Yeah, I don’t think we need to be inconsistent and have a 50gb jedi disc just for those two features that aren’t very important.
A good recording or rip could also be preferable to a youtube download if it’s going to be included on the disc.
I really don’t understand what’s awkward about it.
The idea is that the more Disney/Lucasfilm discusses a new OOT release, the more they will have to publicly discuss George’s wishes regarding that mess, what is/isn’t canon. The ways in which they could promote the OOT are a bit of a diss to the later versions.
LOL, but we know that’s pretty silly… After handing Lucas 4 billion bucks and then him turning around and saying “I sold my children to the slavers” I don’t think they have much interest in his wishes anymore!
No, but some fans consider him to be a magical deity. Disney, JJ, and Kathleen have generally avoided discussing him and their lack of interest in his idea for the sequel trilogy. Kind of an “if you don’t have anything nice to say…” type of situation, I think.
Do you mean the actual file locker links are dead, or the link in fe-info? I’ve actually had some luck with the latter by visiting it in archive.org and going to previous versions before they crashed. November 22 2015 worked for a bunch of them, assuming that what you’re interested in was up by then and the files are still there.
I really don’t understand what’s awkward about it.
The idea is that the more Disney/Lucasfilm discusses a new OOT release, the more they will have to publicly discuss George’s wishes regarding that mess, what is/isn’t canon. The ways in which they could promote the OOT are a bit of a diss to the later versions.
I don’t really think this is the case, though, and there is a respectful line they can walk while still promoting the hell out of it (“See it again for the first time ever blah blah”). There are a few diehard Lucas fanboys who have been convinced that the originals need to remain buried, but it’s of no importance that the marketing cater to them if their SE versions are still for sale.
one can hope but the fact that it says “a new hope” and not “Star Wars” may give some indication…
It will never be advertised as simply “Star Wars” ever again, regardless of which version. Even if they use the original poster art they’ll still mention that it’s ANH.
On a somewhat related note, I wonder how a hypothetical official release would “avoid the awkwardness.”
The GOUT did it by releasing the movies individually on dvd for the first time and then going “oh, and they just happen to also include the unaltered versions.”
We’re already past that point on blu-ray (the steelbooks), so I’m thinking Lucasfilm/Disney/Fox will simply wait until it’s time to release I-VI on 4k ultra hd blu-ray (I’m sure they’d put out regular blu-ray versions as well). Then they can call them “ultimate editions” or something to that effect, and be all like “oh, and they just happen to also include the unaltered versions,” even though they know damn well it’s the only reason most people would buy it. Maybe if we’re lucky we can get the theatrical prequels and the '97 versions thrown in as well.
Interesting points. But, unlike the GOUT laserdisc transfers, I think the project would just be too damn expensive to ignore on the marketing side of things due to “awkwardness”.
Guys, about the red star destroyer, I think that the SD having a similar color as the planet surface is in fact correct and desirable. It’s getting illuminated BY the planet, so the color of Tatooine reflecting off the hull is not an error at all.
Well, but it’s not. No version looks like that and it’s not composited with that in mind (they’re separate elements, so that couldn’t have happened ‘naturally’).
The star destroyer is most likely red because it is from a faded Eastman print. It’s a nice idea, though. 😃
Anyway, I think some of the results so far have been close enough that rotoscoping really isn’t necessary. I agree that it wouldn’t exactly be “wrong” as it’s all from the original print (so long as no evidence of the rotoscoping is visible), but I think people have come up with some useable versions.
The star destroyer is looking good. Tatooine has a bit better color in DL’s.
Thanks Rob. It works in PowerDVD now. I’ll try burning it later.
And yep, ANH, I’ve confirmed that deleting the AACS folder is sufficient. It’s essentially a placeholder for real encryption if the disc were to be pressed. And various playback software packages are too dumb to do anything besides see the folder and flip out. If it were really encrypted, playback would not be possible just by deleting the folder, unless you were running AnyDVD or something. Similarly, just clicking on the m2ts wouldn’t get it to play in VLC, etc.
It’s season 41, episode 10 if that helps you find it.
Looks great. As is, I can’t skip (fast forward/rewind) during the intro segment if it’s put back into the disc structure and played via the menu. It crashes unless I go back to the start.
