towne32

Is your goal simply archival or does it need to play back? Just burn the files if it’s for archiving. You can always retrieve them later. But DVD-R is not the ideal format for long term archiving. I think you would be better off transferring it to a couple external hard drives. If it’s just one DVD, the space should be negligible as far as a modern hard drive goes.

Yeah, that’s around as well.

The theatrical version is the DVD/HDTV with the theatrical wipe re-instated from the blu-ray. Schorman said he would put out a version of it at some point.

If you don’t get any responses here, try asking in the “how to” section.

theMaestro said:

Hmmmm. Usually a video match alone is enough for an automatic takedown. And it takes some ridiculously distorting video filters to get around that (which that particular video doesn’t have). So I wonder how they were able to fight (and win) a takedown.

Someone recently uploaded the six films from blu-ray sources and they lasted a while. I think in most of them he ended up removing a few shots and segments of audio that were detected by contentID. It’s no way to watch a film, but I was quite surprised that it worked.

It’s not inconceivable that the contentID isn’t matching. Not a single part of a frame is actually pixel-for-pixel a match to anything they’ve got set for their content. Different sharpness, gate weave, color differences. It might have been enough.

Allegedly fighting a C&D about it is the part that baffles me.

Anyway, this was a nice reminder of how well the project turned out in the end. Great work, guys.

Does the youtube upload have print-sourced audio? Could be that, and the scans, don’t quite match the contentID enough to get an automatic match. It’ll take someone from Disney or Fox flagging it manually.

Edit: Oh, now I see what what quote from Dan whoever is saying. I’m not sure it makes sense or that I believe it, though. Anyway, a youtube content strike isn’t the same as a real CDO. If someone from youtube accepted the uploader’s rebuttal and left the video up, they probably didn’t do their job properly.

Shalashaska said:

I want to try my hand at fixing the problems with these caps. I’ve never done anything like this before, but no one else is doing it, so why the hell not?

I’d have to slow the frame rate down from 25 FPS to 23.976 FPS (or 24, which is preferable?), fix the RGB input range to 16-235, convert it from 1920x1088 to 1920x1080 and convert it from a .ts file to a BD25 (is that an ISO?).

Anyone know the best programs do to this? I want to retain as much quality as possible, preferably without any or at least very minimal compression.

Right. Well, some of these things are going to require re-encoding, so you don’t need to worry about “converting it” to BD25. You’re just going to want to output a high bitrate blu-ray compliant h/x264 video stream. That can be muxed to BD25 or mkv or whatever.

I have some thoughts on how to accomplish it, but others will probably have better ideas for more ideal, efficient, cheaper, easier, etc.

Seems to have been an issue with the way the streams were captured? I have seen it in other ts streams for TV shows. I’ve tried dropping them into multiAVCHD and the TNG era ones are indeed blu-ray compatible, though you’re right that the european standard framerate should be changed. Does the audio need a slight pitch re-adjustment or is it not adjusted in the first place? Also, the TNG era ones have an annoying Sky card before the paramount logo. Trimmed them off with Avidemux at key frames.

Could just be compression artifacts from the tv stream? Not sure.

You don’t mean TPM? The HDTV version of that is extremely grainy, and the blu-ray is heavily DNRed. AoTC was shot digitally, so I’m not sure there was a need for DNR. The picture quality is better on blu-ray, though.

Rots is very close but not quite identical. Not noticeable without direct comparison, though. So it is indeed interesting that they screwed the aotc color so badly.

The color in the pre-2011 versions is pretty much fine.

Knightmessenger said:

I’m curious then, which home video release of Phantom Menace is thought to have the best color timing? I never thought the dvd looked off to me.

I think the DVD is probably better for color, aside from a few Naboo shots that people say are too pink.

There are also shots that are a bit more cropped than the blu-ray. And it’s a very grainy transfer, but that’s probably not as noticeable unless you look at the HDTV version.

NeverarGreat said:

Wazzles said:

towne32 said:

Yeah, a couple shots in Jedi are still screwy as well. And the colors in the ANH duel are really inconsistent still.

