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#269336
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Idea & Info: The Challenge of Re-Editing a Crap Flick
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/269336/action/topic#269336
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Originally posted by: Sluggo
You want a real challenge, host a contest about editing the Star Wars Holiday Special.


Eh, but that's the thing. EVERYBODY does Star Wars. The Holiday Special is the one exception, but everybody and anybody does 5 different SW reedits. It'd just be neat to see different material...just for a change.

Take a look at IMDB's Bottom 100:
http://www.imdb.com/chart/bottom

Come on, you know you want to take a crack at Superbabies: Baby Geniuses 2 or From Justin to Kelly...or better yet, Glitter.

Oh, and FYI: Alone in the Dark 2 has been announced for production.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0913951/
Yes, God really does hate us, and wants us to suffer.
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#269292
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Idea & Info: The Challenge of Re-Editing a Crap Flick
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/269292/action/topic#269292
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Hey guys,

I just had a rather interesting thought pop into my head. There’s a lot of really talented amateur editors in this place. and they’ve done a good job of taking good and average films, and turning them into excellent films. But I think it’d be interesting to see what could be done with truly bad, bad films. So I propose a little competition for the folks here. Why not have some sort of competition where everybody who enters tackles the same flick, the same source material, to see who can do the best job of turning it into something watchable.

I propose…

The Uwe Boll Cook-Off!

In short, one of Boll’s films would be chosen, and everybody interested would take a crack at reediting the film into something not completely nausea-inducing. Does this sound interesting to anyone else?

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#268629
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Young Indiana Jones... a preservation (* unfinished project *) - a mass of info & ideas
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/268629/action/topic#268629
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Quoted from: http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=4266
Dated 10/08/05

Our good friend Bill Hunt of The Digital Bits website celebrated his 38th birthday yesterday by attending the Lucasfilm press event about the upcoming Revenge of the Sith film release on DVD. While there, he heard Producer (and Luca right-hand man) Rick McCallum speak on subjects mostly having to do with Star Wars, but also about the long-awaited TV-DVDs for The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles. Here's what Bill passes on at his website about that:

McCallum expects there to be 22 Young Indiana Jones Chronicles DVDs in all, 3 of which have been completed. The discs will include some 66 historical featurettes, now in production. Work has been ongoing for about 18 months on the Young Indy DVDs, with about another 18 months worth of work yet to be done. If all goes well, the plan is to tie the DVD release to the theatrical debut of Indy IV (the script for which Lucas is expected to finish this Sunday).

The original timeframe for this release was generally to be somewhere between the last quarter of 2005 and the last quarter of 2006. However, the new comments firmly place the release of Young Indy on DVD to be more in the Spring 2007 timeframe...probably around Memorial Day, since that's a reasonable target to guess at for the debut of a 4th Indiana Jones motion picture! McCallum's comments that tie those two events together match perfectly the info in the last update back in July.

Our thanks (and happy birthday to) Bill Hunt for keeping us updated on this one. Stay tuned for further updates as we get them.


Kinda hilarious that they projected the movie as coming out in the spring of this year, when the damn thing won't even start filming til June...so, sometime next year.
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#264385
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Spider Man 2 Extended Cut - In January on FX (Clips Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/264385/action/topic#264385
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Originally posted by: maurice2029
Originally posted by: iRantanplan
No, it won't Sam Raimi always said openly, that there are only a few things extended, nothing additional was really added, and his thoughts are that this is only for the studio to milk the fans. Sam Raimi doesn't like this version.


That's too bad. I might buy this DVD when it becomes a cheapie, instead of buying it immediately when it's released for a high price.


Sucker.
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#263099
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Star Wars HD coming in November! All SIX movies!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/263099/action/topic#263099
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Regardless of one's preference for Blu-Ray or HD-DVD, neither is really necessary. A 1080i x264 encode sized to fit on a DVD-9 looks quite nice, but the problem is, unless you're running a dual-core machine, you won't be able to play the damn thing. The only way you'd be able to watch it at 1080 would be to reencode the H.264 TS (Sky HD utilizes H.264 compression, rather than MPEG2) to MPEG2.

For the vast majority of people, 720p is as high as you can go while utilizing H.264/x264 codecs, and a 720p encode of the Star Wars films looks great even when squeezed down to a DVD-5.