DJ, you can click Quote on Sherman’s post to see the image syntax.
Mark’s Down On Your Syntax said:
The CAM rips are just dead pixels.
I beg your pardon?
He is a troll. Please do not respond to him.
I don’t think any of that is necessary. If it can be tweaked a bit more, great. But if not, I think it’s good enough as is.
I might be mistaken, but I think it’s not real AACS encryption. Deleting the AACS folder might be sufficient to getting it to load. Haven’t tested it on this exact release, but it is the case for others built this way.
Damn, that’s impressive. Thanks for all the work, Darth Lucas, but it looks like this is the way to go!
Wonder if they got a cease and desist. Has been down for a very long time.
Is it the last frame of the shot? Could be the result of fixing a glue frame.
Guys, you are trashing Mike’s work on his own thread.
So it has come full circle to page 1? This thread was born with people shit-talking him.
Yep, the quality of that stuff is of no concern to me. Only matters for the main features.
I’ve used this one for a couple years: https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-External-Blu-ray-SE-506CB-RSBD/dp/B00JJGFRIQ/
edit: huh, looks like they have a few low ratings since I purchased. Not sure if they had a bad batch or if people just don’t know what they’re doing. I’ve recommended it to people here before, and they got it and liked it.
towne32 said:
but also confused that you would spend money on it instead of an affordable BD burner. I think I’m still confused about the last part, if you go beyond the trial.)You’d be way better of DL’ing and burning Harmy’s old AVCHD versions, which were built from the ground up for DVD9’s. Even though they’re now completely obsolete relative to the standards of the BD releases, they’d still look better than what any cheap program would produce after quickly mashing down these newer releases to fit on DVD…
Yes, that’s another great point. You could always remove the main feature and burn the extras to a second AVCHD. But, with no disrespect to njvc, the quality of the video in the extras is not the selling point of the set, and some of them are already quite compressed.
Also, I find BD-Rs to be more reliable than DL DVD-Rs. Fewer write fails for me with BD. DVD-R tech is known for using shitty dye (I believe they are not expected to have the lifespan of even CD-Rs). It’s worth considering saving up for a BD burner, which can be as cheap as $65-80 bucks. But compared to spending cash on software for DVD-R burning, I think it’s a no brainer.
Doesn’t BD Rebuilder do all that stuff for free?
(At first I was concerned that you were burning standard SD MPEG2 DVDs, but also impressed that someone made an app that converts the menus, but also confused that you would spend money on it instead of an affordable BD burner. I think I’m still confused about the last part, if you go beyond the trial.)
Lord Starfish said:
This is true… but then the original Emperor in that shot was an old woman with the eyes of a chimpanzee, dubbed over by someone who didn’t sound even remotely like Ian McDiarmid. The change could certainly have been executed better, but I think I prefer the new version to the old here (minus the afforementioned stupid dialogue change).Yeah. I mean, come on, defending the original Emperor hologram is just dumb. It makes you look like a fanatical purist and it almost undermines our entire argument for the originals being better as it gives Lucas apologists plenty of ammo to say we’re blinded by nostalgia goggles and would literally say anything different is worse, even if it is clearly better.
Or maybe you have an extremely negative response to someone’s opinion because you’re biased and have already decided which one you prefer? I get what you’re trying to say in principle, but there’s no strong objective defense about this change.
The original does indeed break the continuity with RoTJ to such a degree that a properly re-done Emperor could have been the most difficult SE change to argue against. I would eat my OOT-loving words if they nailed the hologram update. It ends up not being something we need to worry about, because every single aspect of the update was botched.
Seeing fat, rubber-face Ian instead of layer of white makeup Ian is nearly (but not quite) as reminiscent of the prequels as “Weesa free”, “NOOOO”, the dug thing, and creepy ghost Anakin. The performance and dialogue changes are also crap. It’s frustrating enough that they got the look and sound of the Emperor so wrong in RoTS. But oh well, it’s not as if it’s the main flaw of the film or would have saved it. But why would we want to be reminded of that in, arguably, the strongest Star Wars film ever produced?
As there are two rather imperfect choices, I’ll take the one that was a product of its time, not and not revisionist. It carries OOT era flaws, yes, but in exchange for just as many prequel era flaws.
It might have been this thread, as it was said here too.