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Post: #178413
Topic: I actually prefer the DVDs and can't wait for more edits, seriously.
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/178413/action/topic#178413
Time: 7-Feb-2006 4:44 AM

The thing is with the rubix cube analogy it's undoing your mistakes after fiddling with it for so long. Thus, preserving the original out of the box image of the toy. It's not changing the colors on the toy and, giving it extra arms/legs/tentacals(to be added after months of CGI); a.k.a. adding extra scenes and, tentacals to the sarlacc. It's adhering to the original. That's beside the point though. I'm one of those people that think Lucas could release 20 different versions on DVD for all I care. So long as, one of them is the original and, it's clearly marked as, such.

Post: #178199
Topic: .: The Lancer DVD Project :. (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/178199/action/topic#178199
Time: 6-Feb-2006 9:22 PM

I watched the flyby and, I liked it it is a bit jerky though. If your open to using the original shot I think that it's on the AOTC DVD. In the "It's all magic" web doc. I can't be sure though here's one quick capture image of it and, here's another quick capture image. I have a question though why is there a wipe in the middle(that's where I noticed a bit of jerkyness)?

Post: #177586
Topic: General Star Wars Caption This
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/177586/action/topic#177586
Time: 5-Feb-2006 4:45 AM

"If I don't have a right to revenge. Then who does?"

"No one."

Post: #177126
Topic: The legendary "Starkiller Ranch" Thread
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/177126/action/topic#177126
Time: 4-Feb-2006 3:08 AM

I have a suggestion on the C3PO thing. Perhaps these lines:

C3PO: May I present two most important visitors. (mabye something else for C3PO)

Anakin: I'm Anakin Skywalker.

Owen: I expected you would come here. I'm Owen Lars that robot was a gift from my Father to your Mother. She would have wanted you to have it.

Anakin: What are you talking about? Is my Mother here?

Cliegg: (off camera) No she's not. (on camera) Cliegg Lars, (extends hand camera on Anakin) Shmi's my wife. We should head inside. We have a lot to talk about.

Sure, it's not as, funny as, the "take him for 500 credits" beat but, it might work.

Post: #176825
Topic: Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side (the TM edit) (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/176825/action/topic#176825
Time: 3-Feb-2006 6:24 AM

Trooperman: I like the new chase scene. I especially like that it's more like a dark sky now and, less los vegasy. I was also remembering the Kamino location mystery and, it's become less clear in this version because, of the loss of the rishi maze info. I was thinking about a change of lines to the droid analysis scene to make it more clear.

"One moment please"
Machine checks on dart
"Item seems to have come from a recent trade. From the Kamino system just outside the rishi maze. Exact planet cordinates are unknown. No other information is availible."

-Or-

"It is a toxic kyberdart. Last known to be in production in the Kamino system along the outlying rishi maze. Exact planet cordinates are unknown. No other information is availible."

This could imply that Jango just bought it at a weapons store/he was there recently and, you could keep the "according to my information it should appear here. Just outside the rishi maze." bit in the library. It also, explains why he thinks it's there. If you take it out it's as though Kamino is where this dart came from, Kamino not found in archives, random place picked that has anonmilies to go to [and, wouldn't you know it, it's there!] . It also, keeps the clone information secret until he get's to Kamino. Oh, yeah and, I changed the name to kyberdart becuase, according to here that's what it was originally going to be called.

Post: #176213
Topic: who misses the prequels?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/176213/action/topic#176213
Time: 2-Feb-2006 3:38 AM

Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi

Now, imagine if Lucas had included the scene with Qui-Gon. To the viewer, Yoda's revelation to Obi-Wan would have seemed somewhat repetitive, and wouldn't have as much of a "WTF was that? Cool. Wow!" reaction, since the viewer would already know everything by seeing Qui-Gon telling all of this to Yoda.

I think it's cool that it gives us something to think about. And.. if we want a specific answer, we can choose to read the novel.

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Then they were either:

A. Not paying attention
B. Not using their brain
C. All of the above

If the qui-gon information had been included it wouldn't have been repetitive to have Yoda tell Kenobi. Why? Well, from the Qui-gon information it gives us that he's going to train Yoda and, that a sith can't be a force ghost. In the conversation with Kenobi he says that he's going to train him to talk to Qui-gon. Without it you get this Yoda tells Kenobi that he'll teach him how to communicate with Qui-gon and, that Qui-gon found the path of immortallity. You lose the information that a Sith can't become a Force ghost. Thus, if you think of all the Episodes as one story it's implied that could still Anakin be a sith when he dies and, get's to be a force ghost because, he's the chosen one.