So Dunedain, seriously, at 20 to 30 bucks a disc, using Blu-Ray discs is stupid...not even accounting for the cost of the damn drives. If you want to play with bigger files, just use a hard drive.
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#263001
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Star Wars HD coming in November! All SIX movies!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/263001/action/topic#263001
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Dunedain, what is it you mean about the video being "unaltered"? If you're asking if the Cinemax showed the original, unaltered trilogy (as it was before 1997), no, it didn't. They showed the 2004 versions.

Secondly, right now, the best available HD versions are from a german HD channel that showed them a couple months ago. However, Sky HD (a set of British channels, similar to HBO) is supposed to be airing them on one of their HD channels in January, and right now, the highest quality HD rips have been coming from their channels. High bitrate, good compression, etc. So at that point, that'll be the best available.

But there is no HD version of the pre-97 movies. The best version of that available is the recent DVD release that was sourced from the videodisc transfer.
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#262298
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The Amazing Spider-Man: A Spence Edit (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/262298/action/topic#262298
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Originally posted by: Wesyeed
I'm going to check this out when it's up. If it were my edit, you don't have to do this, but if it were my edit, I'd somehow edit in the old WTC trailer footage back into the movie. I didn't think it was disrespectful to the victims of 9/11, in fact it kinda to me anyway sort of honors the towers by giving them this role to help capture badguys in spidey's web- seemed cool to me.

btw has that extended cut of Spidey 2 aired on fx, yet? Anybody know?


The WTC trailer was a standalone trailer--the footage in it was never meant to be a part of the film, but rather, serve as a teaser, while at the same time, giving nothing about the film itself away. Another example of this type of trailer was the Godzilla trailer that showed the kids inside the museum looking at a T. Rex skeleton, and then having Godzilla's foot come through the roof and stomp the skeleton (an obvious reference to the Jurassic Park movies).

So yeah, never a part of the film.

And the extended cut of Spiderman 2 (which'll likely only be a couple minutes longer) airs January 2nd, I think.
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#261976
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Info: ADM's Titanic (3 disc set) & Dracula - on RS
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/261976/action/topic#261976
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There have been several ISPs that have throttled Bittorrent, as it's actually possible to differentiate between torrent data and other forms of data. So while stuff you're downloading via newsgroups can't be seperated from website browsing, BT does stick out. Google your ISP, "throttling" and "torrents" or "bittorrent" and see what you come up with.

Some info:

http://www.azureuswiki.com/index.php/Bad_ISPs

Of course, not complete info, of course, but it's a start.
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#261972
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Info: ADM's Titanic (3 disc set) & Dracula - on RS
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/261972/action/topic#261972
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Originally posted by: dark_jedi
not by me at the moment,I am all of a sudden having big time torrent problems,and its ONLY with torrents,my speed upping and downing has come to a crawl,and have NO idea why.
DJ


If you're on a college connection, it may be getting pinched by their network admin. If you're on your own connection, your ISP may be doing the same.
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#261719
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Spider Man 2 Extended Cut - In January on FX (Clips Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/261719/action/topic#261719
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Originally posted by: Laserschwert
I'm sorry, my brother told me about this 50 minutes thing... I'll ask him where he got that from.

EDIT: Obviously he got that info from HERE. I'm not sure though if this is just a rumour or some speculation.


My guess is that that's 3 hours, including commercials. Or that one guy doesn't know what he's talking about.
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#260271
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"Banning of OCPMovie"
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/260271/action/topic#260271
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Originally posted by: Esn
If I understand this correctly, he's not selling other people's work out of this website but out of his own website... this is immoral, but... is it against the rules? And are other people who do this (while not directly advertising the fact on this board) ALSO identified and banned?


You have to keep in mind that a lot of the fan edits and whatnot he's accumulated have more than likely come from folks on this site.
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#260038
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"Banning of OCPMovie"
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/260038/action/topic#260038
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Originally posted by: Arnaud
Originally posted by: OgOggilby
He's made a lot of people happy with the Recobbled Cut and I think internet drama is ridiculous.

I totally agree. Shame on this forum's administrators. I wish good luck to OCP.


I have a great deal of admiration for OCP's work, but doing good work does not give him the right to disrespect the work of others, which he did both explicitly, in his comments on XO's project, and implicitly, by selling the works of others, who they themselves did not sell their works, because they recognized that their works were derivatives of the originals. He had no right to do what he did. He knew what the rules were, and he broke them.

