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#188336
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The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/188336/action/topic#188336
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So'd you have a nerdgasm watching these new materials? Sounds like it'll at least be of some help to you. So where's that put the possible finish date at? Kinda sounds like you get to start over again. Typical. No hurry though.

And just a thought--anything that you cut out that is of any redeeming value, could you possibly include it as extras? Basically, anything that Williams did that you cut for any reason, and the good Calvert material...and it'd be cool if you could include the crazy temporary soundtracks as an alternative soundtrack. It'd be kinda entertaining to hear all of those movie themes popping up throughout the movie.

Anyways, this sounds like it's a pretty big step up. Congratulations.
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#187634
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The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/187634/action/topic#187634
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Originally posted by: ocpmovie
Anyway, I took a chance and emailed him - I geeked out completely because of growing up on his book - and he was very nice - he now teaches animation up in Washington and tries to teach his studios about the "golden age" of experimental, realistic, beautiful animation that was going on in London back in the 70s and 80s, as a result of the Williams studio, and studios including White's own. He definitely wanted copies of anything I've been able to dig up on video.

I've sent him a copy of my rough cut of the film, and other things. It's an honor.


Keep taking chances and e-mailing these various animators, especially the ones that go way back. Let them know what you're up to with William's flick. If you find addresses, send them copies of your finished edit. If they've been the in the business for a while, they'll quickly realize that you've found materials that are not available in the mainstream (i.e. the extra stuff of Calvert's that the one guy is sending you). Who knows what sort of opportunity might present itself to you if they're impressed by what you're doing, and your passion for it.

Plus it might make people realize that resurrecting this film is realistic.

BTW, are the Calvert rough cuts in the mail and on their way to you?
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#186630
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Daredevil - an alternative cut out there? (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/186630/action/topic#186630
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Yeah, it's the director's cut. I watched it a couple weeks ago. The Coolio murder case is kind of a weird subplot, but the extra 30 minutes--the movie was expanded from 103 minutes to 133 minutes--definitely improves the movie.

However, I think your memory deceives you. I don't think they did the sort of subtle editing that you believe you noticed, but rather, inserted several completely new scenes, and expanded existing ones.
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#186422
Topic
The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/186422/action/topic#186422
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So, would it be possible for you to make an xvid rip of the project as it is now, and upload it to Myspleen? I know you're probably going to be hacking it apart soon and improving it, but I'd love to see how far you were able to go, just using commercially available materials and the workprint, before getting your hands on this additional stuff.
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#185390
Topic
The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/185390/action/topic#185390
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So how did you get in touch with this guy? Is he connected to the contact info given to you by Yoda is Your Father, or a hookup through somebody else, or did he just drop out of the sky?

Anyways, this is pretty exciting, as not only will this result in the material that's never been released officially or via the workprint, but totally new crap, and all of it is being integrated into nearly-complete whole. Very nice.
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#185049
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The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/185049/action/topic#185049
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Definitely looking forward to seeing this. Just be sure to know your limitations, alright? I know this'll look fantastic, but just don't try to stretch things too far--if you stretch this stuff beyond it's limits, and try and throw too many tricks at it to make it work, you might come out with something that is less than the sum of its parts. But I have faith that you know how far to go with this. And know it'll kick ass.

Oh, and cough*before and after screenshots*cough.
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#183387
Topic
The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/183387/action/topic#183387
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Originally posted by: ocpmovieSo, the shot appears in my cut without the hands, since the hands were never finished, but the hands appear elsewhere ...

Aren't the hands present in the screenshot from the opening you posted?

http://orangecow.org/thief/thiefpic1.jpg

The reason I was concerned was because the scene looks a little rough with the chunk of the shot taken from the workprint sitting in the middle of the DVD material, and it's kind of a waste if the shot really isn't necessary...but of course, if I'm misinterpreting what I'm seeing here, well then...I'll just shut up about it.

You should hold questions on things like that until seeing my cut!


But patience just isn't one of my virtues!
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#183169
Topic
The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/183169/action/topic#183169
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A few posts ago I brought up your decision to replace the opening animation of the cloud-ball in the Miramax cut with the shot from the workprint, where it's held in (presumably) ZigZag's hands. It definitely seems as if you have some inside information on the details of this film. Just out of curiosity, how did you know that the opening shot in the Miramax cut wasn't what Williams himself settled on?
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#182389
Topic
The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/182389/action/topic#182389
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As much as I hate to say it, I believe Williams shares a large portion of the responsibility for what happened to his film. He himself couldn't settle upon any one storyline, and when you have people dumping money into your project, you must get your act together. He got funding, and he had a chance to get it done. And he didn't do it.

Miramax certainly didn't need to rape it like they did. But it's obvious that Williams wasn't an innocent in all of this.
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#182333
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NOW RELEASED: The Godfather: 1901-1980 Epic Edit
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/182333/action/topic#182333
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Edit: Damn you DFNYC--I spend all this time figuring this out, and you just slap out an answer and beat me by a minute. Heh. Anyways--

You really, really need to drop the PCM audio in favor of AC3, as PCM takes roughly 10 MB of space per minute, and there is absolutely no reason to be using PCM audio for a project like this. I don't know what the runtime of this is, but let's look at the runtimes of the three original films:

Godfather I: 175 minutes
Godfather II: 200 minutes
Godfather III: 170 minutes

Now, assuming this edit runs for roughly the amount of time the three films do, combined, that's 545 minutes. At 10 MB a minute, that's 5450 MB. 545 minutes of AC3 audio at 224 kilobits per second would take up about 915 MB of space, so dropping the PCM in favor of AC3 at 224 would yield a loss of 4535 MB--slightly more than one single layer DVD.

Edit: And having just noted that, according to DFNYC, that this is a mono track, you could cut that 224 figure down to 128 Mono, and that would drop another 450 MB off of the size.

You could drop one DVD from this collection, simply by converting the audio, without even touching the picture. So that takes you down from 5 DVDs to 4 right there. And you could probably afford to do a recompression of the MPEG video--it would take you a year and a day to work with 550 minutes of video, but with noise reduction and some other filters, you could cut this down to 3 DVDs without affecting the video much.

Edit: DFNYC feels that two dual-layer discs wouldn't cut it, let alone 3 single layers, as I allege, but seeing that as it stands now, you're at 5 SL discs, we're obviously not dealing with a bitrate nearly as high as that of the official DVD releases.