Also, your comment about just read the novel. You said that to me once about trying to get the "No!" at the end of Sith. I don't think a person should have to read a novel just to understand why a character is meditating. Especially when it's important to the overall story. Oh, yeah and, I found that passage in the novel on the internet about that scene and, it still didn't address my question(s). Why does he still care about Padmé? Why is he still Anakin and, not yet truely Vader?

And, your comment about not using thier brain. I think your not using your brain in thinking that the scene was clear that he was meditating with Qui-gon. All we see from the character is we see him escape saying he's going into exile, meditation, going to deal with the babies, talking about where the babies go, telling Kenobi he can speak with Qui-gon and, he's found the path of immortality. There's nothing but, outside sources to say that his meditation is speaking with Qui-gon. It gives it more of a "Where the hell did that come from?"/"Well, that was random."/"So, when does he find this out?" moment. From how it's presented it looks like he's thinking of a place to go not he just found out Qui-gon's immortal.

Edit: Oh, yeah and, in line with the topic. I don't miss the prequels becuase, they're out on DVD and, I bought them. Can't miss something you own. I do however, miss the OT. Since, I only own the DVD versions and, have yet to decide on getting an ebay account and, buying a VHS or, laserdisc/get a fan preservation. I used to own Star Wars on tape but, it has gotten lost. I don't know if the ESB and, Jedi I had was the Special edition or the originals(it was taped off a TV broadcast and, I assume it was the SE's but, have started to wonder). They got ruined because, of time nonetheless.

Post: #171679
Topic: Have you guys seen that Comcast commercial?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/171679/action/topic#171679
Time: 20-Jan-2006 4:26 AM

Originally posted by: Invader Jenny

And have you noticed that Harrison Ford has done, like, absolutly nothing lately.

Harrison Ford is in a movie that's coming out called Firewall. February 10th is what the commercials are saying.

Oh, and no I haven't seen the Comcast commercial.

Post: #171676
Topic: General Star Wars Caption This
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/171676/action/topic#171676
Time: 20-Jan-2006 4:16 AM

http://www.glossynews.com/artman/uploads/sexy-storm-trooper.jpg

"I'm going to be some of the Stormtroopers in the 2007 edition!"

http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Lot/8925/starwars/cfisher.jpg

"George! You told me there was no underwear in space!"

http://www.star-wars.eu.com/data/lucas.jpg

"If you don't count the outfit you wore in ROTJ as, underwear. What the hell do you count as, underwear!?"

Post: #169948
Topic: Lucas was still reworking the turn scene after post production!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/169948/action/topic#169948
Time: 13-Jan-2006 10:27 AM

Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi
Son. of. a. bitch. That would have worked MUCH better having Obi-Wan to be the main Jedi instead of treating him as the secondary character he is in TPM.

*laughs*
Finally! A change that Lucas made that you don't try to come up with some kind of defense for.

I was just thinking mabye that explains this still I've seen. Mabye, just mabye that's how it was going to be but, it got dropped early on...

<edit> Oh, and, mabye the close-ups were trying to hide the fact that Obiwan was no longer in the scene. Like how he took Owen out of this scene.

I just realized I derailed this thread a bit... Sorry about that... </edit>

Post: #169935
Topic: Lucas was still reworking the turn scene after post production!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/169935/action/topic#169935
Time: 13-Jan-2006 9:54 AM

CO: Another thing that changed in the scene was that Mace used to have two lightsabers when he was fighting Siddious at the window.

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/4453/maceattackssidious1kw.th.jpg

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/4453/maceattackssidious1kw.jpg

This reminds me of reading about George's first intentions to have Obiwan the "main" jedi in TPM for the first act. Then, he meets Quigon at Coruscant I read it here. For a guy that professes that he wants his "original vision" to be seen he does change it a lot.