I empathize with the financial difficulties he's dealing with, and I greatly admire the man's work, but he broke the rules bigtime, knowing full well what the consequences would be. Fan edits are in a major gray area as it is. They survive because they are not made for profit, and their existence is indicative of a fan's dedication to a film or films. But when people start turning profits on these things, you can bet your ass that everybody that makes and distributes these sorts of projects will wind up on some movie company's shitlist. Lawsuits are bad, bad things.

By selling these works, OCP in effect has endangered EVERYBODY ELSE. You wanna bitch about fairness, how is that fair? How does the fact that he's a talented editor give him the right to endanger and take advantage of everybody else?

OCP, if you're reading this, I love the work work you do (as I've said several times), but unless there's a whole lot of people telling lies, then you did something things you shouldn't have. I appreciate everything you've done for this community, and I wish you the best of luck in everything you do in the future, but keep your nose clean, 'kay?
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#259249
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/259249/action/topic#259249
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Adywan:

First off, I want to say that while I'm not a SW fan, I'm really impressed with what you're doing with this film. I really like the idea of improving issues with the film relating to the SFX limitations that existed when the film was made, as opposed to Lucas' interest in throwing as much random CGI crap as possible. Nice work.

And I would like to share a few observations I made, looking over this preview you've made available to us:

1) I really like the idea of the view through new binoculars, as the old ones bugged me a bit. However, the effect as it is now is kinda funky. The speed as which Luke scans over the surrounding area is way too fast, as everything sort of blurs by. Also, the movement far too smooth. It's like the binoculars are mounted on a tripod, and they're being rotated automatically. When we see Luke, he's turning at an inconsistent rate, rapidly at first, then slowing down, and he sort of bobs up and down. You've corrected a lot of issues where the motions of one shot don't correlate to another shot, so it wouldn't make sense to introduce an effect that CREATES this problem, ya know? I'd say either slow it way down, and make it more inconsistent (maybe taking advantage of existing footage as well, so that the features we see don't look so smooth and undetailed--it appears you created this effect yourself, and it sticks out), or throw out the effect altogether. I really like the idea, but if it ultimately feels like a video game shot, then toss it, as it'll jerk people out of the experience.

2) I do wanna say, I really like the torture droid. I especially like the detail that not only do we see the irregular quality of the blue electric arc, but you can see the flickering glow on the mechanical arm immediately behind it. I really like the subtlety there. My only thing with the shot has nothing to do with you--as it approaches, we see it wobbling around. Is there anything you can do about that? I really like the shot, but it weakens the menace of the thing if it wobbles and bounces around like that.

3) Mos Eisley

In that first shot of the speeder, where it's going up the hill, did you do the camera effect where it bounces up and down as the speeder comes into the shot? If so, very nice work.

Only thing I don't like about the shot are the little things running around on the right side (I assume those are Lucas' work). They just don't mesh into the scene well. An alternative would be to remove those, using a matte to fill in that part of the shot, and cut a bit off the beginning of that shot, so we only see that scene for a second before the speeder passes over, so we're not looking at this still shot for an overly long period of time, and we don't have the issue with these little rodent things looking odd in the shot. Just an idea.

4) Okay, I really, really love what you're doing with the Cantina. It's insane that in the only scene where you really get a sense of the variety of species that exist in SW, all of these individuals are so dead looking. So what you're doing is absolutely necessary. However, I feel that the effects you're using need to be refined or scaled back a bit, but in other areas, perhaps used a bit more. To go into more detail--

*In the first shot, we see the triangular headed alien looking around. It's sort of a dark shot, but it looks like you make his eyelids and eyebrows (for lack of a better word) moving around a bit. I like it, but in a way, the shot feels dead to me. It's his eyes. We have this close shot of his eyes, and you can tell they're just these gold things. I know it'd be a major pain in the ass, but could you give him animated eyes of some sort? It'd be a nightmare just to track them against the movement of his face, but it's sort of strange to have this opening shot where we have this extreme closeup of an alien, and he looks like a muppet. He needs eyes! Also, the wolf guy's glowing eyes in the background are odd. It's obvious that they're LEDs or something similar. If they could be dimmed down so it looks like they're reflecting light, as opposed to being lightbulbs, I think he'd be a cool looking, ominous character.

