up that you are trying to fix with this project. Or are you doing this just to do it, for the fun/educational process.
Really just curious, most of the projects I see here are trying to fix poor color timing or subsequent director/studio meddling. What’s your reason?
The current Blu is an ancient flat sharpened 2k master. A 35mm print scan is very welcome until Paramount releases the new 4k master.
Isn’t it with Fox in the US?
You should also attempt to restore the cut whipped cream huff scene removed after its theatrical release
By most accounts there aren’t any surviving prints of the film with the epilogue intact. What little has survived is not enough for a full restoration. This is why the epilogue is only shown in brief clips in the documentary on the DVD/BD.
In fact it was actually a miracle that the flower girl scene from Frankenstein was found fully intact, considering it was cut from the negative and destroyed soon after
What was used in the current restoration was from some print in the UK that happened to have it, it has noticeably worse quality than the rest of the movie and you can even see the quality shift in the next scene after it cuts back to the lower generation footage (idk what element they used for the rest of the movie)
The 4K DCP is reported to be the theatrical cut so there may be hope for a re-release after all
It works both ways, however the 4K has some issues with it
The theatrical cut being the shortened 2003 cut used since the DVD release, with various small trims throughout, but unlike before the mono mix this time was excluded as an option so you’re now stuck with the remix
The TV cut is also included in its first ever home video release but an SD source was used and it was AI sharpened really badly
bumping this thread because I wanna know if anyone happens to have an NBC recording (preferably in widescreen) of the season 7 finale Kiss and Tell
I’m very highly suspicious it originally aired as hour long with Friends with Benefits
and if it isn’t anymore difficult, I would like an international broadcast of Really Big Shrimp, because Paramount+ mistakenly used a US broadcast master meaning it’s missing its end credits
It’s very well known that, while it varies depending on whatever platform the show is on, there are a total of 7 episodes that have consistently been missing on any platform (Paramount+ as of now is the most complete in this regard, as it’s only these 7 that are missing). The reason each of these episodes are missing varies, either featuring a song, a song performance by a guest, or a guest appearance of a celebrity. Two of the missing episodes are from season 1 and five of them are from season 2. Now while TV captures of these episodes exist, they’re marred with problems like station logos and how they’re all missing their end credits sequences (with the exception of a capture I found of the pilot). The reason for the latter is due to how they’re captured mostly from US broadcasts and those broadcasts almost never aired the full credits sequences, despite airing with them intact internationally.
Missing Episodes:
-Pilot (released on DVD minus one song change)
-Dune Buggy (released on DVD minus one song change)
-Guitar (TV capture required)
-Number 1 Fan (released on DVD)
-Driver’s License (TV capture required)
-Blues Brothers (TV capture required)
-The Gary Grill (supposedly released on a Latin American DVD but otherwise a TV capture would be required)
My goal is to possibly acquire captures of these episodes with their credits sequences intact and hopefully logo free. This should be easy for at least a few of these missing episodes, as there were a couple of DVD editions released that contained them (though the pilot and Dune Buggy each did have a song change so I’ll still need a TV capture for the audio of at least one scene from both). If anyone has any source then please feel free to respond or PM me with your sources.
Can anyone confirm that they have actually received the “link” everyone is asking for? I’ve PM’d SpacemanDoug also but have doubts this is legit. Sorry for being a skeptic… just seems odd you have to sign up for the platform and send a private message just to get the link that he’s giving out to everyone who asks? Why not just post it here on this thread for everyone to see?
It’s against policy to publicly share links like that on the forums, I rarely ever check this thread anymore which is why I prefer people PMing me over responding to this thread
hey! Wondering if anyone might still have a link to this. I own blu ray but would love to see it like this. thanks!
Turns out Arrow is releasing this and it’ll have all three cuts
MGM recently published this clip on YouTube and I thought it might be of some interest to members here. These clips from The Terminator look very different to the current Blu-Ray master; some good detail but overall looking rather soft, lacking contrast, and with a heavily desaturated colour palette. The black level looks greyish and “milky.” The colour grade lacks the teal emphasis of the 2012 Blu-Ray.
I wonder what elements this was sourced from. It almost looks like a totally ungraded scan from the camera negatives or perhaps an interpositive. The overall look is vaguely reminiscent of some of the early home video masters, but in widescreen HD.
Perhaps this is the raw scan done for a 40th anniversary reissue due next year. If that’s right, I hope a high quality copy of the original theatrical mono soundtrack will be included too. I’d also welcome an isolated soundtrack option for Brad Fiedel’s synthesizer score.
The Milan CD includes the wrong version of Escape from the Police Station, and the mastering for some reason is quite rolled off in the high end. Maybe an attempt to reduce tape hiss, but I think they went a bit overboard in that regard leading to an overly dark tonal balance. It lacks top end sparkle compared to the earlier Edel CD, which I think is better in terms of sonics… but wrong artistically as Fiedel has pointed out. He had no say in the mix done for that CD, and the end result didn’t reflect all the detailed editing he carried out during the postproduction and dubbing process back in 1984 for the film itself.
That is not what it is at all, that’s very much a very poorly SDR converted version of an HDR grade, I’ve seen the effect before
However that could only mean a 4K master was completed
I can see how the AI program is making it sharper and better in some places but it’s also hurting other parts
The biggest example is his sweater in the second cap and his smaller figure in the third looks like watercolors now, so I’d suggest just being careful of the amount of times you use it
It seems everyone abandoned this project, I wonder why?
Because the original audio has since been re-released, though Shout! Factory’s releases omitted one song (not due to a lack of effort) despite otherwise being original