Post: #169723
Topic: Info: Master Edition - the website for future Star Wars DVD changes
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/169723/action/topic#169723
Time: 12-Jan-2006 12:40 PM

I don't know how your going to do the stuff you want to do with the fireplace scene... Apart from reshoots... Also, if your against adding the family scenes to the movie then, you should definatly take out the meeting with the queen scene. Why? Well, going to your parents house while your in hiding is one thing. Going to a meeting with Senators and, a Queen while your double is one Coruscant is a tottally different roll of dice. Hell, in that one scene she just gave up her cover and, she can't be sure that they won't tell anyone she's there. If she goes to her Parents well, they know she's in danger so, they probably won't tell anyone she's there. Plus, there doesn't seem to be a [reliable] phone book of sorts in the Star Wars galaxy. Hell, an entire Planet got deleted from the only Library we've seen. For all we know her Parents house is listed on Uttapou/not in any records at all. Plus, in TPM that's where the holophone of sorts is. Someone from Coruscant could have called at any moment.

Post: #168837
Topic: The legendary "Starkiller Ranch" Thread
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/168837/action/topic#168837
Time: 9-Jan-2006 5:38 AM

I thought of a simple and, to the point title just now. "The War Has Begun" or, if you don't want war in the subtitle "The Battle Has Begun", "The Battles begin", "Start of a Battle". Also, mabye "Uprising of Conflict" or, "Choice of a Hero", "Path of a Hero".

Post: #168831
Topic: Episode III The Video Game - The Movie
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/168831/action/topic#168831
Time: 9-Jan-2006 4:31 AM

I have a question did you include the alternate ending on the disc? It's quite different from the regular ending... If you want more information on it PM me....

Post: #168450
Topic: 'Merge' Article- Lucas in his own words
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/168450/action/topic#168450
Time: 7-Jan-2006 9:07 AM

LUCAS: I haven't read any of the novels. That's a different world than my world. I do try to keep it consistent. I have a Star Wars encyclopedia on my shelf and when I come up with a name or something, I have to look it up to make sure it hasn't already been used.

So, I guess anything can happen in the novels. Like this scenario I just thought of:

Bail gets word of the Death star a day after Leia. So he goes to Tatooine(presumably to tell Ben that it's time to get Luke into training) finds Obiwan's hut abanded and, Owen and, Beru dead. So, he goes back to Alderaan only to see it distroyed. The tie fighter goes to investigate his ship. He uses the last of his hyperspace fuel to get someplace else. He ends up on Endor and, because he's wearing some gold coat the ewoks think of him as a god. After the celebration at the end of Jedi Luke and, Leia got an infection from somewhere along thier journey. So, they go to an Ewok medical center Bail comes in to get something he left there; see's Leia and, has a happy reunion. She asks the obvious "Why didn't you tell me I had a brother?" He replies "You don't. Why are you asking me this?" To which Luke replies "Ben Kenobi told me that Leia was my sister. Well, I sensed it but, he didn't deny it." Bail replies "Luke you had a sister but, she contracted a disease a month after being brought to our house. That's when I found out [insert name of Bail's wife here] was pregnant with Leia. I was hoping I wouldn't have to tell you two this. I never told Kenobi becuase, it would be too risky."

Post: #168185
Topic: Info: Master Edition - the website for future Star Wars DVD changes
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/168185/action/topic#168185
Time: 6-Jan-2006 9:36 AM

Originally posted by: aPPmaSTer

That would work in some sense...except that I don't think Anakin was expecting to die...or join the darkside, or be away from his child in any sense. It might make more sense if he said that he wanted his son to be a Jedi or something...but that wouldn't really be lightsaber-specific. I think the best and easiest way to take care of that is to just do what I did and replace "Your father" with "I". And when you think about it, it makes a lot more sense. Little things like this are what makes the saga feel more consistent and complete, just like Battlewars said.

I strongly dissagree about the being away from his child bit. In the beggining of the movie he mentions he wouldn't even have come back if the Chancellor weren't kidnapped. Plus, if you do have something where he talks about his child being a jedi. I think it would have to be lightsaber specific because, in AOTC he looses his lightsaber during the chase, then his lightsaber gets cut at the factory. Saying that he want's his kid to have it puts more importance on it[sort of like saying "There's no way I'm losing this one."]. I agree that putting "I" in it's place would be easier but, I dissagree that it's the best way. The best way would to have the jedi not be against marriage and, such. Then, Anakin could tell Obiwan sometime after finding out he's going to have a child. In any case I'm just suggesting ideas if you pull off getting the actors for reshoots[if you do get them to do reshoots might as, well try to make the PT fit the OT more and, not the other way around].