*Next shot, we see the four-eyed alien scratching his chin and proboscis. It'd be kinda cool to have maybe one of his lower eyes close just a bit, to give a sense of the pleasure of scratching the itch (like a dog narrowing his eyes when you scratch his head). He's got this super stiff face that doesn't loan itself to any sort of movement, but the eyes are a way of showing some life in his face.

*Next shot is of the two guys with their heads together, laughing or something. It seems like there's too much movement in their faces. The eyes of the guy on the left open and close and open and close, and his face feels rather elastic. Could the movement be scaled back a bit?

*I really dislike the shot of the lizard looking guy with the red hat. It sticks out like a sore thumb, because it's obvious he's CGI, and he's just sort of sitting there by itself. It feels like he's removed from the action. If it were me, I'd actually drop this shot.

*Little later on (around 6:02) there's a shot of the really tall alien with the big mouth talking to a small human on the right. The alien's face mouth moves a bit too much. Maybe it's just the bit where he smiles...it kinda throws off the speech movements of his mouth. Without that momentary smile, I think it'd look more natural. There's another quick shot of him, where we see his mouth moving later on, as he's turning away, that also feels odd. It just seems to me he has this sort of canine looking face, but his face is stiffer looking, crocodilian. Right now, his face feels like it's moving too much. Too elastic. If it could be toned down, I think it'd feel more natural.

*The shot with the elephant dude is weird. He's a '90s Lucas CGI add in, right? Again, I feel like the shot is out of place, and I'd lose it.

*I really like the way the slug blinks. It's kinda involved, but for some reason, I really like it. It's the sort of sleepy, slothful movement I'd expect.

*Right after Luke gets shoved, where we see the eyes of the red-eyed alien narrows--I really like that. Maybe the mouth is a little too animated, but I really like it.

*The Han-Greedo scene is genius. There's a lot of movement in Greedo's face, but it feels right. We've been teased with the strange movements of these aliens, and this feels like a payoff, where we see one of them really animated alive. I like it. I think you could lose the little forehead movement when he talks, though. His forehead is way too animated. He's got this big ear things, and they move nicely and really reinforce what he's saying (sort of like an Italian with their hands). So to have his forehead moving as well, while he's talking, feels like overkill. To have a forehead movement as a momentary, silent reaction (such as being surprised at something) would work, but when he's talking...eh, too much. Also, I noticed something interesting with the blinking. If you look at Han, he doesn't blink much during the scene--his shots are timed so that he's blinking just as his shots begin. So to have Greedo's blinking come smack in the middle of his shots, especially when he has such big obvious eyes is sort of going against that, plus he blinks in every shot, which again, might be overkill. Maybe look at the timing of this? Or maybe change it up, with a double-blink at one point (Han does this in this scene, at one point). Have his eyelids close most of the way, quickly open a bit, then a full blink. Some sort of interesting inflection. I do like the ear movement though. It's kinda reminiscent of the Andorians on Enterprise, where their antennae move around a bit, and reflect their mood. Interesting.

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Anyways, I do really understand that you've already done a hell of a lot of work on this film, and you've done a really nice job. I just think that operating on a more detailed and subtle level would yield some really fascinating and interesting stuff, if you played around with it a bit, especially with the aliens in the cantina. Try some different little details...maybe eyelids that blind sideways, rather than like human eyelids. Or rather than two eyelids that meet in the middle of the eye, a single lid that moves all the way across the eye. And really look at their faces, and think how they're faces should move. Some of them have really stiff faces, they shouldn't have much movement. Others have much softer looking, elastic faces. Look at how peoples' faces move when they talk, how they move when they're surprised, angry, etc, and translate that into these aliens. Maybe look at some really convincing CGI and puppet characters from various movies (E.T., Jurassic Park, Predator, whatever...), find the characters that really feel alive, and look at how their faces move, how the movements are adapted to their physical features.

I think taking the time to really map this stuff out could pay off in the other movies (such as the scenes in Jabba's Palace in Jedi, etc.

But even if you ignored every single damn thing I've said, I'll still be excited as hell to see how all this turns out. It looks fantastic. The above is simply the rantings of a detail whore of epic proportions.