That duel is at least watchable in the 2011 version.

You may change your mind if you were to go through it shot by shot. In a few shots, Ben’s saber is actually purple.

And Vader’s is orange in a few of the shots right around that.

It would be awesome if one of the many very talented cover art makers here could make a fresh set of BD covers for you.

TV’s Frink said:

😕

Sorry. I had to form some kind of joke out of the random quoting. I’m a fan, though.

wymjafett2112 said:

Dat_SW_Guy said:

Time to torture myself with some of Frink’s movies.

Is there a 2.5 version of Return of the Jedi despecialized

Yes, and it makes for great eyewash after Frink’s movies. 😉

Thanks. I’ve been doing a bit of research. So you don’t have a set top type box but just a computer media server running windows/linux/whatever?

Slightly off topic but interesting: Poita has had access to a low fade ESB print (to look at, but not scan), and mentioned in another thread that Hoth is indeed blue-ish. Not as blue as the blu-ray, but it’s an interesting comment for those out there who think it should be paper white.

MalàStrana said:

Thanks for the advise, I would eventually burn it on a bluray disc when I have the tools for. Meanwhile I use a kodi system which can basically read anything. You both confirm the intel I was looking for: MKVToolNix does not compress video files (except when asked for), so I can mux subs without any quality loss. Which is cool !

Hey, I’ve been looking into getting a Kodi system lately. Any recommendations? I’d much prefer to have things on a local harddrive as opposed to any kind of network streaming, so I’m thinking about the KDlinks A300.

Wazzles said:

Knightmessenger said:

Did the blu-ray actually try to fix the colors from 2004? Besides the minor lightsaber fixes, did they try to make Hoth less blue or colors not quite as oversaturated?

Yes. Only the Hoth blue, though.

I wasn’t aware that they’d changed that between 04 and 11. But yeah, the films in general have the exact same color timing as in 2004.

MalàStrana said:

… just now something I don’t get: aren’t mkvmerge and mkvtoolnix the exact same tools ?

I think mkvmerge is just a front end for mkvtoolnix. I just meant that I’ve never used the command line app, so if it has re-encoding options that aren’t in the GUI, I haven’t seen them.

It’s a pain going in the other direction, from MKV to m2ts for burning a blu-ray. You think you’ve got a file that’s small enough to fit on a disc, but it inflates as m2ts and goes above the limit for a disc.

M2ts files have more “overhead” space wasted than MKVs. I dont’ know if mkvtoolnix is capable of re-encoding (I only use the mkvmerge GUI), but I think it’s likely that you’re okay. Especially if the mux operation took seconds or minutes instead of hours.

Make sure you’ve got all your audio tracks, though.

Harry: My dad’s birthday is coming up. You’re welcome everyone, that should sort it all out.

JawsTDS said:

Pardon my ignorance, but can someone explain the significance of the changes to the Emperor scene in ESB?

I’ve watched the original and the '04 version – I just now noticed the “the young rebel who destroyed the Death Star” line, but I’m not really getting what the issue with the changes are. From what I gathered, Palpy mentioning that Luke is Anakin’s offspring works just as well as just saying “the son of Skywalker”, in the modern world. In 1980, the scene made sense as is – we didn’t know yet that Vader is Anakin.

Granted, for those who will never watch the prequels, this change ruins the big twist that everyone and their mother knows by now…

Can someone dumb it down?

I think people’s issue with it includes not just what you quoted, but Vader’s following line, “How is that possible?”. He has been hunting around for a kid with his own last name. Some defenders of the line will claim that it is a farce to fool Palpatine, but I don’t think that much more believable. Whether one likes it or not, this is where the difference is. In the original, they both know what they’re talking about without the viewer cluing in. In the new one, we’re supposed to be witnessing the moment where either Vader finds out, or Palpatine reveals that he has found out, and it’s a bit crap.

Shalashaska said:

towne32 said:

Is that just supposed to be overscan space?

That would make a whole lot of sense.

I’m assuming they were just maximizing the visible picture on older TV sets.