Post: #168088
Topic: Info: Master Edition - the website for future Star Wars DVD changes
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/168088/action/topic#168088
Time: 5-Jan-2006 9:46 PM

If your going to add a part where he talks about giving his lightsaber to his son. I think it would have to go like this[I wrote this a while ago]:

The dream Anakin wakes up rest of the events up to Hayden saying "It's just a dream"

Anakin walks over to where his lightsaber is
Anakin: I want him to have this. I want him to become a Jedi.
Padme: Him? Why do you think it's a boy?
Anakin: He was in my dream.
Padme: Now how could that be a bad dream?
Anakin: There was something else ... You die in childbirth. [rest of scene plays out]

I just rewrote one of Padme's lines just now. (Him? Why do you think it's a boy?/Him? How do you know it's a boy?) Anyways, since there's intercutting in the birth of vader scene it's probable that Padme told Obiwan. Even, if you don't include the Vader birth scene it's probable she told Obiwan before the surgery began. That's where Obiwan's line comes from. It also, takes care of Vader knowing about Luke but, not Leia... Though, it would only be accomplishable through reshoots....

Post: #167944
Topic: Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side (the TM edit) (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/167944/action/topic#167944
Time: 5-Jan-2006 5:48 AM

Hi everyone- Happy New Year! This is the year that "Shroud of the Dark Side" comes out. Is it true that over 3000 people have viewed this thread? Or is it just the same people visiting over and over?
(late)happy new year to you too. I don't think the counter is based on an unique IP and, the number of views is effected by the number of refreshes of a page. So, yeah it just might the same people visiting over and, over.

Please continue to comment on my notes, though.

"I am in charge here."

Good idea! I'll see if I can incorporate it.

In your notes for The two towers. I see that you have Saruman saying "But my lord, there is no such force!" I think that it's actually his lackey that says that and, not Saruman.

Post: #167925
Topic: The legendary "Starkiller Ranch" Thread
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/167925/action/topic#167925
Time: 5-Jan-2006 3:54 AM

I read about your debate on whether having a subtitle or, not. I read that someone suggested "Duel of the fates". Mabye it could be "Duel of Fates" or, "The Duel of Fates". So, that it doesn't have a "of the" title. Also, what about this for a title "The Dark Forces" since dark forces could apply to the Trade federation, to maul, or both. Or mabye, (if you don't want two "Dark" titles) "The Federation Attacks". Though, I don't mind this edit being called just Star Wars. I also like the new addition to the script. Some of the ideas in there I would like to incorporate into my own edit [sometime in the future] if you guys don't mind. Oh, I just thought of another title(s) "The Prophecy Revealed", "Hard times for Naboo", "Troubling times", "The Menace Revealed", "The Menace Attacks", "The Prophecy foretold". Though, I just thought of those off the top of my head...

Post: #166848
Topic: ROTS a kind of AOTC 2.0?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/166848/action/topic#166848
Time: 31-Dec-2005 7:48 PM

Sluggo: I said bad romance dialog. I know that romance dialog is nessasary if you have two people falling in love but, something like this is a parralel.
"Grown more beautiful I mean
For a senator I mean"-AOTC
"You are so beautiful."
"It's only becuase I'm so, in love."
"No, no it's becuase I'm so in love with you"
"So, love has blinded you?"
"Well, that's not exactly what I meant."
"It's probably true." -ROTS

Jenny: I think that Episode two would have been greatly better if it followed the storyline of the clone wars video game. Basically ***SPOILER ALERT*** ****TURN BACK NOW IF YOU DON'T WANT SPOILERS***SPOILER ALERT****
It starts when Anakin Obiwan and, Padme are captured in the Arena. Mace and, the other jedi go to save them. After there saved they go after Dooku. Then, somewhere down the line(after going through battles with Obiwan) Anakin finds out Dooku has found a force harvester. Which is designed to harvest the living force from other beings to power up a machine. Then, he gets out goes to the jedi temple(I think with obiwan Somehow Anakin meets up with Obiwan again. I forgot I haven't played the game in a while.) They get a history lesson from Mace about what the force harvester was used for. When, the sith wars were faught. The sith used the force harvester to power thier greatest weapon the grand reaper(err, something like that I forgot the name.) To destroy the jedi. One jedi found out how to resist the harvesters effects and, the jedi won the sith wars. Somehow Anakin finds out where to find the jedi that resisted the force harvester. They have a conversation via holgram in an ice cave. Basically the other jedi says don't underestemate the darkside. I thought I could resist it I was wrong(he looks up and, he has no eye's and a scar across his face.) Anakin says he's ready to be trained. He has more battles with Obiwan at his side and, a whole bunch of other stuff leads to Anakin leading(that's right I said leading) an assault where the Reaper is. He defeats the reaper and, Obiwan and, Anakin look at the battlefield. Obiwan basically says something like this is just one battle the war has not been won. That's the jist of it anyway.
***End spoiler warning***
***End spoiler warning***

If you sprinkle the love story into that then, Episode II would have been a lot better. <edit> And somehow working into the Death of his mother.</edit>

Post: #166748
Topic: ROTS a kind of AOTC 2.0?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/166748/action/topic#166748
Time: 31-Dec-2005 7:02 AM

While I was replying to 50's diner in Star Wars universe thread I got an idea for this thread. While watching ROTS I got a sense that it's sort of a AOTC 2.0 like he was trying to fix the problems he created in AOTC(without making a AOTC SE). Here's just a short list of the similarities between ROTS and, AOTC:

1downward chase/downward spaceship fall
2Mace tells what Dooku is/Mace tells what Grevious is
3Anakin and, Padme meet up after being away for a while
4Anakin and, Obiwan seperate becuase of some mission
5Anakin whines about Obiwan to Padme
6Obiwan overhears the meeting with Dooku/Grevious
7Bad romance dialog between Anakin and, Padme
8Obiwan doesn't meet up with Anakin again until near the end
9Anakin and, Palpatine go down the same stairs while having a conversation
10Mace tells Anakin to do something and, Anakin does the opposite
11Obiwan has to go into stealth mode
12Padme packs in the same room in both movies
13Mace/Yoda/Obiwan talk about Anakin
14Anakin has a nightmare and, believes it will come true
15Some short sequence of Anakin killing aliens
16Anakin tells Padme he killed Tuskens/Obiwan tells Padme Anakin killed Jedi
17pan up sun on right/pan down sun on right
18Obiwan gets thrown over a ledge by Jango/Grievous and, in TPM Maul
19Padme comments on Anakin's changes
20Obiwan and, Anakin talk about his training

That's just off the top of my head. There's probably more but, I don't want to list them all.... Am I the only one that thinks this?

Post: #166744
Topic: Someone please explain why there is a 50's diner in the Star Wars universe...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/166744/action/topic#166744
Time: 31-Dec-2005 5:53 AM

Jenny: That made me laugh.

Jenny/Tape: Yep, I don't know what George was thinking when he was editing AOTC. Mabye he was to focused on the Yoda fight or, something. It seems like he was thinking "Okay, I need to get these people to see the new queen while they're in hiding. I need to seperate Anakin and, Obiwan. I also, need to make the librarian say less lines. Oh, yeah and, I can't have her visit her family."

Post: #166625
Topic: Someone please explain why there is a 50's diner in the Star Wars universe...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/166625/action/topic#166625
Time: 30-Dec-2005 7:12 PM

It's a shame that the scene's were changed from the script. According to here The droid waitress was a human. Also, here has some deleted dialog that is a lot better and, makes it less of a naive library keeper. Especially, these lines:

Post: #166325
Topic: Lines you thought they said...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/166325/action/topic#166325
Time: 29-Dec-2005 5:31 PM

I couldn't figure out what Anakin was saying in ROTS until I read the screenplay. All I could make out was "What was that all about" "Well R2 has been" "did I say anything?" "I didn't say anything." The rest was too low in volume or something for me to figure out. In ANH I don't think I ever heard the tractor beam dialog(until recently) but, I might have been watching a version with that out.

Post: #166137
Topic: Info Wanted: Episode I with The Beginning opening... crawl?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/166137/action/topic#166137
Time: 29-Dec-2005 1:24 AM

Originally posted by: ShiftyEyes
Does anyone know if Episode III had a working title? I remember reading Episode II went under "Jar Jar's Great Adventure."

I think that Episode III went under "The Creeping Fear". Here's an article on it. Here's another article. here's another one on yahoo movies. There's more on google if you search for it.

Post: #166059
Topic: Holograms...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/166059/action/topic#166059
Time: 28-Dec-2005 7:05 PM

I think that the Han stepping on tail thing could have simply been solved with Jabba *mini drumroll* turning around! No need for a hologram or anything like that. Also, the conversation with Palpatine and, Anakin would have to be after he destroyed the temple. The conversation is different and, Anakin's less whatever he is after he cuts off Mace's arm. I don't know what the hell was up with all the faces he was making....